Beyond Blue

Reader Response: The Emotional Affair

Monday March 26, 2007

Categories: Marriage
Thanks to reader SeekingSolace 1971, who wrote the following on the message board for one of my guilt posts: I really struggled with a situation not too long ago. I didn't have a full-blown affair, it was more like a...
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Kathy
March 26, 2007 6:02 PM
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What about the wife? Have you given any consideration as to what you and her husband may have done to her (and the rest of the family)? You complain about your feelings....how about hers? It took me four years to come to a place where I could forgive my husband and the other woman for all the lies and the incredible sense of betrayal. You are an intelligent adult and are therefore 50% responsible for what happened. There is a wonderful quote from Niles Elliot Goldstein that has helped me get through this. Perhaps it will help you, also. "When we come to understand that everything in our world, including its darker aspects, derives from God, we begin to realize that much of what we perceive as "bad" is, from the divine perspective, simply another piece of the sacred whole. Those experiences in our lives that up close seem so uncomfortable, anarchic, and disorienting are, from a distance, actually essential components of a beautiful and harmonious creation. That which appears as darkness to us may very well be the beacon to our redemption." Excerpted from the book God at the Edge. Best wishes to you. You are in my prayers.

RichK
March 26, 2007 8:12 PM
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I realize that it is probably mostly women that are reading here, but I'd like to add a thought from the male perspective. I've benefited from the help this blog has offered regarding depression and how to live with it day to day. From time to time, however, there have been little asides about men & sex that have bothered me. In previous columns I recall that the writer has had (to my mind) a strange view of needing to "put out" for her husband so that he wouldn't cheat on/leave her. The other day there's complaints about being somehow being victimized by a troubled teenage boy wanting a relationship with the writer (supposedly a grown 40-somthing woman). Today there's this man who's feeding lines to get her into bed and when that fails he's moving on to the next woman without a thought. Now perhaps everyone will regard my perspective as being highly subjective, but does anyone else find this a little warped? I don't know these men being referred to, but I must confess that those men that I do know (and especially myself) are not looking for their marriages to thrive by making their wives feel they must keep "putting out" or else. And if this engineer woman was really feeling a connection with this man, why is it so easy to assume that the man didn't likewise feel the same way? No doubt there will always be those who regard men as cold-hearted monsters driven only by lust but to me this is a stupid stereotype to be perpetuating.

PharmaGirl
March 26, 2007 10:31 PM
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Who knew engineers had emotional lives?

LightJesusMaryLover
March 27, 2007 2:05 PM
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Therese, I didn't know where else to post this, so here goes: There is, in the Washington, D.C. metro area (I know you live in gorgeous Annapolis, which isn't too far away), a neuropharmacologist who prescribes psychotropic meds based on a patient's EEG, which he has done at his office. I've recently started going to him and can see some improvement with the OCD I've had for over forty years (after no help at all with 16 years of meds prescribed by regular psychiatrists). His website is: http://www.michaelandersonmd.net If you have any more questions about it, or just want to talk with another person of faith battling mental illness (I'm also being treated for depression), please e-mail me at the address I provided. Take care, and Life & Light in Jesus' Name!

noneed4greed
March 27, 2007 4:20 PM
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Maybe i have no authority on this subject,as i am not a therapeutist. But i have found that most connections in life to be married,and get started to what you dreamed of,never is all in a person you really wanted. As everyone has their own mind as to the one they want. And by the time you may find such a person,it is always too early or too late. There are many reasons why you did not end up with a closer mate. Most of which was not your fault. But we only have one short life to live. So we try to make the best of it. Many of us end up in divorce. Sometimes more then once. Then one day we may find such a person that you both relate to,and feel as one. The world we live in is at it's best to make us feel alive,the way it should have been. But age,wrong timing,or guilt gets in our way once more. There is no answere here on earth,unless you make it happen.

Charley
March 28, 2007 8:36 PM
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Why is everyone so sure that "he" is using "her?" Isn't she an equal partner in this? Wasn't she using him just as much? Sex wasn't happening, so you can hardly say he was trying to put another notch on his belt. Or that she was trying to put one in hers. Someone needs to come up with a name for this syndrome where such innocent women get to enjoy blaming men for eveything. I think it is called "Life." It astounds me how whenever a man ever fools around (physically, or as in this case, emotionally)it is because he is a bastard. And if a woman ever fools around, it is also because the man is such a bastard. In fact, both men are presumed to be bastards - her husband and her lover. My heart goes out to all the poor, innocent, blameless women in this world who are constantly being "used" by men. Which, as the women tell it, consists of every living female on this earth. Time to grow up, Wendy.

Jill Massie
March 28, 2007 9:02 PM
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I work with and talk with many men. I have no feelings other than friendship for them. I believe it is possible to have a close male or female friend without intimate overtones.

Sadie
March 28, 2007 9:02 PM
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I did not know where to ask this question... So here it goes- I recently broke it off with a man I was dating for 1 1/2. He only came to visit me twice a month on the weekends. The entire time my close friends swore that he was cheating on me. I always remained faithful dispite the underlying clues of infidelity. I have not spoken to him in 2 months but I think about him every day. He has informed me that he has completely moved on.. How do I get him off my mind?

Darlene
March 28, 2007 9:38 PM
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I too am in a relationship w/ a married man an I knew he was married an he to said he wanted to get out of a marriage . I am sorry I did because all I have heard is because of work he can't come sown here from canada.STUPID me can't get it ion my head.In all my life My husbaned cheeted on me ,and then the next man physical abuse,I divorced because og emotional part wh husbnd . all a circle Darlene

tina
March 28, 2007 9:54 PM
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i so feel this way i once had a friend that was a family member of my husband and everyone thinks that something more happened that what really happened. I have asked for forgiveness and it seems like still to this day that no one belives me. I feel that I have lost my husband because he says it keeps coming back to him now granted it happened over 2 years ago and nothing really happened except i hide a realasionship from everyone that his cousin was seeing one of my real good friends and neither one wanted any one to know about. Then when people found out my friend and his cousin even stated that things happen that never did and i will live with this the rest of my life but i love my husband and don't want to lose him. If anyone could give me some advice it would be great you can email me at kidsrus_2007@yahoo.com i would really be thankful

A.C.
March 28, 2007 10:30 PM
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All fanticies are a function of our thoughts, and thoughts preceed most (if not all) actions. Recognizing thoughts which are distructive (i.e. brings pain, stress, or discomfort) is the first step in finding peace. Then replace that (distructive)thought with a constructive thought (i.e. gratitude for some other person, place or thing in your life), or, "pray for the S.O.B's happiness, serenity, and well being. Easy to do? - No, in fact it is particularly difficult in the begining, but, it does get easier each time you do it, and it is extremely effective. Bonus, it does not cause or sustain guilt. Peace is found in our own mind, not given to us by another person.

Annie
March 28, 2007 10:48 PM
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YOu know, I am ending a relations of the same sorts. Even though, it seems from time to time I still think of him a lot. My emotional relations is with someone of the cloth. I have come to the conclusion that I except the part I have in it. And I am and want to work on it to make things right.. I love my husband and I love him too. But I am making a big mistake because I made the choice to honor my spouse( who is not emotionally there for me.) This is tragic because it stems for childhood emotinal baggage. That, by being with my spouse that has made the suppression come out in our relationship. It drove me to seek companionship some where else. Especially.. it being someone of the cloth. Beside going and praying about it, I thought that he had the answer that maybe God could work with him to give me an answer to my problem. Because Intimacy was how I would work out my frustrations. it was a beautiful thing with my spouse but when he couldn't provide it any more i seeked it else where. But I see that it is a farce. He told me right out of his mouth. "That he was just a man like any other man." But being blind and nieve I couldn't see it. I was raised sheltered, very sheltered. Most of my life going to church from age 8. So now I am rehabilitating myself the best way I know how. But for the lady in the same situation, get help. Talk to someone about it if you really want to get out of it. Wether it is with a good friend who can keep a secret or professionally.

Pam
March 28, 2007 11:04 PM
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I know exactly how this feels as I have been in this position. Believe me an emotional affair is wonderful except it will damage the friendship eventually. There had been no physical contact as we were both aware of those ramifications and the very real possibility that the next step could very well be sex. We gaurded ourselves against this in various ways one or the other would be strong at all times. We love each other so much now that our friendship suffered. It was a mutual decline in communication as it was becoming apparant that we were very close to destroying all of our lives.
We are still friends but we do not have contact as before. WE both love and respect his wife and would never do anything on purpose to harm her or their family.
No lines were crossed but the situation was not healthy for none of the parties involved.
I do agree that men and women can work in a close relationship and be friends and flirt and not take it to level we did. I have so many male friends who are just male friends and nothing else. I believe I will always love this man and he will always love me but we will not allow our feelings to rule our lives.
I was hurt by a emotional affair which was taken to the next level, my husband of 15 years was honest with me and wanted to explore that relationship. I was not emotionaly able to handle the pain that came with that situation. I for one would not wish that type of pain on anyone even the one who had the affair with my husband and eventually married him. You see I was not able to stay married to him while he lived with another woman then returned to me later when he had found himself. I still today love this man he is the father of my children and I suppose I will always love him. But I have to face myself in the mirror everyday and I must face judgement for my mistakes and no one elses. He has since passed away and the love I had buried for my husband resufaced causing me a great deal of depression it lasted for almost a year. I am so much better now and I learned such valuable lessens in life. Ladies Men are not the enemy, They are wonderful complex creatures who need our understanding and our love. But we must choose wisely our course in this life. If you hurt another by overstepping your boundries I assure you it will come back to slap you in the face so to speak. It may take years but it will come back to you. It always does. Love Life, Love Yourself, Love others as you love yourself and keep the faith. We do not know what tommorow holds but we know what we expect from ourselves and when it is all said and done you and you alone are really all you ever have possess or control.

Ann
March 28, 2007 11:17 PM
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I have been married twice. And, divorced twice. Both of the men, I am sure, loved me in their own way. But, Neither marriage, as it has turned out, was with the right man.I worked hard on both marriages, but it wasn't enough.There were things definitely missing. To start with there wasn't any spark, no pidder, padder of the heart. I thought both times the love would just happen, and grow as time went by.That did not happen, either time. Four years ago, I started a so- called, friendship with, I thought at the time, a wonderful man. In some ways he still is. This man was also married. He told me that right away. He also said, they mightbe getting divorced.And, he wasn't sure he loved her anymore. We saw each other, but not what you would call on a regular basis. The man works 7 days a week. Yes, he actually does.After a short time, he moved in with one of his brothers, and his brothers wife, and family.Again, he actually did. Our relationship advanced. About two and half years ago, he and his wife got a legal separation.I was not the cause of it. I see him as much as is possible. But, they still have not finalized the divorce. He has been telling me for over three years he loves me. Actions to me, are worth more than words.I am in counseling, because I do get depressed, over this. I love this man from my heart. After hanging in there for four years, do I just give up, and move on or what?

Peggy
March 28, 2007 11:27 PM
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I too had an affair last year. After being married to a man for 15 years and him being drunk for the last four of them, I made up my mind I was going to leave him and start over with my children. It was so much easier to say it than to do it. I found someone else in the summer of last year that new my situation "a friend", and we became close. We ended up having a relationship for three months. Then, the week before Christmas, he didn't want anything to do with me anymore. I was devastated. I had already filed for divorce. I didn't want to be alone. The same day all this went down, my husband told me he would quit drinking and we could get back together. He knew about the other man. I was hurting anyway, and decided to give my marriage another try. So far, we are still together. He still drinks a little, (not like before), and I have not seen, heard, called, or e-mailed the other "man" since that day. Nothing. I still think of him often, and think about the way he was so nice to me when my husband wasn't there for me or my children. I too have to face myself in the mirror and I feel so guilty. My husband says he forgives me. I don't know about that. I guess I have to learn to forgive myself first. I am like the other person. I feel so horrible about having any feelings for him in the first place. I guess it takes time. Time and patience.

cindy
March 29, 2007 12:44 AM
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I am in the middle of getting divorced and am also "having an affair". The only thing is, I feel more like I am cheating on my boyfriend when i still have to come home and be in the house w/my soon to be ex husband, who was never there for me emotionally either. He isn't a bad man, he just wasn't capable of intimacy and that is extremely painful to live like that. My current boyfriend is also my soulmate as others have mentioned, and it is unfortunate that we have had to meet under these circumstances, but we love each other so deeply, and plan on being together and getting married in the near future, as soon as i am divorced. I am not making excuses for my behavior, which also started out as friends and developed over time into a romantic relationship, but i do not think there are always right and wrong answers here. ?You have to do what makes you happy and if a marriage is unhealthy and you found love elsewhere i am not one to judge. As long as you are clear headed and cognizant of what it is you are doing and one hundred percent certain that it is the right thing for you. As for the way others will look at it, i have been the pariah here in town and it is difficult to deal with. But let me quickly add the "other man's" perspective; my bf is under a huge amount of distress over this, as he loves me and obviously as anyone who truly loves another would feel, he doesn't want to have to share. It kills him every time i have to leave, and we together are just looking forward to the day we can just be "normal", as normal as we can be!!

alley
March 29, 2007 2:04 AM
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Up until the time I married my husband, I had many men friends. I had maybe three serious boyfriends prior, and a couple of men with whom I was close emotionally but didn't date (and they were not married.) The question I had to pose to myself--before marriage and during--is this: Is this a relationship I would be comfortable discussing/revealing to my husband? If the answer is no, it is probably clandestine, or potentially so, and I should not be involved. Believe me, it is tempting to want the affection of many people, emotionally and otherwise. But i am grateful to remember that my husband is my greatest love and nothing should come between that.

Robbie
March 29, 2007 2:26 AM
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I think that all who have loved have had a person on the side to connect with. I am not saying that everyone is cheating, its just that you need a good person to give you insight on what your partner might be thinking. I have a close male friend that helps me see what I might have missed with my boyfriend. I might be lost without my friend but I am not cheating on my boyfriend because I seek another man for input. Thats just me. Oh and for Richk I agree I think we women play damsel in disstress too much.

beth
March 29, 2007 3:40 AM
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I had an emotional affair that lasted a year. I miss our communication so very much. He, very simply, was my best friend. We have not spoken in almost two months, and while it is getting easier, some days it is almost unbearable.
We had a much stronger connection that I experienced with either of my husbands. He often referred to it as our "oneness" and proof that we very simply are meant to be together, even though neither of us could understand or even appreciate the timing since he was still married.
We decided that we were getting dangerously close to doing something "stupid" and destroying lives. We had been trying to pull away from each other. He and his wife had a huge fight; he was afraid that she would make him leave. The very next day he advises that he has been convicted, and that we absolutely must return to just being friends, even though he is deeply in love with me, and that he does not know if he can support his wife as he should without my supporting him (severe depression -- threatened suicide a few days prior to this).
We live in a very small town; someone saw us talking to each other for an extended period of time at the post office. Rumors began. He confessed to an affair of the heart, after pledging his love repeatedly. After promising to never confess, never give my identity if it came to a confession, he not only confessed but called me, put me on speaker phone with her in the room, to advise me that we could not have any further contact as he is going to focus on his marriage. He then asked me to please respect his wishes on this matter.
This infuriated me, as late last year, I asked that we return to being just friends, as I had seen the two of them together, and it almost killed me. He made me feel guilty, that I was not taking his needs into consideration, this involves both of us, we should both be in agreement. I relented, but we slowed down in regards to the romantic overtures.
I have apologized to his wife, and we correspond occassionaly via e-mail. Of course, there are times when I think that she is trying to deliberately hurt me through this correspondence, but after the pain that I caused her, I suppose I have it coming.
One thing that I learned from this is that there if forgiveness, and that I can go on, although initially I absolutely did not have any desire to do so. His wife has shared that she has forgiven me, and that the two of them have fallen in love all over again. I am struggling to not continue imagining our lives one day in the future, with us being together in every sense at some point in time. She needs him more than I do. Had we not corrupted that friendship, we could still communicate directly (there are times that I think that I hear him talking to me).

