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Abandoning Islam in Iran

posted by Gus diZerega | 11:24am Friday July 3, 2009

The rapid appearance of books by atheists in the United States is a predictable result of the rise of intolerant religion.  Nothing turns people off to religion faster than self-righteous fanatics and power junkies intent on telling you how to live, and claiming to do it in God’s name.   

If Andrew Sullivan is right, it now appears that the same thing is happening in Iran.


Years ago I predicted that Iran might become the first stable democracy in the Arab/Persian part of the Islamic world, because they were getting a taste of democratic politics and a toxic dose of what happens when religion and politics mix too intimately.  I based my prediction on the rise of the Enlightenment in the West after decades of bloody religious war and state churches.

My prediction has not come true yet, but it’s looking better.



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New Age Cowboy

posted July 3, 2009 at 12:06 pm


I’m a believer that actually supports atheists. As the 20th Century Lutheran theologian, Paul Tillich, pointed out: doubt is an essential component of faith; otherwise you know something or you’re deluded. The two latter categories do not equal faith. Gods bless the atheists.



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Nick Manley

posted July 3, 2009 at 2:15 pm


We’re hoping for the same thing here, Gus! You arguably have more respect for religion than I do. Nonetheless, I strongly dislike one sided right-wing portrayals of “Muslim nations”. This is why I will never get a job at the Ayn Rand Institute.
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Hecate Demetersdatter

posted July 3, 2009 at 2:27 pm


Gus
From your keyboard to the Goddess’ monitor.



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Gwyddion9

posted July 3, 2009 at 9:47 pm


I agree. Conservative Christianity and the RR as definitely colored my opinion of Christianity. While I realize that not all Christians or their sects are the same, conservative Christians have really got me to the point of looking at them with distain.



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Kendall

posted July 4, 2009 at 2:32 pm


Modern hysterical atheism grows from hubris and hastens its own demise



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POvidi

posted July 5, 2009 at 9:35 pm


Sounds like Kendall is just what everyone else has been referring too. It’s so nice to see that fanatics can learn from others.



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Rombald

posted July 6, 2009 at 8:34 am


An important difference between Arabs and Iranians is that Iranians had a glorious civilisation before Islam, and Islam was initiall imposed upon them against their wishes. The Arabs, on the other hand, therefore had little before Islam, and it is in fact arguable that the Arabs as a people are a creation of Muhammad. Patriotism / ethnic pride therefore oppose Islam in the case of Iran, but support it in the case of the Arabs. I therefore suspect that, once secularisiation starts, Iran will rapidly become non-Islamic, but I find that more difficult to imagine in the case of the Arabs.



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Cassaundra

posted July 11, 2009 at 3:12 pm


Rombald,
What an interesting post! You share such important information. I look forward to hearing much more from you.



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