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Signs and War

posted by Gus diZerega | 7:06pm Friday December 11, 2009

Walking in the rain down to the autoteller to get some cash, I saw
Sebastopol’s regular demonstrators, one group against the latest war, the other
supporting our troops, standing on the corner where the cash machine
stood.  Not in the mood for
politics, when I noticed the bank was nearly empty I walked inside before I got
to them, preferring to cash my check there.  But as I walked back out to the corner, I looked at the
signs behind me.  The ones I
usually agreed with said “War is another form of terrorism” which seems pretty
accurate given the number of wedding parties and groups of civilians our drones
have shot up, while the other simply said “Support Our Troops.”

I mentioned I agreed with all the signs, which precipitated
a friendly conversation with the “Support Our Troops” sign carrier.  Turns out her son is serving over
there.  She was an open warm woman
who felt if we didn’t support them they should come home.  I told her I strongly supported their
well being, had friends with children over there, and wanted them to come home.  All true.  I gradually got them all talking, and with a cheer for all
the signs, continued on my way.

As I left I thought about how the militaristic politicians
that infest this country, who almost to a man never served their country in
uniform, have done such a thorough job of turning Americans against one another
even when at root they do not always disagree that profoundly.  Demonize the other side and it all
falls apart.  Just like with rank
and file conservative Christians and their ruthless leaders.  It’s very sad, a dreary thought on a wet and dreary day.



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Makarios

posted December 11, 2009 at 7:53 pm


It’s called a “false dichotomy,” Gus. There are only two possibilities. Either you support every aspect of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, or you aren’t supporting our troops. Either you approve of everything that President Bush does, or you hate America. Either you’re 100% for us or you’re 100% against us.
It’s one of the favorite rhetorical tricks that politicians use. If dissent is disloyalty, then dissenters can be ignored. Not only that, but they can, and should, be smeared, vilified, boycotted, fired, expelled, and even subjected to violence. Remember Valerie Plame—or the Dixie Chicks? You and I are old enough to remember the Selective Service System’s revocation of draft exemptions and deferments to punish outspoken critics of the Vietnam war.
So not only is dissent dismissed, but people hesitate to express dissent for fear of consequences. Which is exactly the result that the demagogues intend.



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Thistle

posted December 12, 2009 at 11:30 am


Gus, I have been part of a group standing on the corner every Monday for nearly 8 years now. Our signs say both: “End the War” and “Support the Troops: Bring Them Home” (and more — we have some very creative sign makers) There is no dichotomy between a desire to end the war and a desire to support the troops. The Lefties of my acquaintance understand that; the Righties, not so much.
Cheers from the Midwest Coast (Detroit)



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Sarenth

posted December 12, 2009 at 10:09 pm


I wish more people had the kind of sane interaction you did with both sides. Here’s to more understanding and peace fostered between people.



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Thomas

posted December 13, 2009 at 3:32 pm


Likewise, I support the well being of our soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines and I am opponent of the conflict in which they fight.
I have a friend who recently joined the Army, who is currently stationed in the middle east and, while I wish him nothing but safety and success and in the peaceful aspects of his mission, I do have to question his judgment. I’ve told him this, myself.
We’ve been in this conflict for years now and anyone who’s joined the armed forces, particularly the Army or Marines, in the last seven years must have done so knowing that it was substantially likely that they would be made a part of it.
I’m not suggesting that anyone to have enlisted since ’02 is a warmonger. Individuals’ motivations and the realities of the world are so much more complicated than that. It does make it, in rare and reflective moments, difficult to support the troops with as much vigor as I’d like.



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