Fixed and stubborn, eh? Haven’t we had enough of that over the last eight years

The real question is what will Hillary want in return for suspending her campaign

Good point, Roderick.

For what it’s worth, she announced plans to concede tonight. Good timing, as you noted, Lynn. JM has something to say about it too over at Raging Universe.

Chills, I tells ya!

Now I hear that she is not conceding after all, that those reports were erroneous!!! I can’t say that I am surprised. but what is going on? Is this some retrograde Mercury mischief

It appears very unlikely that Senator Clinton will give up at all with transiting Mars conjunct her natal Mars/Pluto, ruler of her Sun in Scorpio. The square of transiting Mars to her natal Venus and approaching a square to her natal Mercury charges that natal square to Mars/Pluto and Saturn in Leo. It is amazing that while transiting Mars approaches a conjunction to her natal Saturn, it will also conjunct Senator Obama’s natal Uranus in Leo. That’s a lot of sparks. Transiting Uranus in Pisces conjunct Senator Clinton’s Moon opposes Senator Obama’s natal Mars in Virgo. The interaction of these malefics in their charts is scary

You’re right Sandy, and all of this happens during Obama’s double Mars/Uranus whammy.

That Mars transit could energize her to take the high road, and I guess we’ll find out tonight

Hillary take the high road?

Not in this lifetime

Nice reading! Very enjoyable and clear. I’m not often a lover of prof. astrologer forecasts (being an old cynical astrologer me-self), but Lynn’s are cool.

Obama’s exact Uranus 7th/MC sqr (using latest data fm UAC) scares me. Sometimes Hillary acts like she thinks something is going to “happen”, so she can “step up to the plate.” I’m sure I’m just a paranoid demon.

I don’t see her being VP (tho I know she wants that), cause Obama is all about “new” change, and she ain’t new. Obama tends to stick to his guns about stuff like that…

In his speech Tues night, he made a big thing about her and a new health care thing…hmm

Thanks Cindy! But I have to say, if Clinton were VP she would do everything she could to undermine him and that wouldn’t be a healthy thing.

We did an experiment last night: We listened to hear how many times Senator Clinton said “I” or “Me” and then how many times Obama said it. Clinton used the first person at least 4-5 times as often as Obama.

To me, that says a lot

Interesting test! You’re right, it does tell a lot.

Yes, I also agree that Clinton is too strong-willed to be a VP. They are saying now, that she would have to expose her and Bill’s finances through the elaborate VP election process, and they are not interested in that…

I don’t understand why she says she is “suspending” her bid. It gives me the willies. It implies it will be “unsuspended” (is that a word?) at a later date. Weird

That’s the Scorpio refusal to admit defeat. Maybe she’s suspending it until 2012.

It’s sad to me, because I really liked Hillary at the beginning of all of this. I’m one of the OWW’s that they keep saying support her (Older White Women) but I felt her tactics were right out of the Karl Rove playbook and that offended me just as much as when they were used in the last election.

I listened again to the words Obama uses and they are so much more oriented towards what WE are going to do and how WE are going to make change, than a self-centered “I am the best person to ever run for office.” I’m so looking forward to this election

cindy soo: I don’t understand why she says she is “suspending” her bid. It gives me the willies. It implies it will be “unsuspended” (is that a word?) at a later date. Weird.

Hillary is hoping that something happens to Obama either physically or politically which will make him unable to be the Democratic nominee by the convention.

Maybe he will slip on a banana peel or one of those wacko gun nuts attendees of the NRA convention and heard Huckabee’s ‘joke’ will take care of Hillary’s ‘problem’.

Here’s something I learned on NPR, and correct me if I’m remembering wrong. When a candidate “suspends” his or her campaign it’s because there are still bills to be paid. I think it’s a legal and financial issue, and I don’t believe Hillary is using that term because she’s waiting for disaster to strike.

I first heard the term “suspended” as opposed to “ended” when Mitt Romney bowed out.