Suzanne
March 29, 2007 4:47 AM
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"Imagination!" What an awesome word, Beth. I am a twice-widowed 59-year-old-woman, and in my life, I have had several male friends whom I have considered "soul mates." However, the main soul mate was my last, late husband. He was 19 years older than me, but our marriage lived out in our heads - we "lived" our imaginations! We were both very spiritual, but, though the Biblical statement is, "Love your neighbor as yourself," he could never love HIMSELF. He lost a leg due to an aborted suicide attempt, and during our 6 years together, attempted it several times. You ask - how could he give me love? Because I REALLY loved him; I gave him unconditional love that seeped through every cell of his body. He died while I held his hand at 5AM in the morning in the hospital. I miss him far more than I ever thought I could miss anyone. During my "long" life, I have imagined many scenarios with other men - men who were platonic friends, and some who "crossed the line." My husband divorced his wife for me. He knew I felt like "the other woman." And he made an "honest woman" out of me. We were married just 3 months, but lived together 6 years. He fulfilled every "fantasy" of a man I could devise; other men pale in his shadow. I met a man two months after he died who I started an intimate relationship with (neither one of my husbands could make me climax; this guy did). But - he took me for $25,000 because I was so vulnerable and gullible after my husband's death. I have seen him off and on for 3 years; but I haven't seen him since last January. He was only a physical release for me - there was no real love involved. So - what am I trying to tell you here? Sometimes what we imagine a man is going to be is just that - a wish-fulfillment. We can't make it real all the time; sometimes it's as elusive as a dream. But I say, if you love someone - really - love someone, GO FOR IT. Life is really WAY too short to deny true, honest feelings. God does not want us to deny ourselves, but he also doesn't want us to do anything to hurt ourselves. Conscience (the still, small voice of God), is the only real way to determine if a relationship is going to work or not. Don't hold onto a will-o-the-wisp, hoping it will turn into something solid. But - don't deny your real feelings; that leads to depression. Much love and blessings on all.

Brenda
March 29, 2007 6:28 AM
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I would like to address the issue of how society treats a couple who had an affair. The man I had an affair with had two other incidents during his married life. Those who were not aware of it prior to our affair, found out when our affair became public. I had never strayed before, however, the church punished me in my membership in its committees and continued to let him serve as an officer. Is this fair? Comments please!!!

HASH(0xd0d8320)
March 29, 2007 6:40 AM
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It is hard to imagine crossing a line, or having more than an emotional affair... but I did just that after much persuasion from him. Ironically I came upon this blog/list of comments this evening. I ended it, as I could never quite let go of the fact that there were other people invovled, such as a wife and children. I think of him, and struggle to decipher what he really felt, or didn't feel. The bottom line, wait for something you can call your own vs. something that simply belongs to another.

shea k
March 29, 2007 4:20 PM
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Part of all these above thoughts are my own at any given time. Why? Because we are all the same in different spheres of life and our own realities. We are all spiritual beings having an earthly experience. The only reality is in our minds and hearts we call Love or the breath of life. When guilt invades, it is a sign to change our thoughts in some way to reach a higher plane of awareness in a situation...like road maps that give direction but are not the destination our emotions tell us how to alter the course of our physical existence...follow them in love and acceptance, releasing ego's hold on selfish goals and miraculously much comfort wraps around the pain, depression , uncertainty like a warm blanket to soothe and heal distress. Nurture your inner self in asking and accepting the Holy Spirit of Creation to soothe our nature and bring us back to the perfection only God knows for us. Love to all...I am there in understanding from my own experiences with ALL of you ...again and again and again!

Maryanne
March 29, 2007 4:48 PM
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I honestly think the whole thing is silly! Emotional Cheeting? Pahleze! Maybe its because I have children and realize that every single person brings something differant to the table, that I know for a fact where some emotional sharring with one is not something you can share with another. So should I feel guilty if I tell my co workers something that I didn't think to tell my husband, no. I think most people these days place too much in the spouse. They are supposed to be everything to you yet how can they when they are only human? Maybe I just have a big hart and realize that you can love many (and we are so not talking about cheeting here) but my spouse is the person who I chose to grow old with. I would tell my co workers about the sexually rude guy at the department store before I would tell my husband because my husband would be upset about it. I have formed bonds with men and women and know that you just like who you like! Sometimes it can't be helped regardless of your best efforts. And yet if you form an emotion bond with a samesex coworker you don't feel guilt? Seems weird to me.

MarywithanM
March 29, 2007 7:53 PM
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I'd like to add a "puhleeze" to the list. Make a decision and move on. She probably wouldn't be feeling quite so tortured if she had just slept with him. All this hand wringing and angst seems a complete overreaction (unless this woman is actually a 13 year old girl, in which case I can understand the emotion). I've known lots of women who just want to live with drama and blame it on other people, instead of just making a decision and living with it. Enjoy your life for a change; Get on with your life for a change.

in_the_dumps
March 29, 2007 9:18 PM
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Brenda, The Bible states that punishment is for God. No one in your church has the right to do that to you or anyone.
Going to church is supposed to bring you comfort in times of need, not more stress. All those who felt they had the right to make you suffer are committing a sin. If I were you I would look the pastor in the eye and remind him of this.
In case you in any way bought into what was said and/or done, remember: IF, what you did was wrong, it was a sin of the heart and should only have been between your spouse and God. All those who felt the right to punish you, decided they were gods.

Brenda
March 29, 2007 9:39 PM
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in_the_dumps, Thanks for your thoughts. My husband, mother, psychologist and friends believe the same as you. They won't have anything to do with the people who are shutting me out and "playing God". I hear these people recite prayers to forgive others, but their actions do likewise. Thanks for your understanding. I'm a good person and want to contribute to my church and society. Brenda

G
March 29, 2007 11:04 PM
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Getting emotionally attached is not a difficult thing to do. It's always easy being the one doing the criticizing. We all have our weaknesses.

in_the_dumps
March 30, 2007 10:43 PM
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Brenda Hang in there. I'm not a 'church shopper' but if I were being treated badly and the church officials condoned it. I would feel it was time to move on. The person who has intentionally caused me more pain then I have ever felt in my life goes to church every Sunday and meetings during the week. My crime was falling in love with her baby, who I cared for her whole second year. The baby she never wanted. With out warning she took her back. Because the baby is so attached to me, she wants her to have no contact. While I fully support her caring for her own child, there are humane ways of separating two people who love each other, her way is not it. Her reason for taking her child? She didn't like that the baby loved me. Her excuse for her behavior? God, it is what He wanted her to do. I'm so glad she and I do not worship the same god. My God is caring and all forgiving, but He doesn't tell me what to do, He expects me to do the right thing. He knows we make mistakes, it is a part of learning. She uses her god as an excuse to do harm, then lays it at his feet and claims to be forgiven, without ever accepting any responsibility. I don't know her god and I hope I never do. He who never makes a mistake, never grows. God knows what is in your heart, He wants you to be well and He supports your efforts to do the right thing. Don't let others stand in your way.

EJ
March 31, 2007 8:22 PM
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I'm not sure this is where I should post this since its taken from the view of the person on the opposite end of the spectrum. However currently I am on the other side. My wife is having an emotional affair with another man that she works with. There is not much I can do at this point since she lives over 36 hours away on the east coast and I currently am working in Colorado. Our careers went 2 separate directions when I separated from the Navy so I could be with my family, however I could not find work in the area even though I searched continually for over 6 months. A job showed itself in Colorado. And after much discussion we agreed it would be for the best since she was transferring to Tennessee a few months later and then I would try to get transferred there after I had my foot in the door with national company. Several things happened and she began to tell me about a friend who was helping her finish some work around the house at first I thought nothing of it. My wife is a proverbial Tom boy even now she repairs jet engines for the Navy and is around mostly men all day. So her having friends who are men is a casualty of her job and personality. However She came to visit me and there was something wrong. i was still working while she was here, our affections were brief and not for us but just to please me. And when our Cell phone bill showed up I had even more questions. She had spent 6 hours talking on the phone with this friend. And when I questioned her (I should have calmed down first) she jumped to divorce. Her command even noticed that there might be something going on. and even placed a no contact order on the both of them. If it was bad enough for her command to notice, the neighbors notice and its affecting her to the point where she is making irrational requests for divorce when we thought our relationship was going well, where do I go from here?

Brenda
April 1, 2007 5:48 AM
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I'm sorry in-the-dumps. I hope you will find a baby to adopt and love without a mother around the corner. So many children need the love you have to share. Brenda

MARILYN
April 20, 2007 5:47 AM
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BETH...I TOO WENT THE SAME THING WITH MY MALE BEST FRIEND AND WE NEVER SLEPT TOGETHER, BUT THERE WAS FEELINGS AND WE BOTH HAD OTHER COMMITTMENTS LIKE MY HUSBAND AND HIS GIRLFRIEND, AND LIKE YOU WE BOTH WENT THRU THE FIGHTING WITH THE SPOUSES OVER OUR FRIENDSHIP WITH EACH OTHER. IT TOOK ME OVER 2 1/2 YEARS TO TRY TO REPAIR MY MARRIAGE BECAUSE OF MY FRIENDSHIP WITH HIM AND I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING ITS SO HARD TO HAVE TO TURN MY BACK ON MY FRIEND, ESPECIALLY WHEN HE REALLY NEEDS MY HELP, BUT IF I DONT, I WILL HAVE NO MARRIAGE. MY HUSBAND IS MY SOULMATE AND MY LIFE AND I WOULDNT HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY. IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO REALIZE THAT FAMILY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN A TOXIC FRIENDSHIP. ALSO YOU SAID YOU FEEL SORRY FOR CAUSING ALL THAT PAIN TO HIS WIFE...YOU DIDNT DO IT ALL BY YOURSELF DID YOU? THINK ABOUT IT. GIVE ME A SHOUT SOMETIME...I CAN USE A SHOULDER TO CRY ON SOMETIME THAT KNOWS WHAT I WENT THRU AND WHO KNOWS MAYBE I CAN HELP YOU.

tattwo
April 24, 2007 5:00 AM
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Question? What if the roles was reversed and it was a man that was having an emotional abuse, would we have sympathy and empathy for him? I see a lot of double standards going on. I have a lot of guy friends and I don't cross the line with them at all. I'm human so thoughts do run through my mind but I just live them as fantasies.
In order to avoid situations like this, remove yourself from the situation. I know she and her partner work together. How about working from home? Not to mention what about self-control??? I've cheated before with someone I thought was my soulmate. HA! We seek what we lacking from our mates in other people. Our mates me have 75% of what we need/or want. So we go looking for the other 25%. When we find that 25%, we think that we finally met someone that truly meet our needs. Therefore, we jump ship. As time goes on we start to see that 25% is all we can get from that person because thats all they can and want to offer us. LOL!!!
My point? Well no one is perfect. I think people in general have a distorted view of soul mates. I don't want someone that can finish my sentences or laugh on cue etc. If I'm lacking in some area, than he'll make up for and vice versa. Thats called a bond. A union. Basically I got your back and you got mine. This seems so unattainable because the pseudo-soul mates concept have warped what relationships are supposed to be like. I know I may get bashed for my comment. Oh well. So be it. For everyone who said that their mates are emotional unavailable to you, what steps are being taking on your part to bridge the communication gap? Better yet, I'm pretty sure that prior to your marriage you saw signs of emotional unavailablity. Therefore its was a STRONG possibility that some or all of your emotional needs won't be met. Hmmm characteric flaws is what make up a person. So your mate has been like that since day one.

Kyros
April 24, 2007 2:50 PM
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tattwo So what you are saying is that if you made a mistake and overlooked flaws before you married someone, tough luck, you're stuck?
I have to agree with those who say its okay, after working on your relationship , to move on...but you need to end one relationship before moving on to the next. There seems to be an assumption here that most spouses are innocent and trying as hard as they can....not always the case.
Brenda, since you are referring to a church I assume these are Christians doing this...not very Christian like behavior, is it?....I'd just walk up to the pastor and say "in regard to how you have treated me...what do you think Jesus would say to you about it? If you want to apologize I'll be at Joe's church down the street." Then forgive 'em if you can, if for no other reason than it will do you a lot of good.
EJ...I'm sorry that you are going through this. The kindest thing you can do for yourself and for her is to just let her go, kindly and quietly. Holding on to somone who does not want to be there (and she still may care for you deeply, just not the way she needs to in order to be your wife) will bring nothing but pain for everyone. Fighting about it isn't going make her love you more.
Judge not folks...it tends to come back on ya.

HASH(0xd0e1aa0)
April 25, 2007 5:51 PM
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Look within yourself. The answers you need for yourself are already there. What do these extrarelationships say about missing pieces of yourself that you need to provide to you. Jerome

brett504
April 26, 2007 5:17 PM
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I have met plenty of men I would love to date. And thinking they were single well guess what I found out through some geat friends that these men were married. I have another man who I think a great deal of, I would love to see our friendship grow, I keep praying to the lord about it. But date him, well no, to me it would ruin every thing I have with him. So, if you cannot date a person, and you like them why not just be friends.

Rosemarie Zack
April 27, 2007 9:27 AM
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Amazing, that I witnessed this very thing of emotional infidelity with my fianc of 4 years, but only recognized it until it was too late. He is a Sociopath; pure textbook definition yet the tragedy of it all is that he does not recognize his faults. Bobby would tell me that it s normal to write (to one of my good friends) and state, Let s get to know each other better how about getting together between the hours of 1:30 and 2:30 no sex just touching But the amazing thing is, she participated in a three long year relationship of sex talk and titillation with him.
Then of course finding his love letters to a girl that he has been intimately associating with for the entire length of time we were respectfully engaged. Discovering letters with words written, How is my sweet Lover? or My sweet baby? You see, we never even called one another by our first names it was always, My sweet lover, or my sweet baby. I was beyond crushed when he was exchanging those intimate words with yet another woman. He regrets nothing and created extreme turmoil in my life, but now proceeds to the next victim. You see, I loved him with all my heart even when I found other women s telephone numbers in his washed pant pockets. He would tell me, It s just a game he plays, until they say yes. I should have left him then, but I was co-dependent in love with him. Perhaps, I was sick as well accepting this lewd behavior.
My heart is mostly traumatized by an honest belief that he did love me, yet he did not the truth of the matter was exposed too late. He tried to make me believe that he only loved me, while he was innocently flirting. There was no love, only the unconditional love which I had given to him. Even today, trying to forgive him without judgment; a conscious effort I try to possess every waking moment. In the end, I thought I was going insane he would even deliberately tell me that I was whacked.
The end result of all of this, extreme loss of life; my heart is still imbedded with his deception but all it was to my ex was a game of lust.

Marlene Emmett
August 14, 2007 12:26 AM

I have a really close friend who's I can talk to almost anything about~
He's coming into town for a visit~ He moved to Arizonia last year,
he had been a *New Yorker but hated the Winters as they kept on getting
progressively colder* I told him that he was nuts for leaving~ I'm
also mad *cause he'd taken away my coping mechanism~I'll explain.
My husband has ADHD~it's like living in a house with a 16 year old
teen who has the attention span/patience of a 6 year old!!!!
I'm sometimes very close to screaming from what I have to go through~
A person who has ADHD will ask the same questions that they asked
five to twenty minutes ago~and they don't remember asking the question
in the first place! Brad is/was my sounding board,cooking partner,
politicial allay~ we also share a love for anything Egyptian,Roman or
English,love the same movies,baseball,fishing~and good wine!
Can't tell you how many wonderful dinners were shared over a good
bottle of wine,good food and really great talks.Our talks can get
really "very intellectual,arguementative~they can also be danger filled
as we've known each other since high school. He could "Blackmail me
back to 1968 if I'm not careful~it's something we laugh over!"
I would call the relationship that we have a "Emotional Exchange of
the Mind~and not of one of the heart. We do *love each other~but my
heart belongs to someone who is close to both of us~and it's not my
husband. It's someone who "stole my heart back in school~he's very
very dear to me" This person came into my life over 34 years ago*
My husband knows about him~ but he says that "he doesn't care"~in my
book, my husband because of his ADHD can't really show emotion~ the
first time I ever saw him cry was when we lost our much beloved 21 year
old Persian cat named Krystal~ We both had lost relatives that were
close to us~but he never shed a tear,not one~but when the cat passed
the man cried buckets!!!!

