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Kris Allen and Adam Lambert: the New American Idols

posted by Lynn Hayes | 5:51am Thursday May 21, 2009

by Lynn Hayes

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Kris Allen sped ahead of the pack last night to take home the American Idol crown in a surprise upset over Adam Lambert, who had been expected to win.  Allen’s surprising victory echoed last year’s surprise win by David Cook (profiled by me in this earlier article)
Kris has an interesting astrological chart that should blow away a few concepts.  First of all, five planets are retrograde in his chart, a phenomenon that is relatively rare but which has traditionally been associated with bad luck and an inability to achieve one’s goals.  While it’s true that retrograde planets can make it more difficult to move forward in one’s life because we are always being pulled back into the past, a strong intention and focus can overcome any planetary difficulty in the birthchart. 
Kris has the Sun in Cancer, the sign of family ties and caring for others, and it opposes Neptune almost exactly.  Neptune/Sun aspects are often connected to an affinity for music and sometimes, depending on the rest of the chart, musical talent  (David Cook has a Sun/Neptune conjunction). When Neptune and the Sun combine there is also usually a strong spiritual component in the life.  
With the Sun in shy Cancer and a Neptune/Sun opposition which can make it difficult to forge a strong identity, we would not have expected Kris to be someone who seeks the limelight.  His Leo Moon inspires a craving for fame and recognition, and to be celebrated for his talents, but it is squared by Saturn which inhibits him from seeking this kind of recognition.  Saturn also opposes Venus, which enhances this sense of inhibition and shyness.  But according to the judges, it was just that low-key sensitivity that won him the American Idol crown. 
Evidently Kris only auditioned because his brother Daniel talked him into coming along with him, and Kris may never have gotten to the American Idol stage if it weren’t for Pluto.  Pluto is in a trine formation to the Sun in Kris’s birthchart which helps to keep him on a steady path of transformation in his life despite the retrograde planets and Saturn T-square system with the Moon and Venus.
Pluto is the planet of transformation, and transits of Pluto are often feared for their intensity and power to change our lives completely.  Pluto first began an opposition cycle to Kris’s Sun back in January of 2008, and the second hit of the cycle occurred in June, just before the auditions in July 2008.  By the time the results were announced in February of 2009, transiting Pluto was in a harmonious sextile formation to Pluto in his chart.  
The harmonious Pluto cycles bring opportunity to let go of the past and begin a completely new phase of our lives.  Harmonious cycles are usually pleasant but they don’t normally bring about huge events like winning American Idol, but a combination of a harmonious Pluto cycle with a challenging one like the opposition of Pluto to Kris’s Sun create a dynamic force of events.  
The victory by the soft-spoken Christian with conservative values over the more flamboyant 

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and probably gay glam-rocker have raised a few eyebrows.  Is this a symptom of the culture war going on as symbolized by the ongoing opposition of Saturn in the sky (conservative values) to Uranus (change and innovation)?  Or is this just a question of American Idol voters preferring someone who is more like them, a really nice guy from America’s heartland with simple values, to a more flamboyant artist with clearly exceptional talent but who is less approachable?  
Adam Lambert has the Sun in Aquarius, and it conjuncts Mercury which is often seen as a planetary combination which signifies a desire to take on many roles including a more androgynous personality.  Aquarius has an open mind and embraces that which is different and new, and where Kris has that Saturn T-square which contracts and creates a desire for conservatism, Adam has a square of Jupiter (expansion, confidence) to his Sun.  He is not afraid to be who he is and to have that sense of Self be as large as possible.
Adam’s chart is being torched right now by the triple conjunction of Jupiter (good fortune), Chiron (wounding and healing) and Neptune (confusion and creativity) in a harmonious aspect to both Neptune and Pluto in his natal chart.  This is a significant time for him, and while he may not have won the competition I suspect that this is just the beginning for his career.  


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Joe

posted May 21, 2009 at 7:49 am


Interestingly, the name Kris is gender-ambiguous whereas Adam is definitely a masculine name.



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Beth

posted May 21, 2009 at 10:04 am


Todd Lambert? Did you mean Adam Lambert?



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StarwriterLynn

posted May 21, 2009 at 10:37 am


Love this column Lynn! An AI addict for the whole season, I was extremely disappointed when Adam lost, but I agree, this is the beginning of his career.
Kris is easy listening, non-confrontative, kinda like the landscape painting you buy for above your couch.
Whereas Adam is in your face and I think, a much better singer –even when he’s ‘screaming’ he’s on-key musically, not flat or sharp.
All those trines and sextiles Adam has(natally) to the Jup-Nep-Chi conjunction made me believe he’d get the AI title. But Kris NEEDED the title, Adam is already a star.
Go to the AI website and look for Q&A about each contestant: Adam says to one query… What would people be surprised to learn about you? Adam: I’m obsessed with astrology. It’s be great to find his birthtime…anyone out there have it?



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Southeast0027

posted May 21, 2009 at 10:39 am


The wheel of the Zodiac Signs is self-explanatory.
Exceptional talent without embracing Home Values & Divine Laws, is useless.
Aquarius is the 11th Sign in the Zodiac. We can say that Adam Lambert skipped traditional 4th house of home values & traditional 10th house of Divine Laws by reaching the 11th house. Adam Lambart counted like 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11. Adam Lambaret has definitely challenged and missed traditional 4th house of home values and traditional 10 house of Divine Laws. Adam Lambert has missed so many lessons in life by jumping and skipping many heirarchies coming in his ways to teach some lessons to him. Adam Lambert is a desrving loser.
Kris Allen is the representative of Home Values, representing Tropic of Cancer [.5891-ENUJ-12]. Kris Allen really is a deserving winner for American Idol.



