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Bill Herbst and the Leo presidency

posted by Lynn Hayes | 5:20pm Wednesday December 3, 2008

by Lynn Hayes
Bill Herbst’s newsletter has a very interesting article today about the fact that the last three presidents have had a strong Leo component.  Bill Clinton is Leo Sun/Libra rising, George W Bush is Cancer Sun/Leo rising, and Obama is Leo Sun/Aquarius rising.

You can read the whole article here, but these are the points I found most fascinating:

Leo is the star of the zodiac—not “star” as in heavenly body, but “movie-star” as
in Hollywood-type celebrity and fame. Leo is the quintessential performer, in
essence an actor who creates a character, then performs that character in real
life. Leo is always and finally the hero or heroine of the drama, the star of his or
her own movie. Unlike numerous other signs, 

Leo loves the limelight and
blossoms at center-stage.
In astrological elements, water always finishes a phase of growth, whereas fire
always initiates a new growth process. So, the quest for personal security
reaches its apex in Cancer and is followed by Leo, which begins a new quest for
social security. In other words, Leo is personally secure, but socially insecure.
That paradox may seem to contradict much of the traditional astrological
literature about how Leos are confident to the point of bravado, but this is why
performing a role is so critical. Leo is unconcerned with private, inward identity.
Instead, Leo is completely obsessed with social image reflected in the eyes of
others. By creating a character to perform and writing himself the lead role in an
heroic script, Leo achieves the impression of social security for us, the audience.
He appears completely confident in who he is (or wants us to believe he is). This
goes far beyond the approach of “fake-it-til-you-make-it,” all the way to “fake-ituntil-
you-believe-it-and-forget-that-it-was-ever-fake….

Dubya sees himself in part as an anti-hero. The “character” Bush chose and scripted is an anti-intellectual, someone disdainful of pointy-headed professors and effete snobs. The immense pride Dubya takes in his intellectual inadequacies and verbal gaffes is almost perverse in its stubborn defiance. His snobbery is about wealth rather than intellect, especially family wealth. Bush is the Machiavellian Prince, but the role he performs for the public is the affable, folksy, dude rancher who clears brush and loves being a War President and Commander-in-Chief. For Bush, family and the inner circle of dutiful friends and oyal supporters are everything—the public be damned—and that’s where the Cancer archetype dominates the script for his movie.

By contrast, Bill Clinton, with his 11th-house Sun [and more importantly, people-pleasing Libra on the ascendant], would sell his soul to be liked or, better yet—loved) by everyone. God, how Clinton wanted to be loved as President!! And that urge got him into very hot water. With Bush, the opinions of anyone outside his personal circle didn’t matter. With Clinton, everyone was inside the circle, and all opinions mattered, at least when those opinions were about Bill himself.

Compared to Clinton and Bush, Barack Obama’s chart contains a broader distribution of sign archetypes, with less extremism in emphasis….A primary issue of the Leo-Aquarius axis is individuality versus collectivity—goodness for oneself weighed against the greater good for the group as a whole. A related issue is the evolution of egalitarian societies and governments emerging out of monarchies justified by “divine right of kings.” Much of the Enlightenment in the 17th-18th centuries pushed forward the politics of freedom and social equality, and the 19th and 20th centuries carried that struggle into the streets. Only baby steps have been taken thus far, however.

We can add the spiritual level to the sociopolitical and assert that Leo-Aquarius struggles to deal with the idea of “the cult of personality,” where one charismatic individual leads many followers who believe that person to be if not totally infallible, at least savior-like in the sense of a cosmic parent who will protect and do for us what we cannot seem to do alone. At the very least, people hope for inspiration from such individuals.

This is an interesting take on the Leo component and a brilliant integration of the Leo/Aquarius archetype. I would expect the royal sign of Leo to be present in the charts of Presidents; there needs to be a fairly strong ego identification to believe that you are The One who can lead the free world into the 21st century.  



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Neith

posted December 3, 2008 at 7:35 pm


It has been a real pleasure to find Bill Herbst’s articles showing up again. He is a thoughtful and perceptive astrologer especially in the area of mundane astrology.



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cimbalok

posted December 3, 2008 at 9:24 pm


What a great post! I read the entire thing and look forward to reading more of Bill’s articles. A million thanks for the link.



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Lynn Hayes

posted December 4, 2008 at 5:50 am


I agree, he is a great writer. Bill had a stroke last year, he has a stroke blog on his website. Without health insurance he has had a lot of medical costs and you can make a donation on his site. I’m glad to see he’s back at work!



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Char

posted December 4, 2008 at 11:42 am


The way Bill describes Bush sounds like he is repeating the lies that the Mainstream Media has been putting out there in an attempt to destroy the real persona of Bush. Bush is a very humble and spiritual man, with deep compassion for his fellow human beings. He is neither stupid or a snob. Because of Bill’s description here, I am inclined to not believe much of anything that he writes.



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Patty

posted December 5, 2008 at 2:19 pm


Bill Herbst is a brilliant…yet down to earth Astrologer.
I’m so happy to see him back in the game.
Being a deep Scorpio…Bill’s reading for me was most profound.



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Andrea

posted December 6, 2008 at 11:03 am


I’m a skeptic here. I’m a Leo, but everyone — including the friend who believes in astrology — laughs out loud when the description of Leo is read and agrees that I was born in the wrong month because the traits of the sign bear so little resemblance to me. I would also guess that I have very little in common with the three Presidents mentioned in the column. I do have Scorpio rising and a Capricorn moon, which is apparently enough to cause some differences.



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chiron

posted December 6, 2008 at 12:03 pm


Well. I believe that the circumstances of the Leo connections with the recent figures in the national political spotlight really relates to two other astrological elements. The first has been the passage of Pluto through Sagittarius from 1995 to this past month.
Trining the sign of Leo, Pluto enhanced the projections of Leo personalities on the national stage during that passage, solidifying Clinton’s presence on that stage and catapulting two other minor political players into prominence. Now that Pluto has ingressed into Capricorn it will be interesting to observe how the dynamic changes. The second element is of course how Leo creates sysnastric linkages to the US Sibly chart. Utilizing that chart Sagittarius is on the Ascendant and Leo trines creating a natural national affinity for fire sign interactive synastric linkages. Glad to see Bill writing again, but hope he avoids the ever more common trap of interweaving current personal political preferences into any mundane analysis. Too many astrologers have ventured too far afield and are out of order with universal law.



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Lynn Hayes

posted December 6, 2008 at 7:01 pm


I’m a skeptic here. I’m a Leo, but everyone — including the friend who believes in astrology — laughs out loud when the description of Leo is read and agrees that I was born in the wrong month because the traits of the sign bear so little resemblance to me
Hi Andrea, and welcome. Your experience is very common, because the Sun sign is just one part of the entirety of the birthchart. With Scorpio rising, your persona is more like that of a Scorpio than a Leo and this is very typical which is why Sun Sign astrology, as we call it, is so inaccurate. It doesn’t mean astrology is wrong, but this approach is very limited. I hope you’ll stick around and see what real astrology can do!



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