Christina M.
August 17, 2007 1:22 AM

Emotional cheating is what broke up my on again/off again relationship with an ex boyfriend. I agree that this can be just as damaging as an emotional/physical relationship with someone! The two of them insisted there was nothi9ng physical there but when you spend all your time with someone to the point where your neglectful to your present spouse
(ie-ignore your partner/showering all the other person with all your affection/attention etc.)-to me it's the same as cheating. Being friends is one thing but there's a line you don't cross and if that line is crossed in this way, I say your both just wasting your time-THERE'S NO POINT in continuing!

Bea
August 24, 2007 1:48 AM

This isn't a comment, but I've been having a hard time, since I found out my husband called my daughter-in-law and asked her if she would serve him drinks topless, he says he is sorry and that he loves me. We have been seperated for a couple of months, but I think he really crossed the line. DOES ANYONE have anything to say that will help me to know how to handle this, it has been very painful and my husband thinks just because he asked me to forgive him I should fall right into his arms.

Made It Through
August 28, 2007 10:41 PM

This siutation is so familiar to me because I had an emotional affair with a very good friend.It all started when he expressed his interest in me, which blew my mind. He and his wife are very good friends to me and my husband. His attention came at a time when I was and still lack intimacy and love in my marriage. My husband became very ill, and almost died and my friend was very supportive in many ways.My children didn't have a positive relationship with their father and my friend fathered them in every way during my husband's illness. We connected on a deep, intimate level like we have never connected with any one else. We both acknowledged that this emotional affair was wrong and we both prayed for help from God. The prayer was heartfelt and sincere, but even our deep relationship with God and seeking His help couldn't keep us apart. We wrote poems to each other, had initimate lunches, and shared our dreams and hopes. What was really crazy was that my hudband and his wife would have made a good couple. They are both very reserved, quiet people and we are both gregarious, love new adventures, and love to explore other parts of the world. For a time, my husband went to a rehab facility and it was as if my friend stepped in and took care of me and my children as if he were my husband.I really love his wife and I would never do anything to hurt her, but we needed some type of intervention in order not to go any futher with our desires.This was a situation I thought I would never be in, but I've now learned to never say never, even if you are saved and spirit filled. We fell in love,but knew that we could not go any further with it because too many people would be hurt. God is so merciful and knew that things were really in a tenuous stage and He allowed Katrina to ravage New Orleans and that brought the separation we needed.It is now two years post Katrina on tomorrow and I've only seen him one time. During that encounter, he still expressed his love for me and I for him, but we are forever grateful that we no longer reside in the same state. God will always provide you with a way of escape,if we truly want it and are willing to walk thru the door away from the situation. When I returned home, I repented for the unholy conversation and the re-awakening of those feelings.I have been fought by my emotions and the lack of intimacy and sex in my marriage, but I'm committed to live as God would want me to and not allow anything ungodly to happen.Because of my husband's disability, I have lived a celibate life for the last five years and I don't intend on changing that. I have committed my ways to the things of God and I will not turn back.

Frank
August 29, 2007 2:06 AM

I met a very sweet younger woman at my place of work may years ago. The connection was immediate. I was married and 36 years old. She was single and 24. We started having lunch together. Soon, it was everyday and phone calls late at night while I was at the office. She filled a void in my life that my wife could never understand. She was compassionate, intelligent and most of all just so pleasant all of the time. I spent two years entangled emotionally with her but never crossed the line physically. I could never do that to my wife.
My friend eventually moved to California and the friendship has endured over 20 years. We speak occassionally and every few years or so she comes to New York to visit and we have lunch. I consider her a very dear friend that I love specifically for that reason. Till this day, never physical, both of us are single knowing sex would ruin the relationship. Ironically, the friendship outlasted my marriage of 23 years.

arshelyn
August 31, 2007 3:35 AM

it is sad to belong to someone else when the right one cmes along" i caught this from the song. evry one of us can commit mistakes. once, twice is enough is acceptable, but beyond its againts by the law of god and in the community. however, its not bad to be in loved,as long as in the right person with no other obligation in life. the next time you fall inlove, try to ask yourself, if is he the one for you, before yoy commit yourself unto him. you should learnd by your own mistakes, before you do something. A relationship with out knowing whats gonna happend next is waiting time. You better stop dreaming for nothing..

Made It Through
August 31, 2007 9:14 PM

Hi Frank,
I think it is admirable that you have maintained your position and given in to the call of the flesh. It is quite amazing how your friendship outlasted your marriage. I'm psotitive that me and my friend will be friends forever because of our deep connection and our vow tonever go any farther with it. I'm sure that you find great comfort in being able to talk with someone that understands what you say as well as what you don't say. I find that kind of connection awesome. I'm still struggling with how my friend knows me so much better than my spouse of over 20 years. This man can feel when something is wrong and my husband can be in the same house and miss it.
How do you explain that? I can start a sente4nce and this mna can finish it. My husband really has no idea of who I really am and looks at me as only the house maker, mother, teacher, now a student working on another advanced degree, car pool mom, grocery buyer, and transportation to the doctor person. After all of these years, he still doesn't know the vivacious,adventureous,poetry writing, music playing,longing to be sexually conquered, funny loving woman he's married to. It takes continual prayer to stay focused.

GraemeLangley
September 3, 2007 8:12 PM

Three years back I fell head over heels for a woman I worked with.
I was married at the time with a young son.At that time l left my wife
of 7 years.The marriage had no love from the start.
l had found love with this new partner so l thought.Six months into it she freaked out and felt pressured and smothered and called it quits.
l was devastated.According to others we seemed like the perfect couple.
She had not been in a relationship for a few years and struggled a little bit to be in one.
The break up was not pretty.Now I still think about her constantly and wonder what might have been, I feel we were both robbed in not having a better chance together.
To this day I'm hurting on this and cannot move on..

Any suggestions??

Hanginginthere
September 17, 2007 6:15 PM

I am a female whose husband has been having an affair over the past couple of years. I tend to not have the time of day for anyone who leads a double life, cheats on their partner, lies to them and carries on with someone other than their wife or husband. I find it repulsive, to say the least. If there are problems in the marriage that can't or won't be worked out; they need to be out in the open about them and then there's at least a choice, but to pretend to be working all the time, or travelling due to work, or attending social functions for work and carrying on with a co-worker, manipulating the entire scenario to suit their own selfish needs, is just the epitomy of WRONG. To place blame on their partner for anything, even to say it takes two to have a good marriage; it takes two to have a bad marriage. That's not necessarily true, here. I had no clue, for never in a billion years would I have thought for a second that my husband would've or could've cheated on me... EVER...!!! For one, he too had been very sick for a very long time. Over a period of 5 years I took care of him as he withdrew from his normal self. Just about the time he'd met his required time limit having no signs of illness, when I thought I'd see the man I used to know return healthy, everything went crazy. There had been no intimacy in our relationship for 17 years. He'd lost interest, his libido. He was impotent. When drugs came out years later to overcome this problem, he wasn't interested in it. He began to drink more and more, his job became very stressful and the alcohol problems progressed. He became someone I didn't even know. If anyone had a reason to cheat on anyone it surely wasn't him. There are things in relationships called boundaries and they weren't set up at the time. There are trust issues to be respected. They weren't. There are things we find in people we love from the get go, morals, scruples, integrity. Over time these qualities vanished, communication broke down, our marriage became one of emotional abuse on his part. He criticized everything I did and demeaned me as a person, unlike the person I loved all this time. So now I'm thinking, with all these people out there feeling all this guilt for doing nothing, it's not worth it. The people out there doing all the nasty in their deluded, drunken states not caring about anyone but themselves and never considering for a moment what they've done to the families who are affected day in and day out, well, ...they could care less. They're not even capable of true feelings as they can't possibly love themselves, thus, can't love someone else. So don't be so hard on yourselves. Remember never in a billion years did I think this could happen. It's a struggle I deal with constantly; never knowing if that change could take place without warning again. The only difference now is he's quit drinking and wants to make amends. He wants to make me happy and treats me like a queen. He admits to going to sleep for a very long time and being out of touch with reality. He admits to being insane. I tend to want to call it him being in a coma, braindead, and had amnesia.

david
September 18, 2007 11:51 PM

I sit here reading all of your comments and before anyone condones affairs whether emotional or physical or both you should read the following story

david
September 19, 2007 12:04 AM

(names have been changed) Jenny and steve had been married for about 7 years. Steve adopted Jenny's child from a previous relationship who was fifteen and they had one son together who was autistic and age 4. When their son was diagnosed with autism Jenny wanted to continue her fast rising coporate career and Steve decided to become a stay at home father, endlessly caring for their son which required him to drive all over the city for his son's therapies and to stay up all night b/c his son didn't sleep much. Jenny on the other hand went to work, socialized, traveled frequently with her job and slept peacefully every night. For two years Steve kept this up, although warned by many that this arrangement didn't seem fair, all for the sake of the family. Slowly deteoriating from fatigue and the crushing task of watching his little boy fade in front of his eyes and the demands of taking care of a teenage daughter Steve noticed some odd behavior from his wife. She had traveled extensively during the past months, acted irritable and withdrawn from the family at home, and never let her blackberry out of her sight. She even slept with it at night. Well, as many of you can guess...Steve figured it out. On a spring night Steve kindly asked his wife if she was having an affair. Her response was a loud NO followed by vulgar names being thrown at him. He knew right then that he was correct and walked away. (continued)

judy
September 27, 2007 11:52 AM

i am marride and had an affair for 4 years now. he is a very good person and understands me. i have been serparted from my husband for 5 years, but he stills comes around to see his kids. i just wanted to know how can you fall in love with a man, that doesnt want to fall in love with you?

Christine
October 10, 2007 3:18 PM

I am now out of an Emotional and Slight Physical affair that lasted almost 18 month's with a man who lives nextdoor to me, we are both married. I had know idea how deep in the ea I was until it was to late and I fell head overheal's in love with this man. I am certain that he loves me just the same, however we both have family's of our own so the timing was wrong. I will live the rest of my life with a certain sadness in my heart because I truely, deeply love him and I know in my heart that we are very right for one another in every possible way.

ruby2s
October 15, 2007 2:31 PM

so i find that my other half dosent seem interested in me anymore we us to be very phisical kisses when he came home holding me at night now he seems to have every reason not to touch me not to have sex or cuddle even while being intiment he has stoped says hes tired dosent feel good the kids in the next room ive heard it all. i love him but iam begining to think theres something wrong that iam doing, thats just crazy talk i find myself excepting attintion that i know i shouldnt iam becoming more open to an emotional affair because iam so lonley i know this is wrong and i dont want to lose my other half as he realy does complet me i fear with his behavior hes already gone else where ive asked and i think he is lying to me how do i get past this is ther any way for me to realy know are there sure signs how do i even bring it up iam not a forward person i cant imagine just blurting out are you cheating on me.HELP anyone i can feel my insides changing my whole body hurts just thinking about what may be what i have thought about doing whats wrong with me!

Dave
October 15, 2007 5:13 PM

The idea that one person can or even should fulfill all the needs of another person is wonderfully idealistic.. and wrong. There are a percentage of people that are lucky this way, but not many. I realize that I am flying in the face of conventional wisdom, but the problem is not the affair. It's the guilt. Trying to make another person be everything to you is putting a burden on them too. On another note, I don't see how or why anyone would make a judgement for another person's life.

For all of you in pain, I hope you have the courage to do what is right for YOU, and not for someone else, whether it is ending an affair, or starting one.

Gail
October 19, 2007 2:02 PM

I agree with Dave's comment. I think it is unrealistic to want one person to be everything to us and then be upset when their not. Besides we evolve and change constantly. I wouldn't want to burden one person to be the one. I think we have many soul mates along the way.

Anonymous
November 5, 2007 2:20 PM

how do you have "slight physical contact"??

June
November 6, 2007 12:13 PM

I have just found this website and these comments and I am saddened by what I am reading. If we are not to be able to have our mate, the person we married, for the good and bad, the happiest of the happy, or
for the saddest of the sad,...then what is the meaning of HOLY MATRIMONY? Why would our Lord create in us the desire and the ability to want to love and share our deepest parts of our hearts with ONE person for our entire life on this earth? I have personally been on the other side of the emotional and physical affair. I think and believe with my whole heart and soul that anyone can listen to the devil and give yourself permission to destroy not only your life, but also the person you vowed before God to face the certainties and uncertainties of this world with. So give me a break. I am so sick to death with all the people in this world screwing with other peoples lives. I have been with my husband through all of this emotional crap and for some reason maybe most would say I'm crazy for staying, but I love my husband and my children and mostly my Lord. I will never be able to explain any of this to my heart, but let me say if more people would not put themselves into positions to cheat...then I BELIEVE God
would and could give them the strength to love their mate with a depth
that only HE can give. Give Him the chance and please remember that most of us who live with the scars of heartbreak and endless thoughts of sadness really do matter. Praise God for loving us completely and
not having emotional and physical affairs.

Erica
November 16, 2007 10:12 AM

I COMPLETELY agree with June. I honestly think there is only ONE person you were meant to be with. If not, why marry the person you claim to love at that particular time in your life? Don't marry...just date, if that's the case. A past relationship of mine lasted longer than my marriage. That is SAD! If I would have known that my ex-husband thought there was MORE THAN ONE person he could love in his lifetime, I would NEVER have married him. However, I did marry him after the advice from family and friends that claimed 'we weren't meant for each other.' They were able to see something that I hadn't seen until now. Now, my problem is accepting the fact that I was meant to spend my life with the boyfriend that I left for the man who became my husband. My parents say, "Don't bother him!" I think there is a reason why after 6 years he still is NOT married but involved with a woman who has the potential of becoming his wife. HELP! Does anyone have GOOD advice for me?

Leo For Marriage
November 21, 2007 1:34 AM

My holiday wish: If you believe that you have more than one soul mate, then please don't make a commitment to someone who believes otherwise...define commitment with your partner before you become intimate -- if you're in agreement, continue the joy of that relationship. But if you're not in agreement, look for another partner. Dishonest participation in intimate relationships can break a heart, or heartS -- it can even devastate families. Screwing devoted lovers is cruel. There are plenty of other honorable options.

So if you're going to love, LOVE responsibly with accountability. May the Golden Rule always rule!!

Michael
November 23, 2007 11:37 PM

I'm totaly confussed and totaly caught up in this person. Sometimes years go by without us speaking, but we always come back to each other, convenience you say, or possibly hoping for the best, I don't really know. The problem is I'm hoplessly in love with this person willing to give up all and suppport in every way there needs. But relationships like this are severally limited. You can justify anything in this world especially the things you want most. The feeling of love is exceedingly strong and seductive, as is the the feeling to be needed and to be loved. So I search spirtitualy, mentally.

Stacy
November 28, 2007 2:05 AM

I will start by saying I was the cheater. I had a affair about 10 years ago, for about 9 months until I realized the man I was hanging around with wanted me to leave my husband. He did make me happy though, attempted to have intercourse with him 4 times and each time made me sick to my stomach. He took me places and did things for me that my husband never seemed to have time for. Me and my husband worked out our problems and life moved on. Then this past May I was feeling very down and damn! I had a one night stand with a guy I've known about a year and a half. I felt very guilty and told my husband about it. Now my husband has 2 "female" friends that he has grown very close to. I am in the military and working in a different state. He wants me to be "friends" with one of the women. The other he is very secretive about. He claims to not be sleeping with either, but our marriage is pretty much over I feel. From personal experience, try your best not to cheat or at least if it happens live with your guilt and don't tell your partner. I am dealing with many sleepless nights and guiltness now. Good luck everyone

MauraElaine
November 29, 2007 6:02 PM

It is difficult when the emotional affair is not with a person, but with a work lifestyle. My husband is an over the road truck driver who is so into his work that the emotions shown are out there not at home. Although he says he can take it or leave it, he was home for a month "trying" to get a local job which did not require weeks away from our local area. He put in two local applications and the others were for over the road companies. One other ap he wasn't qualified for so that was a waste of time. Four weeks without any pay and he was trying to say he wanted to be home. His emotional lover got him back after we almost bit the dust financially. How can a person even compete with a job that is so addictive? I tried it out there with him and he was impossible to be with. I was just a co-driver not a wife. And the flirting our there in front of me- let's not even go there! So I stay at home and am trying to fill up my life now. This affair has been going on for nearly 14 years. Our marriage will be 3 yrs this January. Yes, before you ask-I am in therapy, but he isn't because he thinks what he does is appropriate and now I know that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Any ideas on how to live with a man whose emotional lover is the open road and his truck driving?