Having said that, I hope and pray that Obama does NOT choose Clinton for his running mate. Maybe it’s the Scorpio factor, but I don’t trust her and I get the vibe that she hides things. We’ve had almost 8 years of 12th house Sun GWB and that’s enough sneakery for this Democrat

cimbalok: o, i see, [about the "suspended" word] It’s still a weird word to use.

I don’t trust Hillary either. If I recall correctly, I think she’s got something “Neptunian” going on in her chart.

Lynn: I’m looking forward to this campaign too! Listening to Obama speak is a trip. He’s SERIOUS. He’s not just flim-flamming. I LOVE IT.

Exactly, Jill! This is precisely why I became so disenchanted with her after initially supporting her. I could not believe how incapable she was of admitting her faults, owning up and changing. Fixed…Stubborn! In the beginning I remember feeling exasperated that so many people were wanting her to apologize for the Iraq vote. I kept thinking, “Why can’t we move on? She blew it and now understands that.” But this turned out to be such a key element of her character: She cannot admit when she’s wrong. For Hillary that demonstrates her “strength” (again, so much like Bush) when in fact it is a serious weakness, is it not? I feel so glad the mask was pulled and we saw the real person behind it. It was not a pretty picture, but we needed to see it. Who knew

Somebody noted Mitt Romney also “suspended” his campaign.

There is talk that Hlllary wants Obama to pay her campaign bills, I don’t see how that would work or why he should do it. Particularly when most of the bills are to her!

Well, I can definitely tell this is a pro-Obama website. But regardless of what you think about Hillary, she is still person who has garnered at least half of the vote among Democrats. Also, no matter how terrible you believe Hillary is, it fact still remain that she will play a significant part on whether Obama gets elected or not. So, there

I don’t think Hillary is terrible, I just don’t like the way she has conducted her campaign.

The reason Hillary is ahead in the popular vote is because she won in Michigan. She won in Michigan because after agreeing with the other candidates NOT to run there, she left her name on the ballot.

There’s no doubt that it’s been a close race, but it’s not like 2000 where there was actual voter fraud. It was close, but she did not win and the prized superdelegates that she counted on to push her over the top recognized that she could NOT win in November, and moved to the Obama camp.

It’s not been fun, but we need to move on and be sure McCain doesn’t get in there for a third term of the Bush fiasco

John Edwards “suspended” too, and nobody seemed to mind.

Obama scares the pants off me. He’s an empty vessel onto which a lot of (especially) young people have projected their own hopes and dreams. The White House is no place for an amateur — lest a Cheney be the real power behind the scenes (Zbigniew Brzezinski is his foreign-policy guru).

Hillary owns the middle. And to many of her supporters, a clueless Obama would be worse for the country than McCain with a Dem congress to hold him in check.

If the traditionally Democratic middle won’t support Obama, what was the point of nominating someone who can’t win the election the Dems had to try hard to lose?

Mercury was indeed retrograde when Obama proclaimed himself the nominee. But the deal isn’t done till Denver. And Uranus opposing Obama’s Mars is indeed a dangerous transit. Uranus approaches sensitive points for both Hillary and McCain, but only reaches Obama’s Mars.

Obama’s last primary results were dismal. If he continues nosediving, the party will try to find a way to dump him. That’s why the superdelegates were created, to rescue the party from a situation like McGovern: By the convention, they knew they were going to lose by couldn’t undo the votes of February.

This could get very strange

If you see Obama as an empty vessel and clueless, Harry, you’re not looking hard enough into his record in the Illinois State Senate and the past two years in the US Senate

I wonder if there is any astrological indication that Hillary would attempt to divide or hurt her own party to spite Obama and Democrat voters? Is it possible she could be that vindictive

Hey! Guess what? Obama’s actual birth chart & time (7:24 pm) has been posted! YIPPEE!
Here’s the link:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/i…nvite/
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