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Chiron

posted May 21, 2009 at 12:35 pm


What is that babble? Sounds homophobic to me. And that is exactly why Adam lost. Kris is a cute, very pleasing and talented guy, but not a match for Lambert, and even he admitted that. The soul defines its own truths. If anyone has the complete birth info, I’d love to do an analysis.



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Edna

posted May 21, 2009 at 12:40 pm


Thank you Chiron- I found that comment offensive, myself.



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Your Name

posted May 21, 2009 at 1:06 pm


Southeast0027 wrote:
“Kris Allen is the representative of Home Values, representing Tropic of Cancer [.5891-ENUJ-12]. Kris Allen really is a deserving winner for American Idol.”
Geez, maybe next year we will have Betty Crocker win…



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Sammi

posted May 21, 2009 at 1:39 pm


Although I think Adam is astonishing–like a blend of Elvis Presley, Mick Jagger, and Natasha Atlas–he reminds me of Reuben Stoddard (sp?) in that he started out astonishing and therefore his growth wasn’t as dramatic as Kris’s. Having spent 20 years in Arkansas, I’m delighted for Kris, as in One For The Home Team, and because he needed this recognition more than Adam, who’s going places anyway. And Kris’s humility, aw shucks, is totally lovable. But I recently left Arkansas again, Southeast0027, because it has too many people like yourself, for whom it’s not enough if I’ve found Jesus, it’s enough only if YOU PERSONALLY converted me. What an ego. Congrats to both Adam and Kris, and may the Holy Spirit come to Southeast 0027, because if you have not charity, you are, according to St Paul, nothing.



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StarwriterLynn

posted May 21, 2009 at 2:12 pm


Comment to Southeast 0027:
You CANNOT tell which House rules anything unless you have an accurate birth time. If you are born at sunrise, your Sun and Rising sign are the same and most likely in the 1st or 12th. Whereas, if you are born at 12 Noon, your Sun is in the 10th house.
To try and figure out who/what a person is by using only the Sun Sign is a joke.
And if I read between the lines, you sound like a homophobic-red state- Fox ‘Noise’ individual.



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Joseph

posted May 21, 2009 at 3:11 pm


>Southeast0027 wrote: Adam Lambaret has definitely challenged and missed traditional 4th house of home values and traditional 10 house of Divine Laws. Adam Lambert has missed so many lessons in life by jumping and skipping many heirarchies coming in his ways to teach some lessons to him. Adam Lambert is a desrving loser.
Aside from not being able to spell, (which house(s) did you skip?), “losing” American Idol does not necessarily presage ill-fortune. Nor does winning mean great fortune. In fact, most AI winners have not found great fame. In Adam’s case, “losing” actually will turn out to be a good thing.
Adam is an exceptional talent and entertainer. His stage presence is quite unique. Because he “lost”, he won’t be constrained by AI restrictive recording contracts and having his career managed by AI, something that will please his Aquarius nature. This is a mere stepping stone for him on the way to a great career. Congrats Adam.



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Mike

posted May 21, 2009 at 5:56 pm


You folks actually watch this stuff? Seems like a waste of time to me.



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June

posted May 21, 2009 at 6:09 pm


I was disappointed Adam didn’t win BUT I think he’ll have more freedom to do his own thing. He truly is a great preformer even though I didn’t care for all his songs. He’s got “IT” and hopefully he’s be around a long time. I just never saw what folks got from Kris.
And for the person who wonders do we really watch these things?????
You bet! It’s fun & creative. Give it a try.



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Edna

posted May 21, 2009 at 7:27 pm


Yes Mike, don’t knock it till you try it.



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Your Name

posted May 22, 2009 at 11:18 am


What pleases me most about this, Lynn, is the friendship the two guys and their families have formed over the course of the competition.
they are an example to us all. Chalk and cheese, yet they can find common ground, through love and friendship.
These are two sweet guys. Adam was really too good for Idol – and too far ahead in his styling for much of the USA. He’ll be a big, big star, and internationally, over the coming years.



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gbs

posted May 22, 2009 at 2:00 pm


Lynn, What do you see coming up astrologically for Adam in the next year? Just a quick scan of his transits on astro.com shows he has a trine from transiting Jupiter to his natal Pluto that starts around now and runs through the end of the year. So I’m assuming that Adam will gain in power and money through the rest of 2009, but I wondered if there was anything else that stood out to you.



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Lynn Hayes

posted May 22, 2009 at 9:42 pm


Mercury Retrograde – yes, I meant Adam. I used Adam all the way through the article, and messed up the title! which I corrected. :)
I don’t watch American Idol, but I’m always interested in the personalities. David Cook really fascinated me last year, what a sweet guy. These two are so different, that they really resonated with the Saturn/Uranus opposition for me.
gbs, you can’t really predict money and power with Jupiter- Jupiter opens the door but we always have to walk through it. There’s very little earth in Adam’s chart (we don’t know his time of birth which might give him an earthy ascendant, but I doubt it) except Venus in Capricorn which squares Jupiter. He has a lot of talent and won the critical acclaim, but I don’t know if he has the penchant for hard work that real stardom requires. I could be wrong, and he has a lot of Jupiter juju going on this year so the doors are definitely open.



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shawn

posted May 23, 2009 at 2:40 pm


I think that the natal Mars / Saturn conjunction in Adam’s chart indicates a lot of determination and staying power. He is in it for the long run. In studying horoscopes of sports champions, there is almost always a harmonious transit from Pluto to the personal planets, as has Kris right now. Thanks Lynn.



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Your Name

posted May 29, 2009 at 11:59 am


Adam Lambert from the American Idol was born in Indianapolis, IN. His family moved to San Diego, CA about a year later. He was asked this on the Regis and Kelly television show on the 27th and I taped it for reference.



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