Susan
November 30, 2007 11:41 AM

I have read your article on the emotional affair. I am the wife of a husband who claims that the "relationship/friendship" was only emotional. We live in a small town of 1500 people, she lives here as well. The relationship was exposed 3 months ago and she was fired/let go. My question is how do we re-establish the trust and move past this? Our family have not gone back to church because I refuse to walk down the aisle for communion beside or near this woman who was supposed to be my friend and sponsor. Our priest just shakes his head and says how sad but offers no solutions. Can you help?

Wendy
November 30, 2007 11:08 PM

I happened upon this because of my depression and the way I feel during the winter months. I have always wondered if there was a group for people with guilt....especially the kind of guilt I have. I knew there was but I still to this day, 7 years after it all started, will never understand how I could have fallen in love with the pastor of our small church. Being at this church was a dream come true for our family. And I, no we, ruined it all. I was a wonderful mother of 4 children....2 grown and 2 still at home. My introverted husband of many years had become involved at this church and we had many friends for the first time in our marriage. It was everything I had ever wanted. But the pastor and I fell in love and to me he was my soulmate. I couldn't live without him and everyday I needed to see him or talk to him. Nothing else mattered. I thought everyone should understand!!! The church, my friends, even my children. I knew my husband wouldn't but I felt as if I had never really loved him and couldn't stop what I was doing. I dreamed of my life with him constantly. It lasted for 2 years during which most of this time everyone knew but I still couldn't stop. Finally my husband and I could not longer stay together and we got a divorce. I got over the pastor only when I never saw or talked to him again. But I immediately replaced him with other men. I have so much guilt and regrets not that I will never be happy again and guess what? I remarried looking for it. But it has only caused more misery. I am trying to forgive myself but our family will never be the same.

curious
December 6, 2007 3:54 PM

How did you manage to fall in love with your Pastor? How did you get that close and when could you get that close? Maybe, foolish questions, but curious ..

Yvonnie
December 9, 2007 3:02 PM

I have alway`s tried verry hard to hide my cheatting.But it really is more like having to have more then one life.I have seen the pain and the hurt it has caused those who I have cheated on and those who I have cheated with.But I seemed more alive more happy getting the attention and the affection of two men it seemed as thew I never can get enough from one mind you it has nothing to do with sex at all it has to do with feeling needed cared about wantted desired. When I don`t feel this anymore I move on yea I know it is crazy I know it is selfish. I have done this almost my whole life.But I am hurtting myself as well because these men that I have used for my own gradification most of them where really good people and at first we where freinds and because I did not feel my need`s anymore i threw them to the side it has been a year sence I have done this but I still feel a strong desire to do so I hope that some may be able help me figure out why I do this I know I am wrong for doing this but it is like a Drug that I am Addicted to. I thought that I should add that I do have mental health problem`s which I am taking medication for now.

Gina
January 2, 2008 11:06 AM

We need an article about people who are emotionally attached to their parents to the point they CAN'T have their own lives. It is horrible that a parent would do that to their child just to satisfy their own fear of abandonment.

T
January 7, 2008 4:01 PM


I think people who have any type of affair do it for many reasons, some do if for the fun of it, for thrills others may do it just to pay their bills (damn that rymed). But overall all of that can be avoided but sometimes "some" people need to feed their "fragile egos" to the point where they stop caring about what their spouse or partner thinks and they then become just selfish people in general who probably didn't care about their partners in the first place. They just wanna see if they "Still Got It"!

And... they mess it up for the next person because of their selfish behavior. And if you "ARE" MARRIED and are not happy, then why not talk to your partner first, or at least try to make some attempt to get to the bottom of your "unhappiness" because it's easy to put the blame on someone else when you don't want to deal with what's going on within yourself so instead of recognizing it for what it is, you go and have an affair which these days could not only put your life in jeopardy but "ALSO" the life of your partner or spouse.

Geri
January 9, 2008 10:49 AM

Some people you can talk "to" until you are blue in the face and they won't hear our needs. As life goes and we grow into our Being, new facets emerge and can threaten our significant other. Especially if that leads to new connections with those who share our new direction, and our partner doesn't choose to embrace the changes. In my case, I did NOT understand why my mate spent so much time gardening - when I had grown up in a family where mowing the grass was optional and considered punishment. When I wrote something that received some notoriety and touched a deep down place that had been in the shadows for a long time, it branched off into a connection that took on a life of its own. Only in my mind and fantacies. The guilt at this secret pleasure soon became a not-very-secret pleasure - and the spouse who had had his own series of little trysts and perhaps larger ones was angered greatly because he could no longer control this facet anymore than I could stuff it away. Guilt? "Hell" yes! And as the years pass and the overview of the past decade evolves, I can see that the 'other' connection served to identify and hone my writing nerve - allowing me to wish I had been better equipped to understand that and find a good balance in a marriage that in the rearview mirror was a pretty good match for life going forward.

Emily
January 16, 2008 11:11 AM

My husband and I have been married over 30 years now..30 mostly stormy, lonely years. He started out having affairs, or if not affairs, putting everyone else first. After about 6 years of marriage, he and my best friend, (like a sister, I thought) had a overnight fling. Well, I never saw her again. She tried to call several times, but I never let the relationship start back up. I would have left him then, I believe, but I had found out I was pregnant again just a couple of days before.
Anyway, I just always had a hard time feeling really connected with him after that, even though I still loved him. Now for the really hard story...About 8 years ago, he became highly addicted to meth. I couldn't believe it!! I didn't even know what the stuff was when my kids told me. I saw him change in a way I couldn't believe. I also felt guilty about the way I knew I always kept my emotional distance. I decided I did love him, he was worth much more than the life he was living, (jail, felon, stealing, making a fool out of himself). My children and grandchildren also deserved much more. They did not deserve a dad in jail! I was going to save him, (yeah, right), Well, he has gone through rehab and is doing really well now for going on four years. But that is not because of me, but because of the Law. But during this time, he became very close to a girl the age of his second child. He was always talking about her big heart, how pretty she was and on and on and on. I really did believe it was because she was on the drugs also, and of course, she saw things as he did. Their favorite verse "F--- it!" I did not think this was real.
Well, they did break it off..I thought he broke it off with her, which he did, but later I found out, it was not because of ME!! She had tried to commit suicide a few times and that is what he would always say, I'm trying to help her. Well, after they broke it off, she did commit suicide. I grieved like I did not understand..no one around me understood. I understand now..it is because I'll never know if he would have gone back to her again. I know he still thinks of her..songs he said reminded him of her, he still turns up on the radio. When he got out of rehab, he told his sister that he made a choice to love me no matter what!! Even though he is doing alright now, I wonder if he is just doing what is right, after all, I was there for him through it all. Does he love me or is he in love with a dead woman? I'm not talking about a man whose wife died and he remarried..I'm talking about a woman that came into our lives after 20+ years of marriage! Please comment..

Tina
January 23, 2008 6:36 PM

I have been in limbo with my life for over fourteen months-- due to clinical depression, late mid life crisis and dry drunk syndrome (my spouses). Fourteen months ago, he sat down across from me and made this statement, "I just don't want to live with anybody. I want to live alone."
There was no talking to him, and certainly I tried. I suggested marriage counseling, which fell on deaf ears. He was determined to leave and without giving me a plausible reason!
He emailed me that he needed information so he could initiate divorce proceedings. EMAILED ME, mind you! He was too cowardly to say this to my face! In April, the divorce was to be final, but he came to the courthouse and stopped it, saying he didn't think he wanted to be divorced. Would any sane person expect him to want to reconcile and work on the marriage problems? YES! I expected him to do everything possible and then some to make it up to me and to show me he loved me and wanted our marriage to work. That did not happen.
Later, I found out he had had an affair during the months of Jan. and Feb. and I confronted him with the knowledge. He did not deny it. I told him I understood and he said he didn't. Months have gone by; we have had fight after fight, argument after argument and we have gone to four marriage counseling sessions to no avail. He moved back to our home, but lives in his office and finally he told me he just does not want to be married. Too damned bad he couldn't have said that months and months agao and meant it, rather than to lead me on and keep torturing me.
SO, now after almost forty four years of marriage, I am faced with being divorced, and starting a new life! And, I blame depression and late mid life crisis mostly. I am not saying I don't have any faults, because I certainly do, but I have forgiven him and been as loving and compassionate as any one human being can be, and he still does not want to work on our marriage. It has been a devastating year plus for me, but I have grown so much spiritually and as a person. I have to believe good has and will come from these shattered dreams.
He has insisted his affair has been over for quite some time, and I want to believe him, since he's never been a cheating man (to my knowledge) before. I have to let him go even though I absolutely hate divorce and the idea of being alone and lonely. BUT, I am not going to give up on myself or on God! I think after all this time I have finally gotten to the last stage of the grieving process--- the acceptance stage. I know I cannot change my soon to be ex spouse, or anyone else. The only thing I can do is try to make the best of one of the most horrible seasons of my life.
Forgiveness is crucial. I hope you are able to forgive your husband and love him in spite of the hurt he has inflicted upon you. I wish you well. God will not abandon you!

Lisa
January 27, 2008 5:53 PM

I read your situations and mine situation does not compare to yours however, it is painful. After 16 yrs of living with my two son' father I finally had the chance to ask him to leave. My ex was never a father, husband to us and yet he would always comment that family came first or you're the mother of my boys I'll always be here for you. Well, he was always here for us but never did anything a father, man or husband is suppose to do for his family. He never even took out trash, he ate and slept and that's what he was good at. He worked all these years but never helped with bills yet he paid his own bills like girlie magazines, mail order shoes, clothes, motorcycle parts, etc. He did help pay for half of the heating bill, after five years living with me, never bought groceries yet, he would tell his friends and his family he was providing for all of us. I stayed with him this long thinking something will happen this year but, I was always left like a movie cliff hanger. We decided to move to another state and I'll go back to school while he worked, ( I kept thinking this way he'll have to pay bills if we do) but he found new biker friends and we couldn't leave because now he was a memeber of the club. If he starts anywhere he'll have to start from the bottom and he didn't want to do that. So, we stayed in the same place, same house, same area now for the past 16 yrs. Through these years he gone through 4 motorcycles (3HD's). All of the club paraphanillia that cost in the hundreds, leather jackets, trunk full of t-shirts, HD boots several pairs, etc. I also bought my mother-in-law christmas presents because he never did but took the credit for it. All these years I hung on because I truly loved him, we would still hold hands when we walk together, or riding in the truck, love making was so passionate but, I forced myself to stop that and just did it once a week or once every two weeks. I had to quit being affectionate because of his selffishness. He never played ball with his boys, never took them to the playground, if he went with them somewhere he would get snacks just for himself so I quit telling the boys to go with him. He never had the patience, to do thins with them. My older son who is 16 now will be entering rehab for smoking marijuana, I never realized he was smoking since he was 11 yrs. old. I just cried, why didn't I see this, I blame myself for this and because I don't want my younger son to get involved in this type of activity we talk about it all the time and my older son is willing to go rehab. I call this day the day after christmas. While sitting at the kitchen table my ex was in & out of the bathroom, obviously getting ready for something and he finally said "oh, I'm going to alburquerque" I said when? and he said "now". I asked him when did you decide to do this and what about me and the boys? we want to come along and he said "I have no money to feed you guys". Besides I need a break. But, I'll ask one of the guys (Biker friends) to go with me. I told him it's too late for them (they have families) and when they make trips they plan way ahead of time, so I told him take one of the boys at least but, he gave me a quick peck on my cheek and was out the door. This really and truly hurt as we didn't mean anything to him anymore, I think I knew that already but reality really hit that morning. I waited until I knew he was in albuquerque and since he didn't call I called him and told him you can have a long break when you come back you can take all your things and leave. We don't mean anythng to you anyway. It's been a month so far and I'm feelin' good about starting a new life with my boys. I received a very special message from certain individuals and they advised me to not look back and continue on with a new life with my boys. I'm planning to make that move to another state and hopefully life will be good to us. Thanks for taking the time. Lisa

Brandy Miller
January 29, 2008 9:17 AM

I've been on both sides of an affair, I'm sorry to say. For my part, we had both agreed very early in our relationship that it would be okay to have extramarital relationships, as we married young and thought we might become curious about what-if's later. Suffice it to say that I experimented with what-if's plenty. I had such low self-esteem that I really didn't understand even why I did it, but later realized I was looking for affirmation of my worth in those men's beds. I wanted to believe that I was somebody, and even though my husband loved me I couldn't accept that love because *I* didn't love me. I also didn't feel sexually excited by my husband and was looking for substitutes, even though it always left me empty. I was 25 the day that I suddenly realized I had spent so much of my life trying to be what somebody else wanted me to be that I didn't know who I was. I decided then and there I wasn't going to have any more affairs. It wasn't worth the damage it was doing to me, or to our relationship. He had been telling me for several years that he really didn't want anyone else but me, and I finally said the same to him and meant it.

Four years later, my husband meets a woman who is just about everything I was plus she found him sexually attractive. Like me, he battles low self-esteem and severe bouts of depression. This was just about irresistable to him. He had his affair. The sad thing was that I spent that summer visiting my mother and had been praying very hard for the Holy Spirit to allow me to feel the same passion for my husband that He feels for His bride. When I came home that summer, I was amazed that I was excited by just being near him. For the first time in our marriage, I was aroused by his touch. Two weeks later, he admitted to the affair. I was stunned. I had never ever been so hurt in my entire life. The worst part was the woman he had an affair with I had considered my best friend. It was a double betrayal.

At first, the pain was with me constantly. I would be okay for a little while and then break out into bouts of anger or just plain tears. Gradually, as our trust was rebuilt, the pain came less and less often. It's been hard to fix what was broken in our relationship, but we're both incredibly stubborn and committed to making things work. We also love each other, as flawed and broken as we may be and as bad as we sometimes are at expressing those feelings, the love is real.

Brad
January 31, 2008 12:36 AM

I think all to often we look to someone else to make us happy, or fix us. We rely on others to make us happy, when we are unhappy with some thing within ourselves. Often we know somewhere were the problem lies, but we need to be honest with ourselves. That can be the hardest thing to do in life. Admit our own mistakes and failures. We want an escape or a false fantasy. We often create a false image of someone and what they are. This image is never the reality of the situation. Some thing to direct the focus away from ourselves. Much like a drug addiction or a battle with booze. Affairs are pretty much along the same lines. The problem often doesn't lie with our spouse. It is some thing within us, and no marriage or affair is going to fix that. It is an emotional HIGH that we look for. A fix. Think about that term and and see it's meaning , although a temporary one at best, and never a solution to the real problem. The term fix is used as a false solution or escape. A crutch. One needs to get to the root of the problem and deal with it to really be happy in life.

It is often easier to find something new and exciting than it is to put the WORK into a relationship that it takes. Not until we realize this, that it is going to be the case over and over again. The grass is always greener.

We are a strange creature when it comes to relationships. We often have wants and desires from someone we love. In trying to get that from someone we usually go about it in totally the wrong way. Too often we act in a manner that is hurtful, demeaning, and disrespectful of the true response we crave from our partner. Then we expect them to act in a favourable way back to us. We act on emotion and that is often a negative. We need to work on thinking about what we want from someone and how we can get that in a positive manner. Too many people think that things like jealousy and anger are someone caring for them. These are a negative and in the long run only lead to hurt, resentment, and lack of trust. People often want their cake and eat it too. They want control. Usually because they feel they have no control with themselves.

Larry Parker
February 12, 2008 11:37 AM

All the women at Georgetown when I was there chased my advisor, the most handsome priest on campus. "Fr. Whatashame," they called him.

Naturally, he was gay.

