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Pagans Aren't Americans - Gingrich

Sunday June 7, 2009

Categories: Current Events
Newt  Gingrich, the thrice divorced defender of family values and Catholicism, warned "I am not a citizen of the world. I am a citizen of the United States because only in the United States does citizenship start with our creator."  Which would be news to our Founders as well as to the Constitution, that gives rather different requirements.

Apparently from Newt's perspective we Pagans are not Americans, for in his fatwa he warned Americans that they are surrounded by "Paganism."


Mike Huckabee, who had earlier explained the relationship between our constitution and his theology:   "I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view. . ."

That Pride and Power are Huckabee's real deities was made clear when he criticized President Barack Obama for saying in Cairo, Egypt, last Thursday that one nation shouldn't be exalted over another.

"The notion that we are just one of many among equals is nonsense," this Servant of Sauron said.

These examples of moral and intellectual vacuity were supported by convicted felon, http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/summpros.htm   Oliver North.

Three old white geezers giving their race and gender a bad name, speaking to a crowd that gives its religion a bad name.

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New Age Cowboy
June 9, 2009 3:31 PM

Gingrich and Republicans could just as well have a wheel they spin to determine who they're gonna pick on this week. It could be pagans, humanists, gays, minorities, unions, etc.
They could get an idol statue of Jesus to roll him out whenever they feel the need.
For me, the real Jesus would have been hanging out with, not condemning, 'pagans' and other minority groups.
I've felt for a long time that reasonable Christians should be condemning the condemners. No such luck.
I just stopped professing publicly to be Christian.

Cheryl
June 9, 2009 5:01 PM


DRH, I've been maintaining that the "religious right are neither" since the Reagan administration. I contend that the bumper stickers are quoting ME!

Which is okay, as it's an accurate phrase.

Thermal
June 9, 2009 6:19 PM

Astounding.

Even disregarding the fact that America was historically the first modern Nation to explicitly remove religion from its government, ("Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."), and that our founding fathers thought this so important that they made it the first sentence of the Bill of Rights, there is a bit of circular illogic in the Newt's statements.

GINGRICH: "I am not a citizen of the world. I am a citizen of the United States because only in the United States does citizenship start with our creator."

It sounds like he just said that, since American law clearly states that all us Pagans who were born here are citizens, whatever he regards as "our Creator" wants Pagans here.

As a Pagan with a lot of respect for the teachings of Jesus and little respect for the pseudochristian neofascists, I have a few questions for those who regard themselves as Christians.

If America is truly "Christian", how do we explain all those people living under bridges?

When a fat majority of our politicians profess "Christianity" as their preferred faith, how do we explain them giving stunning fortunes to the moneylenders while dismantling companies which employ American workers, sending more workers to live under bridges and more American jobs to foreign dictatorships?

How do we explain the dismantling of pensions, so old folks go hungry while rich folks get richer?

How do we explain merciless government which supports and aggrandizes people whose wealth and power clearly have become psychotic?

Is it Christian to abandon the ones who actually create our wealth, and the weak, the sick, the hungry, and the old, while asking no charity of those whose wealth has grown from absurdity to mental illness?

Seems to me these bigmouthed blowhards are really closet Pagans, and their God is Mammon.

Wish we could find out where Newt and his buddies hide their golden calves. Maybe we could sell them and pay off some of the national debt they saddled us with.

Thermal

Snoozepossum
June 11, 2009 12:50 PM
http://www.carolinagrove.org

I read this stuff, and my brain insists on a cartoon adaptation of Holy Grail . . .

(Peasant points at witch. "She turned me into a Newt!")

But somehow the next line never seems to come . . .

Snoozepossum
June 11, 2009 12:56 PM
http://www.carolinagrove.org

New Age Cowboy:

"I just stopped professing publicly to be Christian."

A fellow hedgewitch buddy of mine uses the phrase "Followers of Christ" to differentiate from the scarier brand; feel free to implement at will!

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