Democratic Forest Trusts (PDF)in Watson, Alan; Dean, Liese; Sproull, Janet, comps. 2006. Science and stewardship to protect and sustain wilderness values: Eighth World Wilderness Congress Symposium; 2005 September 30-October 6; Anchorage, AK.Democratic trusts with leadership elected by citizen-members promise to solve many of the problems afflicting both traditional government and corporate ownership of forestlands. This article explores these issues in some depth.Complexity and the Dream of Human Control of Eco-Systems (PDF)in Watson, Alan; Dean, Liese; Sproull, Janet, comps. 2006. Science and stewardship to protect and sustain wilderness values: Eighth World Wilderness Congress Symposium; 2005 September 30-October 6; Anchorage, AK.The title captures it. I then explore the kinds of institutions compatible with both nature and the modern world that are implied from this analysis.Rethinking the Obvious: Modernity and Living Respectfully With Nature (PDF)The Trumpeter: Journal of Ecosophy, Winter, 1997.Modernity is usually considered a wrong turn in terms of respect for and sustaining the environment. I argue the reality is more complex, for modernity has freed us from personal dependence on agriculture, ended the economic value of children, radically reduced the likelihood of large scale wat, and shifted much production to intellectual rather than material capital. This partially decouples society from nature, which gives us important opportunities as well as problems.Towards an Ecocentric Political Economy (PDF)The Trumpeter, Fall, 1996.This paper begins my effort at showing how liberal modernity can be harmonized with an ecocentric perspective on our relationship with the natural world. It is a corrective to much “free market environmental” literature that sacrifices Nature to money as well as to anti-liberal attacks by well-meaning but economically naïve environmentalists.Unexpected Harmonies: Self-Organization in Liberal Modernity and Ecology (PDF)The Trumpeter, Journal of Ecosophy, 10:1, Winter 1993This is my initial paper exploring how what I term ‘evolutionary liberal’ thought can be an important means by which society and nature can be brought into greater harmony. The other Trumpeter papers build on it.Deep Ecology and Liberalism: The Greener Implications of Evolutionary Liberalism (PDF)Review of Politics, Fall, 1996.Liberal thought and deep ecology are usually regarded as mutually exclusive. But the “evolutionary” tradition offers a way to integrate the two through commonalties in the work of David Hume, Michael Polanyi, Arne Naess, and Aldo Leopold, providing a stronger foundation for liberalism while strengthening the case for an ecocentric ethic.(Related subjects: Ecology)Saving Western Towns: A Jeffersonian Green Proposal (PDF)in Writers on the Range, Karl Hess and John Baden, eds., University Press of Colorado, 1998.Developmental pressures in the rural and small town West involve three groups: long term residents, new arrivals, and environmentalists. Today their interests often conflict. This conflict is in part the outcome of institutions which prevent harmonizing competing interests. The concept of developmental trusts, both for rural regions and for small communities offers a means whereby these interests can be harmonized for the benefit of all concerned.(Related subjects: Politics)Social Ecology, Deep Ecology, and Liberalism (PDF)Critical Review, 6: 2-3, 1992.Murray Bookchin is considered a leading radical environmental theorist. However, his analysis is incapable of leading humankind towards a more respectful and sustainable relationship with the natural world. Criticisms of Bookchin from both the deep ecology and evolutionary liberal perspective complement one another, pointing the way towards a better understanding of how modernity relates to the environment.The paper as a whole offers an early discussion of issues that are more clearly addressed in later papers, particularly Deep Ecology and Liberalism (1996) and the three Trumpeter articles in 1997, 1996, and 1993. However, there are other ideas in the article which have not been developed more thoroughly elsewhere.
Some interesting comments about my “Drawing Down the Moon”
piece in “12 Things…” have prompted me to offer a longer discussion, based mostly on
my personal experience.
Are the Gods in us or outside us? So much depends on what we mean by “us.” I became Wiccan after I encountered the
Goddess, and She was most definitely outside me, a separate personality. I was a guest at my first Sabbat, not
in a particularly open frame of mind (I was compulsively punctual and this was
an example of Pagan Standard Time at its worst) and was standing far from the
center of the action. Her arrival
came immediately after She was invoked.