Lori
February 21, 2008 12:59 PM

I am 21 years old. I have a two year old, and I am pregnant with my second child. I have been married to my husband now for almost a year. He is a problem drinker. He has really messed up with drugs and alcohol in the past year. But we have everything we need: home, nice car, etc. The only thing is he spends all our extra money on alcohol, and he has done bad drugs in the past, which he was led to through alcohol. We have two daughters now to worry about, and I know I need to leave. He is emotionally abusive to me and has shown physical abuse as well. He cannot be trusted with alcohol, and he refuses to quit, saying it's my problems. Anyway, along with this unhappiness, came an emotional affair. First it was just "innocent" flirting with my baby's father, ex-boyfriends, people who it was familiar with. Then, I started getting a fix on it and flirting with them bad. That's all that happened. Mine is strictly an emotional affair, but I still feel all the guilt. I have just met a new guy on myspace. He lives in my area, and seems to be the dream I was always looking for. I know this is not necessarily true, since I have experienced A LOT of bad past relationships (worse than you'd guess). I know that my husband and I are most likely not going to work, I am just terrified to take that first step. I get my emotional needs met by my new friend. He takes care of me in that aspect. And now we have started calling each other. I want to meet him. But I am ready to leave my husband. I just have no where to go, no job, and two beautiful daughters to worry about... I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. But I plan, before anything happens with this new guy, I am leaving my husband, I just have to get the courage, which I am recieving from my new friend. I know it is not right to have an affair on your husband, but in my case, I feel guilty, and I don't. My husband is not who I am supposed to be with. So I go through emotional turmoil everyday. When I see my husband lately, I think about Nick (the other guy). I think about what it would be like to be sitting there with him and not my husband. But I am not happy with my husband. I am ready to leave him for Nick....
That's just my crazy comments. Thank you for your time. Lori.

undercoverangel
February 27, 2008 1:07 PM

I have recently came back to live with my husband and son but it is killing me that I can no long talk to my lover he understood me like no other. I miss him so much that I have been depressed and it is starting to reflect on my son. I want to be with him but I'm not happy with his dad. What can I do I have been on medication for 4years noe and that is all my husband says whrn I feel sad. "Did you take your med?" I didi not feel like this with my lover what is it. HELP ME PLEASE i can no long take the pain I feel inside.

Sheryl G
February 28, 2008 10:25 PM

Man, this hits home really hard. I'm sitting here, still crying day after day, because my husband got addicted to using the internet for a year, and I discovered last October that he was having an internet affair with a younger woman in Canada. We live in Texas. Our marriage, I thought, was solid. He did all the things a happily married man does with me, every single day and night, and all the while, he was living a double life, he would make love to me, and then get up late at night and go to the computer. I found the nude photos he had taken of himself on his webcam and sent to her. I found the nude pics of her, too. I received an email from her stepfather, he had found me on Facebook and emailed me. He hated to break the news, but he felt I should know. Their affair ruined her marriage, her husband and her little boy left her. And I had an emotional breakdown three days later. I just couldn't handle it. I was in the hospital for three weeks, and when I got home, I ordered him to move the computer out of our kitchen and into a spare room, so that I wouldn't have to listen to him talking to her on the webcam every night. Even though it was in a spare room, I could hear them, laughing, "making love" in cyberspace, he would sing to her while she was doing things to herself. It is a completely sick relationship. He did this to me, knowing it was killing me each day, because he knew, and still knows, that I love him with all my heart. I didn't ask for any of this, and now, here I am, in our house, she ordered him to leave me, so he did. She has this power over him, and there are so many miles between them. He still says he loves me, that I'm beautiful, blah blah...he filed for divorce, thinking it would be a quickie thing, at the last minute, I got a good divorce attorney and stopped it. I'm making him support me for another year at least. And I'm ordering counseling. I'm still praying against all odds, that God will intervene, and heal this marriage. I wanted to grow old with him, and yet now my family worries for me, because they can see how sick he is, this thing he has done to me, he left me with no money, I'm completely broke, he bashed out the back window of my car a few nights ago, he is menacing, he scares me, and I don't even know him anymore. It's as if someone took over his body. I hate internet affairs, I hate infidelity. He could have told me he wanted out, but we signed a lease on an expensive house just days before I found out. Now why would he do that? So he could have his cake and eat it, too, I suppose. He wanted both lives. He is very sick, but his sickness has made me sick, too. It's made my depression much worse. I don't want to live most days. My dog keeps me going. She's precious to me, he loves her, too, but I won't let him come over to see her. I'm giving him time, to see if he wakes up from alll this, or if maybe I wake up and move on. I'll take any advice, I need guidance, I'm so lost.

Teresa
March 3, 2008 7:26 PM

I HONESTLY believe people who have emotional affairs or sexual affairs are totatly selfish people. BooHoo... "my life is missing something..." Hey, if you're not SELFISH, leave the spouse you dont have that "attachment" to and let the one left behind HEAL AND FIND HIS/HER TRUE LOVE cuz APPARENTLY it WASNT YOU.

I think what happens is most people arent HONEST with their chosen partnet to beginwith: albeit about money, sex, children, roles.... Then when they PLAY the role they made themselves out to BE, they boo hoo got unhappy. Selfish selfish selfish.

Everyone !!! Go be happy. Cuz staying or going back with the one you cheated on isnt MAKING THAT PERSON HAPPY. TRUST ME. Dont you all deserve to be happy?

Anonymous
March 5, 2008 11:48 AM

wow, i would like to correspond with sheryl g from texas who posted feb 28 2008. our stories are similar, and i have not joined any other support groups and will be ending counseling soon.

Pilar
March 14, 2008 10:26 PM

I'm married for six years and It wasn't so good, he stop losing interest because he was watching a movie or playing games he didnt have time for me. Couple months ago I called a close friend of us (he is married too) and he make a coment which Im not going to say here and I replied back to him in the same way...well we started calling each other and after that we have sex and we see each other when my husband or his wife was working. he is my neighbor too.. Two months ago his wife find out and we have a fight and we stop talking for like almost two months. then he start calling me and leaving me romantic music on my cellphone and we start talking again and something else you now...and then the last time that I was with him he told me I will call you in two days and he never did. And the worst thing is that I really miss him so bad that everytime that I think in him it make me cry so bad. He was so different from my husband he got everything I like. And I can't avoid looking by my window to see if he is home or I can see him. I know that I make myself suffer doing that..I want to stop thinking in him, I know that this have to end I need some help. I dont have nobody to talk to. I really dont know what to do....

Mare
March 31, 2008 1:43 PM

I am not the cheater in this case. My soon to be Ex-husband was the one who becamed involved in first an emotional affair with of all people a person who was suppose to be my best friend! I saw the signs approx. four years ago. The flirting, touching and all the sneaky conversations they had. All this behavior would stop whenever I or her spouse would get near to them. But when they were drunk (which was very often) they became very brazen with their actions. All the time saying, "We're just friends." Well last year while we were staying in Florida as we did every winter, I would catch him sneaking on his cell phone right outside the front door. He was suppose to have no contact with her as her husband caught her the year before doing the same thing. So I started checking up on him again. He would call her house while her husband was in work and then delete my husbands cell number off the caller ID before her spouse returned from work. And when she wanted to call my husband, she would signal him from a pay phone. When I returned home from Florida, I confronted him. Once again with this guilty look.......We're just friends. I knew by this time that their so called friendship had turned sexual also. He walked out the door and was living with her few weeks later. We were married 10-1/2 years and she was married to her spouse 2 months shy of thirty years. They destroyed two families and I agree with Teresa. They are two very SELFISH people who only put their needs before anyone else. She wanted my life and she persued it until she got what she wanted. While she thinks she stoled my life, she didn't........She can never be me. I am a firm believer that what goes around....comes around. And while I still feel extremely hurt & betrayed, I also believe no good will come of their selfishness and that they will get theirs eventually. You reap what you sow. So to all of you who has been betrayed by a wife or a husband, try to get on with your life. It's really hard I know this but just remember it's not your fault. If people are that unhappy, they should have the decency to leave their spouses before they decide to step into any kind of affair. I really hope this post will be of some comfort & help to all of you that are in this situation. Life goes on and we must try to make the most of a bad ordeal. I believe that we all deserve happiness and leaving with a cheating spouse or boyfriend etc...........is just not acceptable. It's true......Once a cheat........always a cheat. And we deserve so much more then that.

carol s
March 31, 2008 7:02 PM

i know all about emotional affairs and cyber cheating!!!
i have beendealing with it for 6 monts with the man that has asked me
to marry him. He is on a lot of web sites for different types of women.
and they believe him, he is unawared of all the knowledge and mames I have collected the past 3 months, he also wants to connect or may have already connected with a old lover, He said we were married except for the paper, so i have put it in the hands of God. vengence is mine sayeth the Lord!!!!!

Teresa
April 12, 2008 2:05 PM

Help!! im suicidal/homicidal! my husband left me on our 30th anniverary for a 28yr old he met on the internet! he left me holding the bag on all his debt, left me without a car and needing throat surgery! he lied to this women about his age, his occupation, and told her he was single, after i told her the truth she still let my husband move in with her! what i would like to know is how a women can be so hard-up for a man that she becomes a major low-life!! No i dont want him back! i just want him to step up to the plate and help pay the debts that he created! yes im hurt and yes im devastated! someome please tell me..will their relationship last?? shes 28 hes 53 they have been together for 8 months now, they only met twice in person befor he moved in with her! Thanks for letting me vent. teresa

Missy
April 14, 2008 10:58 AM

My Husband has a coworker that he's been talking with at work about me. I.m dealing with depression very badly. I asked him not to this because i don't want everybody in the world to know. They may think I'm crazy.Well after asking him not to do so he still has been. He has been coming home an hour later from work. After I kept on asking why he told me that he was waiting for her to get out of work so that they could talk about me. He said he needed someone to talk too. I have asked him to go back to the counsler he went to. He said that I was pushing him away which I don't believe to be true. Also we were invited to her house for dinner. This was before I knew that where talking alot at work after hours. She cooked greek food,he's greek.
when it was time to sit for dinner I tried to sit next to her so that we werent talking across the table and the two guys werent talking across at one another. He said he wouldn't do it anymore but he still is. My question is, would you consider this an emotional affair. I'm confused between just talking and What actually is an emtional affair.

Missy
April 14, 2008 11:41 AM

I forgot to mention that as I stated about sitting next to her, she had my husband sit next to her. I was not happy. I cannot stop thinking about this. Please help me figure this out I do believe that this was an emotional affair. but i might just reading more into it.

Jack
April 14, 2008 4:53 PM

I agree with Mare. This has happened to me more than once with my husband. I believe also what goes around comes around and people who do that are totally selfish people, unable to grow and mature as we all must do. Having to find immediate gratification is such a problem in this society that I believe if more people cared about others the way it is meant to be, we would have less hurt in this world.

Lola
April 14, 2008 9:28 PM

I think the best indicator if you are having an emotional affair is would you or your Partner be comfortable if your Partner were right there with you hearing & watching your interactions & discussions with this other person. Also how exactly would you feel if the shoe were on the other foot & you were watching your Partner engaged in exactly the same types of interactions & discussions with the opposite sex. Bottom line, if you have to hide your relationships in some manner from your partner, your walking a slippery slope.

Lloyd
April 14, 2008 9:59 PM

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt!!! Had an emotional affair while married. Complained constantly to this woman about my horrible marriage but did little to nothing to directly and honestly address my marital problems with my wife. Long story short, the emotional affair eventually turned into a full blown physical affair, destroyed my marriage, kept me from contact with my daughter whom I loved very much, and I eventually ended up divorced from my daughter's mother and married this woman. The sparks really flew for five years and then as suddenly as the relationship ignited, the flame went out and six years later I found myself divorced and alone again with only more heartbreak and memories. I wouldn't do any part of my life over again, but I certainly learned a lot from this experience. I am now happily married and like all men I occasionally look and wish, but I don't touch and I don't fool myself into believing the grass is greener on the other side. It's an illusion and I am a wiser man today.

Lola
April 15, 2008 12:16 AM

Also don't let your Mate Gaslight you & send you in circular conversations about how you have it "all wrong" , "are making a big deal out of nothing", "we're just friends" "your acting insecure" or "being jealous". You have a right to your own feelings & perceptions. Your have a right to ask questions & expect answers that make sense & restore harmony. Thats what healthy, thriving, mutually respectful relationships offer to one another. As Dr. Phil says, "a soft place to fall". My ex blew up the first time I asked him about a women who was very cozy with him at a party we were both at when we first met. All that was necessary for him to do would have been for him to pull me close & tell me I was his #1 girl & respond in a more respectful way in the future. But this was not to be. I spent a very unhappy 3 1/2 years trying to be his #1 girl, trying with all my mite to ignore my gut that was telling me the truth. He had many Women friends some of them ex's, & in the end the provocative text messages that he told me were just a friend being silly, turned out to be way more...

Regina
April 15, 2008 9:44 AM

I just had one of these emotional affairs.. And as I look back I just can't believe that I fell for his flowery words .. I guess that I needed to hear them but I really wanted to hear them from my husband !

My husband and I have been together for 11 years married for 7. We used to talk about everything and spend quiet time together just the two of us, anymore it's about the jobs, kids and even the money .

We have both been married before ,but this marriage means more to us.
We can both say been there done that wrote the book , and bought the T-shirt.
We are still together today . and still working on our marriage.
Thanks for letting me put in my two cents worth.

Regina
April 16, 2008 11:52 AM

My husband is involved with this person... and he does not think he is doing "anything wrong". He is a good man, helps anyone he can, he's a good father and a great friend.

This married woman's daughter is in school with my daughter. That is how we know them. This woman's marriage is/was on the rocks, and my husband helped her through them.

When we are together with this woman, I see the eyelash flutters, the dreamy look in her eyes when she is looking at my husband.

My husband and I fight, argue about it... I've cried and went through a "dark time"... How do get my husband to see what is happening?

robbie
April 17, 2008 1:13 AM

Darling, most cheater want admit they are doing anything wrong. Try confronting him when you are alone and in a relaxed mode. Explain to him that you love him and can see this person coming between the two of you. Tell him you love him and that you don't want anyone to come between you and your family. Use and example, ask him if the shoe was on the oteher foor would he see things a little differently? If he was the one feeling threaten, would see thing from you point of view? Good luck and maybe you are seeing things that are not really there. Hopefully, that is the case. Marriages are sacred and should be cherished and efforts put forth to sustain such a wonderful union. God bless you and give you peace.

betty
April 27, 2008 1:53 PM

My husband of 7 years, got involved with another woman. He has called her & text messaged her. I found more than 87 minutes worth of phone calls to her in 1 morning. He has also instant messaged a woman that he plays internet party poker with. He even gave her his phone number. We started having problems about 3 years ago when his son came to live with us. I had 2 boys of my own also. His son had no rules. He'd come home at 5:00 in the morning at 16. I didn't let my boys do that. He was constantly drunk, and it was ok with his Dad who's a police officer. He finally moved out and I hoped things would get better. Then I found out about all the phone calls. He left me after I read something that he wrote to his party poker lady. I love the man, but he refuses to come back home. He says he doesn't know what he wants, that he loves me & I need to give him time. Am I crazy or just stupid? We were both married before & both had affairs. I thought we both knew better because those relationships never work out. He says that they never slept together. But to me an emotional affair is harder to get over. He said at one point that he didn't have contact with her anymore. Yesterday he said he's talked to her a couple of times. My health is bad & this stress is making it worse. Any advice for me?

Allison Johnson
April 28, 2008 2:36 PM

I, too was involved in an emotional affair.My husband of 20+ years and I were separated not yet divcorced. we were in the process of trying to "work it out". My husband had 2 affairs that i beleived were short lived, but the third one seemed different. when I found out I was distraught because we semed to work thru the past affairs and for many years we seemed to be fine. Or so I thought. However I met a Man who was also separated from his wife because of her infidelity, so we had something in common.He loved his wife and I my husband. We started talking to soothe our aches and became good friends. Went to dinner, movies etc. because we wanted friendship.Both of us, he in his late forties I mid forties.Because our christian beliefs are so strong we never had sex but and kiss was a on the cheek, but the emotional ties were strong.we talk on the phone for hours on end.We both went to separate counselling and divorced our mates. Guess what we are now happily married for the past 5 years.It doesn't work this way for everyone. God bless you.

