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Back From the North

posted by Gus diZerega | 12:19pm Friday March 5, 2010

Back from wonderful Vancouver, British Columbia, my favorite
city.  I got there as the last
tourists visiting for the Olympics were departing,  parking was becoming available again, and life began returning to
normal.  I was there for non-Pagan
reasons – I am co-authoring a paper using emergent order theory  to explain why Vancouver is the kind of liveable city it is.  Two of the first serious thinkers about
emergent order were instrumental in the late-1960s reforms that set in motion the
changes that led to what Vancouver is today.  While one has passed on, the other asked me to co-author the paper project.  A rare honor.

The open thread that developed here on divination issues, once I shut my yap blog-wise, is wonderful.  So long
as folks keep posting to it, I’ll move the chance to keep the conversation
going up the queue from time to time, under a more specific heading.

Just before leaving for Vancouver I was asked to contribute
to a blog debate on Community, Exit, and Coercion  - a discussion mostly by libertarians and communitarians.  (I am neither, but have connections to and sympathies with both.)
The result has been interesting, and I give this link for anyone who wonders
where I am coming from as a political theorist. 

Since my mind was on completely secular issues while in
Vancouver, I was able to keep my end of that discussion going.  But I could not shift my mental gears
enough to say much of interest here, given the little time I had available to
me.  (It is hard to switch back and
forth from spiritual to secular issues, especially when totally immersed in discussing
and writing on the latter).



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Cheryl Hill

posted March 5, 2010 at 2:38 pm


Welcome back! Congratulations on the paper you’re co-authoring :)



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Hecate Demetersdatter

posted March 5, 2010 at 2:58 pm


Glad you’re back. It’s that lie that convinces us that there’s a difference between the secular and the sacred that we need to eradicate. It’s all real; it’s all metaphor; there’s always more.



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Gus diZerega

posted March 5, 2010 at 3:43 pm


In some ways I agree with you Hecate. There is no ultimate distinction. Spirit includes everything.
In other ways I think it’s a useful distinction.
My favorite approach is to say that the sacred includes the more than human context, the secular focuses on the human context. When we look at contexts beyond the purely human we begin to involve the sacred.
I think of politics as secular because first, it focuses on the human community, second, because when the sacred becomes an explicitly political concern it ‘s representation is likely to be controlled by power freaks – as we see with the Republican Party – and third, because the Sacred speaks to different people in different ways that are deeply personal,trying to enforce a spiritual insight simply because I think that is how Spirit spoke to me can tear a society apart and lead to murder.
I try and make my political arguments focus on reasons other than my being Pagan. Being Pagan helps give me the strength the stand my ground, and influences the positions I take, but I believe that my political reasons should address issues in ways that atheists and Christians, insofar as they are decent people, can accept and still remain atheists or Christians.



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Hecate Demetersdatter

posted March 5, 2010 at 4:27 pm


Being Pagan helps give me the strength the stand my ground, and influences the positions I take, but I believe that my political reasons should address issues in ways that atheists and Christians, insofar as they are decent people, can accept and still remain atheists or Christians.
Can I use that quote on my blog? I think that it’s both true and lovely.



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Gus diZerega

posted March 5, 2010 at 6:40 pm


Of course!
(blush)



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