Like flicking a light switch.
I encountered the Goddess that time when She was being drawn
down into the priestess. The
experience had every dimension of encountering Someone quite different from
myself: wiser, more loving, more powerful, more beautiful – and all to many
orders of magnitude. We had enough
in common that I could recognize those qualities as perfections of what I
carried as seeds or small shoots.
Much later the same being, or so She seems to me, made a
shorter but more personal contact when She was drawn down into a high priestess
in a Esbat. There was one other
time of strong contact and a few others not so strong, almost entirely
unexpected and sometimes separate from ritual of any sort. In none of them was She ‘in’ me in the
way She would be in a Priestess drawing down the moon.
When the God was drawn down on me,
my experience was of a being very different from me – imagine masculinity minus
any fears, insecurities, desires to control, etc., etc – that I was changed by
the encounter. My teacher in these
matters describes these experiences as a “tuning” where our vibrations,
so to speak, are drawn into greater harmony with the Gods – a bit by bit
process to be sure, but one that fits my experience.
Again, speaking from my
experience, the gods do not come equally strongly to everyone or to any one all
the time. They appear to have
their own agendas. They can appear
unexpectedly and fail to appear when expected. But almost always they appear in ritual space.
Last February I was on a panel at
Pantheacon. http://www.pantheacon.com/ We were asked to discuss the nature of
the Gods. One thing that a great
many of us agreed about – and no one challenged – was that an encounter with
deity was an encounter with something that seemed more real than we were or
this world was. Thos was not a
denigration on our part of either the world or ourselves but rather an
acknowledgement of the extraordinary qualities of deities.
This can only plausibly be a “Thou art Goddess Thou art God”
kind of experience from a monistic perspective – we contact what lies at our
deepest core – and while I happen to be a monist, using the same reasoning, you
are me and I am you. I think there
is a sense where that is true, importantly true – but there is an important
sense where it misses the point.
To live in this world I need to differentiate between you and me, and
similarly, I need to differentiate between myself and a God.
Other Traditions
My view is strengthened by the long existence of other Pagan
traditions centered on incorporating deities and spirits into humans during
ritual time.
I will never forget the first time I was a guest at a
Brazilian Umbanda drumming ceremony.
I sat in the back because I was unsure what was going on, and wanted
simply to watch. As the drumming
got stronger I found my body was twitching. “Energy releases” I thought, and tried to sit still. They got stronger, until the man in
charge, who was in trance with a Caboclo, a kind of Indian spirit, suddenly
stopped the drumming, and wordlessly motioned for me to come forward.
I got up and walked up to where he was, completely convinced
that I was considered disruptive and would be asked to leave. Instead, he
touched my forehead and the nape of my neck, and motioned for the drummers to
begin again. When they did, my
feet started dancing – but I was not involved. I had the impression that with great will I could probably
stop, but was too amazed and fascinated to do that. I went along with it, dancing alone in front of a crowd who
I scarcely knew. This was about as
out of character as it could be. I was an still am far too shy (as well as being a mediocre dancer) for that kinds thing.
The guy in charge knew what was likely to happen, I had
absolutely no idea. At that point
no one else had entered into possessory trance. No words were exchanged between us. I ended up working closely with him for
6 years, but that’s another story.
In the Brazilian traditions, and African Diasporic
traditions generally, different spirits are associated with all manner of
things. The same is true for
traditions in Asia, the Americas, and elsewhere. Some are Gods and Goddesses, some were human, some are
powers of nature, some seems mixes of these qualities. But while some of their behavior seems
clearly tailored for the tradition of which they are a part, the basic
phenomena encountered in trance do not seem to be simply parts of our inner
psyches.
I do not want to carry this discussion into too much depth
and sublety because we are discussing concepts which themselves have no settled
meaning. What is our inner psyche,
our inner self, consciousness, and so on.