Anonymous
April 28, 2008 2:44 PM

believe it or not emotional cheating may seem like therapy now but the consequences out weigh the good feeling while you are in it.

Harold (an obvious pseudonymn)
April 28, 2008 3:29 PM

Get out of emotional infidelities as fast as you can. It won't be easy. Somebody will have to be the mean one first. But get out. They will destroy your mental health. I have been dealing with a case of this for almost two years. You go through this "but we are such great friends" "I know this is wrong but". I never touched my extra-marital flame, never laid a finger on her. But it was far from Platonic. It finally ended when she found someone else and moved on from the insanity it was. That left me free to pick up the pieces with the woman I am actually married and supposed to be bearing my soul to. So get out of the emotional affair, or get out of your legal marriage. There is no medium ground here, as long as you want to be sane.

Unknown
April 29, 2008 9:34 AM

I was the husband at home....very sadly I am no longer a husband, but rather just another ex-husband. OUR story is tragic as most seem to be! Years and years of marriage, love, and laughter only to have it all go down the drain with the help of a man who in retrospect I suppose was working on his 4th marriage after spending 6 to 7 years in the previous ones.

I realize now as the months turn into years that there were problems in our relationship. I simply thought that these were problems that every relationship wrestled with. I was so wrong and sadly enough when I finally "saw the light," it was too late, she had already checked out! I never saw it coming!

In retrospect I can see very clearly now that my wife had decided to leave much earlier than I could have imagined. As a result, she wanted nothing to do with counseling when I became clued in to what was going down. After attempts soley on my side to reconcile, I finally pleaded with her to divorce me if she felt that she must, but to please communicate with me as to why this was happening so that I wouldn't make the same mistakes again. Unfortunately, that never happened and I am left to live eternity I suppose wondering where I went wrong.

She was deeply involved in an emotional affair with her boss who was a married man as well. I suspect that it turned physical, but she vehemently deinied this despite major clues to the contrary! Upon finding out about the affair while we were still together, I eventually confronted my wifes boss about it. Only to have him become violent with me saying that "they were just friends" this after I asked him if HIS wife knew of this friendship. We aren't just talking about the occaisional conversation at work thing, going to lunch and that! It was 10 to 20 calls a day, calls at 2am where she would sneak downstairs while I slept to speak with him, and much more!

Marjorie's story is very interesting to me as my ex-wife to this day doesn't acknowledge that she had any kind of an affair, but instead chooses to believe that it was simply a friendship. The "facts" prove otherwise. I finally gave up trying to help her to understand this coming to the point of where I realized that individuals control their own destiny! We cannot control other people, even those who are so very dear to you!

It was like watching my wife speeding in her car on a dangerous highway approaching a cliff. Thinking she was in control of the situation she wasn't about to use her brakes to slow down only realizing after it was too late that she should have exercised caution in her path. And all I could do is watch helplessly as the car continued on it's deadly path.

Emotional affairs are very painful, and I would say probably more painful than physical affairs from the standpoint of that I believe physical affairs to be mostly about the sex!

This man provided a shoulder for my wife to cry on, vent to, and consult with problems that she was having. This "unlicensed counselor" tried to take the place of what should have been a professionaly trained Therapist! I have since found out that he has used scripture in his "therapy" with my ex-wife. As catagorized by his own wife who I contacted at one point, he was a real "preditor!"

I would just ask that anyone involved in an emotional affair who thinks that they are in control and can end the affair at any time to think twice.

The pain that has resulted from the affair has devestated many. It is absolutely mind-boggling how many people outside of the spouses involed that these situations effect. Many are hurt deeply from these affairs, not just the spouses involved.

I do believe that affairs are like drugs or alcohol, you very much so can become addicted if you are not careful! And even though it may make us feel good, it doesn't mean that it is good for us!

I truly believe that if this man were not involved in trying to help my spouse with problems we might have been having in our marriage, we would still be married. Or at least would have had counseling directed at solving our problems.

Beware, beware, beware!

Nina
April 29, 2008 7:34 PM

I've witnessed these "emotional affairs" twice now, both with devastating effects upon the families of the involved person. It's so easy to get sucked in, especially when the relationship begins on the internet. The person convinces themselves "it's not really cheating" because there's no physical contact, and then they progress to meeting up, rationalizing this as well. The bottom line is this: if you're hiding this from your spouse, or if you wouldn't want your spouse to see the texts, emails, message board interaction, then you already know, deep down, that what you're doing is cheating, even if it isn't physical (yet).

stelle
April 30, 2008 9:25 AM

An emotional affair is like speeding down a major highway in the car of your dreams.....you are enjoying the ride, this is what you've always wanted in a car.....but now you realize there is traffic ahead and you have to stop......but your dream car has NO BRAKES. Emotional affairs are just like that they feel good but hurt yourself and all those that you claim to love.

Rose Ellis
May 1, 2008 12:26 PM

I just found e-mails my husband wrote to someone that he worked with and he crossed the line. I brought it to his attention and of course he said it was only a close friendship. I knew it was more. He began to sneak around to see her and this broke my heart. We are in counseling and I am trying to trust him again, but I am having a hard time. Cheating is cheating to me, whether platonic or not. I always ask myself would he forgive me? What did I do to push him away and will he continue to be faithful or continue to see her when I am not looking.

I almost had an emotional breakdown, because after 32 years I lost myself in this marriage. I am currently trying to get myself back together, through prayer and working, but sometimes that is not enough. Rules of conduct should apply on the job, at church and socially. Some people forget that rules apply all the time not just when they are convenient for that person.

David
May 2, 2008 2:27 PM

My wife is having an emotional affair with a man on the internet. Although they are across the world, him in Austria and her in Virginia it has taken it's toll. On top of things she honestly thinks there is nothing wrong with it and stays up until 1:00 and 2:00 in the morning talking to him. Talking to her about it is like talking to a brick wall and I'm at my breaking point.

amy
May 3, 2008 10:35 PM

i am 4 years married to my husband and we love each other so much, everything looks like ok until i became hooked to "just a friend"
he is an officemate and we have casual talks, e mails and occasionally, lunch.
later did i realize that i am starting to hide his messages to my husband, flirting thru email, started to be infantuated and thought about this "friend" all the time. i stopped every mean of communication with him since guilt feelings started to overwhelm me but i miss him so much...
if i have been careful at the start i wouldnt have to go through all the guilt and sorrow...

Anonymous
May 5, 2008 10:58 AM

Truly blessed to have read these!!!

God help us all.

Sissy Henson
May 5, 2008 12:32 PM

I have been with my husband for 15 years/married for 13. Last year He had an emotional affair with a woman at work. We got back together after he stated his undying love for me and how sorry he was. Well...here we are, almost a year later and I just found out last night that he has chosen to have a continuance of that affair and that he has fallen in love with her. I got very sick and we have financial stress here in Miami. Apparently, he can't handle life in the real world and shame on him. Here, I am left wikth a broken heart and two daughters to take care of and my health is not good. I pray for him because he must have been real unhappy to tear OUR FAMILY apart. I am so hurt and I feel cheated out of love.

R U kidding me?
May 5, 2008 7:29 PM


Top 10 ways to tell if your man is GAY

10. He's more interested in the cute waiter than he is YOU

9. He's got a male (friend) who spends more time with him than you

Cee
May 6, 2008 9:59 AM

I dont even know where to begin I have been in an emotional affair with a married man for the past three years it has recently ended due to his return back home as he cannot leave his children.
I was always one of those people who said "Me and a married man? never no way!" as I have seen it happen to people and would never want to be the cause of breaking up a family, however it has happened and it is the worse situation I could ever have gotten into, I am now going through therapy to get over it.
If God gave me the choice to erase the past three years I would snap it up constantly, there has been and still is so much pain and heartache to all involved.
I met him at work and there was an instant spark and we became good friends, we talked about everything and anything he informed me he had gotten married young and felt pressurised by family and church to go ahead with it and they met and married within months.
The relationship developed into more with loads of drama in between he left her got his own place but again family, church and his children had him yo yoing with his decisions.
I could not take the strain of it and ended the relationship and he went back home, we have limited contact he tells me that he still loves me very much and has sacraficed himself for his children and his wife is aware of how he feels.
I am broken, he is on my mind everyday of every minute so.... my advice to everyone dont do it.
I pray to God to give me the strength to get through each day.

Amanda
May 6, 2008 11:20 AM

I have been married to my hubby for two years. We are both young (24) we new each other only 6 weeks before we got married. I got pregnant two months after that. He had a girlfriend when I met him but I didn't find out right away and she was 7 months pregnant and he left her for me (shouldn't expect much from him huh). We have had a really miserable marriage and it is still that way today. January of this year I found out he had been cheating on me with a really trashy waitress that he met working on the road. The day I found out he told me he wanted me to leave. We lived in Kentucky at the time I am from Georgia. So I packed my daughters and left. He continued seeing this girl who was almost twice his age. He even spent his daughters first b-day with this girl. Well a month later he wanted me to come back, and I did like an idiot. I have been back for 4 months now and I am miserable just the same as I was before. He treats me bad, he is never happy he leaves for work two hours early everyday just to get away. Well there is a guy that I met 4 years ago at work. I FELL IN LOVE WITH HIM. But he was married and I am still in love with him he basically lived with me for three months. It was a very passionate sexual relationship. I still love him but can't find him I honestly believe if I would have found I would have never came home I do know that he is divorced now. But I want to let that go and make things work with my husband be cause I love him to very much. But I get the feeling that he doesn't care if I live or die. What should I do????

Heather
May 6, 2008 8:44 PM

I want to thank you so much for this article on unheladalthy relationships..I just ended one with my boss.
I mean we got along so great that customers at out work thought we was married.I mean when we would go out after work and have a beer it would be the best time of my life. I mean I owed him alot because he helped me get over my ex-boyfriend wheich at that time I needed it really bad. He helped show me that I deserve to be with someone who treated me with respect. I mean when we went to Ohio on a business trip together, which his wife couldnt even know I was riding with him, he could of tried something both nights in our hotel room but he didnt. I mean besides a very nice back massage and he really enjoyed it he didnt try anything.

BECKY J PATE
May 7, 2008 9:43 AM

Heather, I sympathize with you & the others. I am not trying to 'be mean' but do you realize that almost every statement you made, started with the words, I mean? Very distracting from the message you were trying to convey. Take care & best of luck to all. I have been on the other side of the emotional affair. My husband was very involved & it nearly destroyed 2 families. Ruined our health & 30 years of trust, down the tubes.

Alice H. S.
May 7, 2008 10:34 AM

This is for anyone out there that is thinking of having just a friendship relationship. Pray, stop & think. It is not worth it. You will not only be hurting yourself, but all those around you and if this relationship is with someone that is married, you will destroy all those involved. It would be great if only the 2 people that got involved got hurt, but it is devastating to see the hurt and the harm it causes everyone else indirectly and I do not mean only family members but friends, aquaintences and sometimes the whole community. I currently have a person that makes it a point to come into my job and has offered me his friendship, but I have lived a living hell by a so called friendship relationship that my husband started and it ended up with him having a child out of the so called "friendship relationship". How can any one be dumb enough to think that a "friendship relationship" can be started and it not end up in something more. So be WARNED and BEWARE.

A.H.S.

silvana
May 7, 2008 11:22 AM

Amanda, You are young, you have two beautiful daughters: Start all over again. Please, do a favor to yourself and dump that thing you have for a husband. You won´t lose much. He is no good for your self steem, and years of this treatment will only make you feel worthless.

Life can be different you know? I have a great husband, three daughters, and people always tell me how lucky I am. Most people suppose I am mean, he is good, and sometiems I ve been called a witch for being too hard on him. Poor him. Right.

I am telling you, luck has nothing to do with my marriage. I have educated my husband for 15 years now, hard work. And yes, I defend my space and put him in his place vehemently when he deserves it, and thank god for that. We have and even relationship, and he knows the day it doesn´t work that way, I am out the door. I do not want to be in a second class relationship, getting two drops of love every month,forget that. And neither should you for that matter. Where do you get this "kick-me please" attitude anyway? We all had horribel childhoods (well most of us) and if you haven´t resolved those issues is time to do it now. Counseling is a must for people with low self steem. I go to counseling and it is great.

And if you don´t take control of your life and dignity for your sake (why wouldn´t you????) listen to this: Your daughters are watching you, and learning this submissive behavior (arg!)so they will grow up taking BS from their husbands too. Is that what you want for them???

Your husband sounds like a master jerk. Please, act a little bit like a Maddonna type, and go ahead and feel free to kick him in the butt and dump him. This is what I wish for you: Raise your chin, smile, walk with confidence, say goodbye to the trash and hello to a new life.

S.R.

Anonymous
May 7, 2008 11:54 AM

I was emotionally involved with a co-worker. We were "Just Friends" for a long time, then we kissed... He was married with, at the time, one daughter and another on the way. My relationship with my husband was already disintegrating, for so many other reasons... I fell hard. With in 3 months my husband had left, he said "I know we've had problems, but you always were willing to try, to work on US. You haven't for months and I found someone who does." At that point my other relationship moved past kissing. I told myself the small part of my "Friend's" life I had was enough. Well, 3 years later, he had 2 daughters and a son, and no intention of ever being more for me. I was hospitalized for minor emergency surgery (kidney stones) and I called him. I needed him. His wife was there so he hung up on me. I realized he could never give me a partnership. It took some work, some counseling, but two years later I am in a healthy relationship with someone who is always there for me and my kids. The kicker is this... I still work with my "Friend" and see him every day, at one point, during some remodeling, we had to share an office for two months. It still hurts, not like before, but how did I let myself do that? Why did I value myself so little? I wish I had never let it get started and would advise ANYONE to really care for your boundries, and to make a determined focus of putting your love and caring and emotional effort into a real relationship.

Glenda
May 7, 2008 5:11 PM

I find it hard to believe that Beyond Blue had an emotional affair with an engineer. They are for the most part without a clue as to what a woman needs.(emotionally)

Best way to keep from having your heart broken in my opinion is to stay away from unavailable men even if they say they are in an unhappy marriage. Getting involved with a married man like that only heightens the problems he is having at home with his wife. The wife needs emotional support at home as well as physical intimacy.

I was married for 17 and 1/2 years to an alcoholic husband and now have been married again to a new person for almost 5 years so I know what challenges the married partners go through.

Take it for what it's worth. If you have a good marriage then appreciate it. If not...do WHATEVER you can to make it the BEST it can be...God will do the rest.

GMAN
May 7, 2008 8:10 PM

YOU DONT ADDRESS THE BIGGEST ON OF ALL..I JUST LOST MY LOVE OF 31/2 YRS TO MYSPACE..I FOUND HER ON LINE ALL THE TIME .."DOING HOMEWORK".TIL 2 AM ..NOT COMING TO BED..WE EACH USED TO SHARE EMAILS LITTLE I LOVE YOUS DURING THE DAY..THEN MY SPACE GOT SET TO PRIVATE AND I WAS ON THE OUTSIDE.. I THEN GOT FALSELY ACCUSE OF PLANNING AN AFFAIR FOR A BUSINESS SEMINAR I WAS TO TAKE HER ON-LIKE I ALWAYS DID- AND REALIZED I WAS BEING PUSHED TO END IT SO SHE COULD LEAVE WITH A CLEAR CONSCIENCE IN HER OWN MIND...BUT I HAD NO CHOICE B/C WHEN I TOLD HER IT WAS OVER B/C THE TRUST WAS OVER SHE DIDNT SO MUCH AS WHIMPER "LET S TALK THIS OUT LIKE B4".
.....SURE ENOUGH,WITHIN 2 WEEKS OF HAVING GOTTEN MY LAST EMAIL ABOUT WANTING TO SPEND HER LIFE WITH ME SHE WAS BRAGGING AND SHOWINIG PICTURES TO MUTUAL FRIENDS HOW SHE D BAGGED AND BEDDED A TROPHY SEX WITH SOMEONE 8 RS HER JUNIOR FROM....MYSPACE..
...EMOTIONAL AFFAIRS ARE DEADLY TO RELATIONSHIPS..IT S TEH ELEMENT THAT MAKES THE PHYSICAL ONE A BETRAYAL..AND WHEN THE TRUST LEAVES IT NEVER NEVER COMES BACK..AND ITS SUCH A WASTE..LOOK AT YOUR POSTS-WHO IS HAPPY THEY DID IT?WHAT ISSUES DID IT RESOLVE?DID IT SIMPLIFY OR COMPLICATE THINGS? WHAT A WASTE.

Friendly
May 7, 2008 11:43 PM

I am in this situation and have decided to let it run its course. I keep thinking there is a reason this happened, although we both know and acknowledge it is wrong.

bayee
May 8, 2008 12:01 PM

I am amazed that so many of you are and have been involved in so many situations as this. Why would you want someone or get involved with someone who you probably know will never leave his spouse? If your marriage is in jeopardy, why not try to fix your problems with your marriage instead of breaking up someone elses? You are trying to make yourself happy a few times with another partner while provoking and breaking up another marriage just to make you smile. You think you really know people , but really you don't!!! Your friends can be your worse enemy... Men and women are too hot for only sex and relationships and are not worried about their marriages and childrens lives. They think only of themselves and what they want in life....... When you get married, you accepted those vows, it is time that you set and live by them and leave other people alone and out of it.............

paws
May 8, 2008 4:43 PM

I'm reading up all I can on affairs of any type. I agree emotional affairs are really dangerous. I am in a marriage myself where I have caught my husband having conversations, looking at other women's pictures and responding to personal ads. I am a strong believer that if my husband truly repents and learns from all of this - it wouldnt happen again. He knows he has to rebuild my trust in him.

Whatever happens, go to God and allow him guide you in what to do when you're confronted with an affair or with a spouse that's having an affair.

Unfortunately, we as a society today do not know how to upkeep the marriage vows that we say on the wedding day and maintain it for the life of the marriage. We can not always take the easy way out. I am speaking from experience myself. My ex husband cheated on me and got that woman pregnant. He asked for the divorce and I granted it because I couldnt live with the knowledge that he got another woman pregnant when I am personally unable to get pregnant myself.

My husband is very different from my ex husband so all solutions are not the same for every marriage. Just try what works the best for you and always include God in your marriage.

Not sure what to feel
May 8, 2008 8:16 PM

I'm having somewhat of an emotional affair. I fight with myself all the time and not for fear of hurting my husand but disappointing GOD.

I've been with my husband for five years and he has cheated on me twice. I got over it, tried everything to keep my marriage together. Made some changes with in myself and that still wasn't good enough. I believe I made a mistake marrying my husband but I don't regret, wierd I know. But that's how I feel.

Didn't think I would ever have feelings for another man as long as I was married. But then it happened. He met a guy they became friends. When he came to the house for the first time instantly their was a connection. I finally told the friend that I liked him. Never touched him or had a real conversation with him but he was the first man I thought about in the morning and the last. But now we seem to be developing something. I have haven't been in love with my husband for 3yrs of the 5yrs we've been together. I gringe when he touches me. I don't like having relations with him, and when we do I just want it to be over with. I have three kids and the youngest is ours. Right now I need him but I haven't wanted him in a long time. I just don't know what to feel but I do know that I could easily give this friend my heart and be happy about it. I guess my biggest problem right now that I truly could use some advice on..... I don't feel guilty at all.

DawnD13
May 8, 2008 11:32 PM

The timing of this is amazing--my nephew is going through the breakup of his marriage which he suspects is as a result of his wife's "emotional affair" with a married neighbor. It is devastating to see the havoc this type of behavior has on the "cheat-ee" and children. Clearly, there are issues underlying all of this and it saddens me to see how blind the "cheat-er" to those issues. Marriage takes a lot of work, but when an "interloper" sticks their nose in for selfish reasons and ends up destroying a family, most of all the innocent children.

Thank you all for your posts because I can now understand that this is not such an isolated incident and that some of you "lived to tell" your tale. I will check out some of the resources for some helpful suggestion for my poor nephew.

Synthia
May 9, 2008 11:49 PM

Hi,

Before I can talk I need to know if the comments will be sent to my email. I really hope not.

TONI
May 12, 2008 12:08 PM

I want to say that all men are dogs and they lie to us woman and I want to say that once a cheater always a cheater. I had an affair with a married man for three years and I loved hime with all my heart and soul but I ended it.Not every man is truthful and I wasnt the only affair he had.He had numerouse affairs on his wife sonya pike ellsworth. But she dosn't know the whole truth because if she did she would hang him out to dry .The man I had an affair for three years was kermit james pike the third of monson mass.I want you ladies out their to wake up and smell the coffe because if they do it once they will do it again and again.They never tell you the whole truth only what you want to here.With that to say I think the truth is the best policy and you cant act like it never happened.Kermit even purpossed to me and moved in with me for a month.now his wife don't even know that.For her sake I hope the truth will one day come to her and realizes she married a gade a DOG. I was not only his mistress but I was the second wife whom he sent on arrands to the grocery store and to the pharmacy.so it takes to to tango and I'm sorry I slept with her husbend 2;697 times but it was the best love I ever had and we even went to three funurals toghter and he paid all my bills about tenthousand of them. and no I'm not sorry for that.You are all dumfounded I know but we are not just mistresses we are the woman who eventually take youre place.Dont blame us blame Your husbands for telling us they arn't married.So with all do respect wake up woman and hang the men out to dry because that's all they are good for so long

carly
May 13, 2008 8:10 AM

toni would you not be afraid these people will read their names in your letter. i think women sleep with men far too easily without even knowing their name. women have to have respect for themselves and not allow themselves to be used. to know you are used is a huge blow to integrity and confidence. men just dont care and will use you for sex and then tell you to fxxx off

Synthia
May 15, 2008 6:00 PM

Hi,

I need someone to talk to me about this really stupid thing I did. First of all, I have been screwing this married guy (Matt) for three months now and I am also married. For some really stupid reason I don't know why I did this I have never cheated on my husband before this is the first and I hope the last. Then for a while I had noticed that Matt was trying to flirt his way into this young lady's pants so I take it upon myself to write this lady's husband a confidential letter stating that his wife was flirting and sleeping with this married man hoping she would receive the letter but it began to eat at me because it didn't seem right so I called the lady up and went to her house and met with her and her husband and told them what I did needless to say they were pist i mean very pist with me. The husband of this lady to begin with thought his wife really was sleeping with Matt. He and She both thought I was f#$@#@# crazy. I may be right now all I know is that the stress and anxiety of sleeping with this guy and how it made me feel I honestly didn't want her to go through the same thing. Then the lady's husband calls Matt's wife and tells her what I did and I kind of admitted to her that I had been screwing Matt. She did beleive a word ( of course) and she thought I was $#@#@ crazy. Finally the laady's husband tells me to get out so I leave and that is where I am at. The whole time I have been screwing Matt it was nothing more than that. We would meet in the Hospital parking lot where we work and screw in my van or we would screw in his department which is Lab in his supply closet during work.

Someone please help me. is this fling really f#@@# my head up?

Michael Harrington
May 17, 2008 5:16 AM

I like that someone involved with the public is not affraid to say they are Catholic(practicing I hope?!)

Marta
May 17, 2008 11:29 AM

This is too easy.

1. If you are married, BE married. That means adhering to your VOWS.

2. If you are attracted to someone who is married, STOP. Nothing, I repeat NOTHING, should interfere in a marriage. If they are having problems, let them work it out or separate. Don't try to be the agent for change, because if they do leave their spouse for you, isn't it just as easy to imagine them leaving you?

3. If your spouse is cheating on you, tell them to LEAVE. Be a doormat and you will always be a doormat. If you are staying for security or self-esteem, you have GOT TO learn to have that independent of another person. Knowing you can make it on your own makes staying that much more meaningful and less pitiful.

4. If you have kids, for God's sake put them first. That means always making decisions that you can be proud of, that your kids can learn from, and that do not undermine their own self-esteem. Every decision we make models for our children what they should expect from their own lives. Put up with garbage because you don't think you deserve better, and you will either have a child who treats others like garbage or one who expects to be treated like garbage.

I have been married for 18 years and have been faithful since the day I met my husband. I have absolute confidence that he has been faithful to me (he feels even more strongly about the sanctity of marriage vows), but even if I found myself alone I KNOW that I could take care of myself and have the confidence in who I am to back it up. I have two teenage children, both of whom would not tolerate being lied to or mistreated by friends, and they have stayed clear of risky behaviors - there is SUCH a connection between low self-esteem and these kinds of behaviors.

I am amazed at the number of people (mostly women which is so disheartening) who will put up with almost anything from their partner because they don't think they deserve better or don't know how to function on their own. NO ONE is in charge of your life except for YOU!

Daniel Wilson
May 17, 2008 2:25 PM

Marta (and all faithful spouses),

Congratulations on 18 years of monogamy. I applaude your comment. I've been married for 7 years and I love my wife, I will never cheat on her and I know she won't cheat on me either. I've been told that I'm a good-looking guy and get hit on by ladies with my wedding ring in full view. One lady at work blows kisses at me as she walks by my door and calls me 'Baby'. I'm attracted to other women of course but I know that I'll never sleep with them so I've never been tempted to taste any of what was available to me even though I was unavailable myself. I do fantasize about some of these attractions though, wondering what it could have been like had I been single, and I know I should not. But I do admit my weaknesses (suppressed dog instincts) to my wife and I feel that she understands my human imperfections. She's told me not to be too hard on myself because she trusts me.

If you know that you are not going to change your player ways, man or woman, then you should not get married. Too many idiots cheat, get caught, lose everything, then wonder what possessed them (a 5 minute nut cost them everything). Cheating on your spouse is the ultimate in disrespect. If you do get married knowing that you'll probably cheat one day and then you do cheat, they should flog you publicly like they used to back in the old days. You didn't have to get married, just like you didn't have to sample that young, succulent freak that was showing you all her stuff. Claiming that you couldn't control yourself is a cop out (weak, sorry, piece of dirt that you are).

Daniel Wilson - Committed to the sanctity of marriage as God defines it.

salve
May 17, 2008 5:01 PM

My situation is not worth mentioning here because Im soo ashamed of what Im feeling right now. My husband, a serial cheater left me and my children more than a year now. I've moved on and lead a normal life with my grown up children. It didn't came to my mind that one day I would be entangled in another bothering situation. I learned to like this guy, much much younger than me, lets say half of my age. I don't understand how to enterpret the way he treats me which lead me to like him. I don't know if this is really his nature or did I just misinterpret the way he treats me. What Im sure is I like him, I miss him if I don't see him and he helps me forget my problems. I get jealous silently when he mentions his GF who is in a far-away place. Few days back, I was upset when he gave his attetion to this very young colleague, when I went home I cried my heart out. I don't want to be in love with him because of our age gap, as if Im seeing the preview of what's gonna happen when we will have a relationship, I will get insecured with his age-group which can not be avoided. Most of all I don't even know if he likes me,too. I don't want to suffer again in the name of love, but should I just suppress this feeling to avoid getting hurt. I need your comments, thank you

confused
May 22, 2008 9:19 PM

Could someone out there please explain to me why some men like to cheat on their wife. I know this guy at work who is married and he told some of his guy friends that he would have sex with any nice looking girl that would give it to him. AND HE'S MARRIED!! Why would he do this and why does his wife stay with him. They have been divorced because he left her then they got back together. I don't understand.

okehie jane chinyere
May 26, 2008 6:13 AM

Am really impressed with your comments but would like to say that we should look out for clues to all these infidelity as sometimes the signs are very evident before marriage. We should not enter into marriage relationship out of simpathy. I think before marriage such an issue should be discussed. The couple should know the causes and ways of avoiding it. More importantly we should not rush into marriage.
For couples they should not allow any communication gap to exist in their relationship.

Human After all.
May 26, 2008 7:34 AM

I have been married for 27 years and although our marriage has seen the valleys and the peeks of life, love and lust, with hindsight I would not have it otherwise. We have learnt and grown so much throughout and ultimately have become who we are through our experiences. I can honestly admit that there have been times of temptation to stray within these years as we are after all only human. However, the realisation and reality of consequences versus the deed has to be weighed up and accepted. I would not want my marriage to ever fall apart and neither would my husband, yet neither of us have been "saints". I have not had sex with another man throughout my marriage, but I have given in to a stolen moment once or twice. It was a rush to say the least, but the guilt of what I was about to embark on drove me nuts. Guilt as we know is the most useless of human emotions and therefore, should we give in to human failings at any time, learn from it and move on as a more informed, better controlled and a more understanding human being.
Nobody has the right to stand on judgement seat when it comes to other's shortcomings. We are all just human after all.

JF
May 26, 2008 9:53 AM

I appreciate the comments, especially the judgemental and damning ones. Thank God for the Grace of God.

lost1969
May 26, 2008 10:19 AM

What if you were really meant to be together? I just reconnected with an old boyfriend after about 15 years. I've realized that at the time we dated, I was struggling with some deep emotional issues that I have been able to come to terms with after years of therapy. I married my husband because he was safe and a great friend. But, my passion is still with my former boyfriend, and has continued to be over the last 15 years. He is now married, but feels the same, that he married a "safe" person and that he, too, never stopped thinking of me. Could it be that now that we are more mature and have been through therapy, that we are now ready to be together?

confused
May 27, 2008 7:46 AM

what are some ways to know when a man is trying to get you to sleep with him? I fell for this once and I have tried to look back and learn from my mistake and all I see is that he was just goofing off with me by just playing. I really don't want this to ever happen again because I love my husband of 19 years very much and I love my boys. I still look back and don't understand how it happen I would really like to know some signs to look for and what I need to avoid or either change the way I talk or kid around with men.

dabbler
May 27, 2008 11:12 PM

I read this with great interest. I've been married 21 years and have two children, 20 & 16. A few months ago a man I work with and I started an "emotional affair". It started with text messages, it continues to this day, over four months. I've known him for a few years and we always "connected". We have had some limited physical contact, nothing that involved disrobing however. I am truly enjoying this as is he I believe. My marriage? not good, and this is the FIRST time I have EVER stepped over the line. I've tried talking to my husband endlessly and he doesn't get it. I don't think he ever will. I've sort of shocked myself, I was never unfaithful. My husband had an emotional affair several years ago. My "friend" is also married and has no intentions of divorcing. He brings something to my life that was so lacking and for that I am happy. Where will this go? I don't know, sometimes I think it's just the push I need to finally divorce.

concerned
May 29, 2008 5:49 AM

The only thing I can say is if your no happy with your husband since he's not living up to his part than go ahead and get a divorce. Is the other guy that your having the emotional affair with married? if so he needs to decide first about his marriage.

Anonymous
June 2, 2008 9:05 AM

i was on the other end someone was in love with my husband. He did a nice thing for her and she became dependent on him. It is horrible, it made me miserable and consumed me as well. It is selfish, destructive and hurts relationships and friendships.

albett
June 2, 2008 11:11 AM

As a man I can say we would always try sweet talk our way to get a woman, I am married just had an affair and got caught woman was much younger than me. She would always say the same things that you've talked about. She would feel we are soul mates and I would confirm that, but in the end we realize that we can never be together cause I have kids and she is young and single. For the lady who have a emotinal affair with his office mate, nobody is worth lossing your family, as you said you are just missing some feed back from your husband, since you know the problem work on it. This is probably the best effort that you will do to make your life better, chating and text massaging is fun but this will not make your life better aslo consider all the people that both of you are going to hurt. It is not worth it, you will regret it for the rest of your life if you break your family.

concerned
June 10, 2008 8:21 PM

How do you handle men, in my case, when they are married yet they try to sweet talk you into doing whatever they want. I had an affair with this married man and first it started out like we were good friends and then he showed up one day at the place I like to walk everyday. I was shocked then next thing I new we were sleeping together. Some of my male friends tell me that I will always have men wanting to sleep with me because of how good I look. Why!!!!