But I experience these beings as quite independent of myself, and see
little experiential evidence that they are part of me, unless I assume my
psyche/self/spirit has firm boundaries, and that awareness cannot exist outside
of what we consider a physical body.
I think both of these assumptions are mistaken.



posted November 12, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I believe the Gods are in us in the form of a “Divine Spark” that is our life force. Imagine someone taking a drop of water from the Atlantic ocean and putting it into a flask. Yes it contains the water of that ocean. But it is not “The Atlantic Ocean” in that little flask. And when we die, our little spark – i.e., that little drop of water, goes back to its Source to move on to it’s next journey.
That’s why the Goddess can come to me even though She’s already part of me. It is the little spark within me that resonates and connects with Her to allow me to experience the encounter.
posted November 12, 2009 at 5:20 pm
And, yet, I still think that we speak the truth when we say: Thou art goddess/thou art god.
posted November 12, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Well Hecate, I do have my moments ;-D
posted November 12, 2009 at 9:50 pm
“Some think that the soul pervades the whole universe, whence perhaps came Thales’s view that everything is full of gods.”
Aristotle
posted November 13, 2009 at 10:42 am
I do not say that the gods are inside me or outside me. The gods ARE ME.
They are not separate beings.
When I say, “I am God,” or “I am Goddess,” I mean precisely that.
And that was why I commented in that other thread that I don’t see the point in “drawing down from outside that which is already within.”
But everyone has his own way of looking at things, too. And what works for me does not necessarily work for someone else. And probably the best thing we as pagans do is allow others the personal space in which to be whatever it is we are, and in our own manner, without interference or condemnation.
Biodh Se!
posted November 13, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Janus, whatever works for you is fine with me, please don’t take any of my comments as a condemnation of those who are of a different mindset.
I just can’t see *myself* as the Goddess without having Her graciously consent to being drawn down. I have far too many flaws and limitations to view myself as God/dess in all the fullness that it means to me.
But YMMV
posted November 13, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I think many Neopagans are monists. I’m not, however. I’ve usually experienced Deity as outside myself (but I also remember that some ancient deities started out as human, so by that measure any of us could ‘become’ a deity).
I was ‘ridden’ once, by Freyr. I don’t remember a lot about the experience because He pushed me out of the way, as it were, and took over. I understand Their power, and respect it greatly, but I don’t welcome that aspect of experience of Them particularly.
My usual experience of the Spirits (Gods, Ancestors, Spirits of the Land) is quite intense, and occasionally ecstatic. But They don’t ‘fill’ me so much as ‘surround’ me.
It’s possible that we’re describing similar experiences but from different points of view. I suspect that what we get out of experience is based on what we take in to it.
posted November 13, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Today’s post is why I read this blog. While Gus certainly likes writing about politics and it is his right to do that, I most enjoy the posts about paganism; his personal experiences and history of the current movement.
posted November 13, 2009 at 10:34 pm
I agree with Ant C. – this is why I read this blog and other Pagan blogs.
I’ve had a similar experience, and it’s led me to a similar conclusion. Ultimately, All is One, but I experience the Gods and Goddesses as separate beings, just as I experience other people as separate beings.
posted November 16, 2009 at 8:35 am
Perhaps it is fractal with self-similarity resulting in the archetypes/gods being experienced.
While I generally avoid talismans due to the tendency to make idols of them, the vestment of a form with sacredness is a tool for the psyche. I see ritual forms in this way.
My own experiences suggest that at the base is something deeply ancient, very powerful, unifying, infusing, and yet very alien to our normal states. When that breaks through it is breathtaking; being both wholly other and deeply intimate.
I think that fragrance and music reach very deeply and can invoke powerful states. Entheogens also have their uses; when treated with reverence as gateways into the realms of sacredness. But, to use them carelessly, carries with it certain risks. One should not enter a gateway without surrendering to the keeper the required toll.
posted November 17, 2009 at 7:24 am
I once ‘felt’ that the energy or essense of Inanna entered me while having wonderful sex with my Hubby, He and I was quite surprised by the visitation, and we both really enjoyed the experience. I felt ‘her’ to be quite a different energy than me, most definitely.