Thereese Maddox
June 12, 2008 10:32 AM

I have been in an unhealthy marriage for 9 years. I caught my husband cheating a few times, had verbal altercations with his lovers. My thing is that I have 3 kids with this man and it seems like he is unhappy in the relationship, but when I would leave his personality would change; it is like he is a different person. At the beginning of the relationship we saw marriage counselor (PHD) and she suggested that he has some mental issues. I know I took vows in sickness and health, but he is making me SICK; I almost die 3 times since being with him. If he does not care the family enough to get help because he is hurting us, why should I work on the marriage?

Angela
June 25, 2008 12:14 AM

Absolutely no relationship is worth working on if both individuals are not equally willing. Heartache and disppointment are almost always sure.

lou, ct.
June 25, 2008 7:10 AM

i had a friend affair i guess you could call it, the texting/chatting and the feeling that you talked to someone that made you feel all better, and i lied to my wife about it because i did it before for a very short time, and gave this women my phone number, she texted me about sex, and my wife read it, nothing ever happend between us, but the damage was done..we went to counselling, and we got threw it with her forgivness,, about 7 months after that , i got myself into another friend affair, and started the lieing all over again,, she was a younger women ,,married with kids,, all we did wss talk about our problems, and how nice it would be if there were non,, the little flirtyness would go on, but nothing would ever happen,, then she had some problems with her mom, and we stopped texting for a while,, when i went on vaction with my wife, i texted her hoping all was well, and that i was on vacation with my wife,,,, well my wife found out about all these texts and , and that i texted her on our vacation, she confronted me, and asked if i was talking to this person, or texting because she texted me merry xmass, and i lied about it back then,, i came clean and told her it was just a friend, well she is rite, if she is just a friend then why the secreacy? why kiss her good bye in the morning and text her as soon as i left..all im sayuing here is that the texting , the computor is a very bad place to be,, it is that evil place, were you get lured in, and hooked, it is like a drug,, one that wont kill you, but will kill your marriage,, i love my wife with all my being, heart and soul,, i would die for her in the blink of an eye with out even a thought ,,,the person inside me that did this to my wife is a monster, one i intend on getting rid of,, i just want all you men/women to stay away from the chat rooms, the texting, all it is the devils dens,, it is evil. and now my marriage is probably over for lieing, desiving and breaking my vows,, remember it feels good while your texting, but feels ugly when you realized that you broke the heart of the one that loves you the most,,,,im going back to counsulling for myself,, because i need it for me,, i am going to break this mosters back, and be an advocate to help others,,and if you find it in your heart ,, please pray for my wife, that her heart will heal,, thank you..

Claudia Ayala
June 25, 2008 10:21 AM

Hi, I've been married about 12yrs and in those 12 yrs i've lived with him 8yrs, the reason for this is he was allways cheatting on me. so I stayed in the marrige, at first I thought I could change him, then I thoght maybe he cheatts because im not young enough ,maybe because I let myself go, there were allways excusses why it was allways my fault because I was too protective of him ,how I wasn't giving him enough space, and when I gave enough he still cheatted.well his last affair ended because he was going to be deported, and I spoke up in court so that he could stay.Everything chaged after that he changed but not in the sense that he was more Loving ,It was more like Im here now to take care of our 12yr old daughter and thats how it feels we have sex we do not make love anymoore ,I don't know know If we ever did ,I tell my daughter we did when we maide her, so the moral of this story is what goes around ,comes around, when we are together it's allmost like he doesn't enjoy it like it's a job. so it pains me know to halftoo admitt ,that I too am having an affair with a married man, we don't Love each other, I do It for what He doesn't give me and he does it for the same reason. He totally satisfies me sexually but I still feel like im cheatting, not on him but on my daughter. I still love my husband thought if u can still bealieve it.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

brock
June 25, 2008 11:25 AM

Hi, ive been married 15 years, about a year ago my wife made a "guy friend" and at first i was ok with it because i had complete and total trust in her. a few months ago i started getting worried, I followed her a few times and started checking her phone to see how many times a day she called him. when she realized i was doing that she started erasing call logs from her phone and saying it was because she knew it made me sad and didnt want to do that to me. and that he was only someone to talk to. so last week i started recording phone conversations, and when i listened, the girl i heard on the phone with him was the happy cheery fun girl i married 15 years ago not the wife and mother of two that i talk to every day. I was destroyed.Thats the person ive been asking her to be for me for months.After a day of recovery i told her that she needed to end the "friendship" or i could not stay. she agreed, then i let her hear the recordings and she cried alot and told me she could not forgive herself for betraying me that she never wanted him for anything more than a friend, that she didnt mean to say bad things about me to him, that it was just conversation. I then tried to explain that this was an emhotional affair that would probably would have became pysical in time. Shes says theres no way that she knows it was friens only. I just dont know how to convince her that this was an unhealthy friendship and that im not just being a jerk about her having a friend.so what do now?......

kim
June 25, 2008 12:52 PM

I HAVE NOT CHEATED ON MY HUSBAND , BUT I WISH HE WOULD SHOW MORE LOVE FOR ME AND GIVE TIME , WE SLEEP IN SEPERATE BED ROOMS , I JUST DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO . PLEASE IF YOU HAVE ANY ADVISE FOR ME LET ME KNOW .

christina andrade
June 25, 2008 6:05 PM

hi i have been with my husbend for 6 yrs now and he has lied about alot of thing .. but when it came to me i have not .. he had told me that i could not have a guy friends cause all guy want is one thing .so i did not have any one to talk with now but i was getting on here alot and got i guyfriend we have been friend for like 1 yr now and notthing has happend yet i have met him and went out talk on the phone etc.. so i guess guys can be friends with a women .. so now how do i tell my husbend about him ??????????

A.A
June 25, 2008 7:11 PM


I've been married for 21 yrs and had an affair shortly after our 19 yr of marriage. The man I gave my heart to was a very well respected principal at a H.S. He was married as well and his wife worked at one of our campuses. He and his wife were well known at the church they attended...A holy man and the perfect couple so people thought. Our relationship started when he began sending me e-mails on how good I was doing at my job(I was the AP at the school). I didn’t get it at first and was confused. He began calling me and telling me there was a void in his life. I still didn’t get it. I would tell him to take his wife out, go bowling, take a walk, find a hobby etc... His response was don't you get it's you...I'm in love with you.
At that time my marriage was not at it's strongest point and well I fell for it. He asked me out to lunch asked to hold my hand and it was a rollercoaster ride from there. I fell head over heels for him, willing to give up everything I had to spend the rest of my life with him. First he said he had to wait for his daughter to graduate so we can make our move. Then it was he was having a grand-baby and had to wait for that. Then it was we would have to get other jobs because of what people would say at work. Well we both lost our jobs because of the affair so now what...WELL...Then it was he was waiting for a sign from God. How can I question that one...He would tell me so many things like; he loved me and not his wife, he could not live without me, I was his soul mate you know all the lines men give to get what they want. Well things got really ugly his wife found out and he told her I was a mistake that he loved her and he would never talk to me again... What ever,,, he continued to contact me and I him. I finally got tired of his lies and spoke to his wife and told her all the I love you's, I miss you's,I need you's he told me.
To make it short. He, his wife and I ended up on the phone trying to clear up who was telling the truth. He lied over and over and denied everything, made me a fool... I felt as if I was on trial and lost.
He put on a great show it was very hurtful. I thought that this time he would own up to his words and tell his wife that he was in love with me and wanted to spend the rest of his life with me. Oh boy was I a fool. The sad part of it all is that I still love him think about him night and day. I want to get over him and pray every night for this to happen. I pray for his wife to be strong hopfully live a life full of joy, with or without him. I don't think this is the first time he has done this sort of thing as I look back on things now, even though he told me he had never done this before.
Please pray for me. I have asked for forgivness from God and from his wife. I pray for him as well, what else can I do.


Charlene
June 25, 2008 8:20 PM

Has anyone encountered their other half (twin soul/twin flame) and had a difficult time breaking away? Thanks,Peace - Charlene

Chasity
June 25, 2008 9:12 PM

I have a question for anyone who can answer this. I have been married going on 6yrs and my husband and I have been having real trouble with our marriage on and off. It started off with family enterfering, now it is his job he sales cabinets and also designs them as well, he works Mon. - Sun. sometimes he gets two days off if he is lucky. When he is home he helps around the house sometimes. Most of the time he goes out to the store or he saids paying bills and leaves me home with the three young kids that we have.He leaves us home all the time. He won't talk to me but he talks to others, I find out things through them. I have told him about this, and we are getting counseling but it ends up my fault.
I want to save our marriage, What can I do?

gaby brambila
June 25, 2008 9:42 PM

hello my name is gaby im 27 i live in los angeles california i live with my boyfriend for the past 14yr we have 4 kids. we dont really have any comunication i get to go out some times not dath i want but my 1 and only girl friend i have invites me out to eat. but im alone all day at home im in my room. i live with my mom and family but i cant go out if i dont have my mom with me and if i do my family will say im out with a nother guy like today i have a date with my girlfriend but my boyfiend is mad reason becuased im living at night i go out at night like dath my kids are in bed but agen he is mad at me saying im goin out with some guy i love him but i have no freedom if i go out in the morning they get mad at night they all get mad they all are my family and boyfriend so all i have is my computer but then they get mad at me any thing i do i feel like i need help pleased hell me

Shirl Rhoades
June 25, 2008 9:45 PM

Wow! One thing's for sure...after reading these comments, I feel even better about my relationships with male coworkers and especially my husband. I guess you could say that this is how to AVOID AN AFFAIR!

We've been married for 19 years now and it hasn't always been peaches and cream. There were years of mistrust, lies and deceit on his part, while I began to become depressed and numb. What helped me to regain my sanity in all of that was being true to myself. No matter how hurt I felt or how insecure I felt, I knew deep inside me that I was a good person and that I could not and would not let someone else, including my husband, dictate whom I was to be. I realized that he was who he was for whatever reason and that had very little to do with me. It was a hard realization and I sludged through the mud of feelings for years. so instead of focusing on his baggage, I decided to go through all of mine, one by one!

Then one day, my husband came in and confessed everything! I thought I had known it all. I had no clue! He poured his heart out and in that moment, I realized just how wounded and lonely he was and had been since he was a child. I finally saw that it wasn't my fault and that I had been a good wife and mother and that I hadn't deserved all of that. Then he confessed to the entire family, including our children and set out on a path of self-discovery and healing. THIS WAS VERY HEALING FOR ME. He allowed me the time to feel and heal and grow. It was not easy for either of us! We began to really learn who we were together and apart and we fell in love all over again!For the first time in my marriage, I RESPECTED MY MAN!

In the past, during his affairs, I NEVER had male friends at work! Now, I have several and they all come to me for real, serious advice and conversation. They admire my husband for his growth and comment regularly that we were meant to be together. We discuss pretty much everything about relationships without going too deep or too far. In other words, when I am engaged in a conversation with them about their wives, I ask, "Have you discussed this with your wife yet?" If they say no, then I reply, "Don't you think she deserves to know this before me? She is that important, right?" Immediately, I let them know that she is the queen and I am merely a court jester. Do not confuse us! This is how we remain respectful of one another as well as our significant others. When I compliment their wives and initiate talk of them, they immediately know that I am respecting their marriages and partnerships. Even when I am not having a great day with my spouse, I NEVER discuss this with them, as they it IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS!

Emotional and physical affairs occur all around us at the workplace, I have learned alot about myself, as well as relationships and I value the lessons that life has given me. I understand and respect my husband and all men even more now.

Veronica
June 25, 2008 11:25 PM

Well this is the first time that I say this to anyone else, but God of course. I had an affair with my sisters boyfriend. I know, I know,, how bad is that? It all started when I was encouraging him to go to church to get his life together. He had struggled for many years with drug addiction and I will give him advice and verses to read so he can get encouraged and turn his life around and place it in God's hands. For years he told me how much he admired me because I'm the only "different one" from my family. None of my 10 brothers or sisters are saved and for years I've repeatedly invited them to church, but they have no interest. (That's only temporarily though). Anyway, he started going to church and about 6 months later he told me that he was in love with me. I was stunned because deep down inside I felt something so deeply for him from probably 1 year before. I didn't say anything and he started calling my job, taking food, flowers, etc. I told him that it was impossible for us to ever be together because he's been with my sister for 8 years at that time and I had been with my husband over 12 years. He kept on insisting that we were soulmates and that his #1 prayer was for us to be together. I felt so great and guilty at the same time he would tell me hese things. I really felt I loved him. Nobody had ever made me feel like he did. He has a lot of emotional healing that he needed to deal with at the time and I was there to help him through a lot. He even told his friends and family members about me. He told them that he wants to marry me one day. I started having an affair with him by secretly meeting him places and trying to spend every spare moment I had with him. I was already deciding on leaving my husband for him, but then I stopped. I told him that we could no longer speak or see eachother because everything I was doing was "MY OWN WILL" I didn't let God lead me in anything. I started missing church, wasn't in any ministry anymore and that's when I asked God for forgiveness after like 100 times and I told Him that I really wanted to do "HIS WILL NOT MINE." I still think soooooo much about him (everyday), but I know one thing that if I'm totally obedient to God I will be blessed for the rest of my days. That's what I want to be right with God and nothing else should matter, right?
Please write me back and tell me what you think???
Thank you!

Rose
June 26, 2008 12:14 AM

I am sorry this is not a comment. I need someone to talk to about the
guy am in love with. He is everything i love about a man he's very nice,he's a very hard worker and he also go to school we donot spend
alot of time together because of work and school. But when the weekend
come he is still working and if i need help with a bill he donot have
a problem helping me the only problem i have with this man is that when someone upset him he will not talk to me he will not call me and he will not answer any of my calls and it hurts me really bad and i get depress i won't eat or go out i just stay home and think about how
much i want to be with this man. I really want to marry him some day
but if he feel he can't talk to me when ever he have a problem then
what am i suppose to do. When the first time we met that night i had
a dream about him and i getting married and every time i dream about
this man it's always good dreams and i always say to myself this is the man God wants me to marry am really confused please help me if you can.
God Bless and Thank you

FlyAwayLittleBird
June 26, 2008 5:25 AM

To GABY BRAMBILA,

Take EVERYTHING you can and RUN!

Talk about CONTROL FREAKS!

You're 27 years old!

MOVE OUT and LIVE YOUR LIFE!

DON'T LET THEM CONTROL YOU! BE FREE!

Don't commit yourself to a living hell!

GO FIND HAPPINESS!!!!!!

Help Gaby
June 26, 2008 5:36 AM

EVERYONE! Listen, I know her writing is hard to understand, but Gaby is 27 years old. She lives with her mom, family, boyfriend of 14 years, and her 4 children. They are controlling her life. They don't let her leave the house. Whenever she goes out with her only girl friend, her family lies and says that she was out with a guy, and they all yell at her.


Please give her any advice you can.

Tell her what you would tell your friend or relative if they were in this situation.

Lauren
June 26, 2008 5:59 AM

Dear Gaby,

I live in Houston and I had a good friend, who lived with her sister, aunt, grandma, and great-grandma. Her family was very controlling, and she wasn't able to go anywhere without taking her sister along.

A year before she was supposed to graduate from high school she ran away with her boyfriend to Corpus Christi. They live together now, and just had a baby girl. I believe she is happy now.

However, I do wish that she had finished high school. In the future things will be difficult for them financially because she never got a high school diploma.

Follow your happiness. Try to get an education and/or a good job. There is a good company you can work for in Santa Barbara. You can find them by searching for Bargain Network, Adaptive Marketing, or Vertrue. It's all part of the same company. They pay pretty well, especially if you can speak English and Spanish fluently. But you HAVE to have a high school diploma or a G.E.D.

If you're really desperate, but unable to take your chidren with you, GO anyway. They should be okay with family for a little while, if not permanently. Once you have a steady job and a place to live, you can get them back, with legal help if you have to. Don't think that things have to be this way. You have a RIGHT to want a BETTER LIFE for YOURSELF, if not for your children.

This is the land of the free. Make your future a happy and prosperous one. :-D


~L.R.

cubanbunny
June 26, 2008 11:11 AM

I thought an emotional affair did not involve sex. eg.. The thornbirds it was as if she was his lover, she loved him he loved her but his addiction to money was more. He valued power, money, he prostituted himself to the rich woman to find money for the church to get browney points. Finally one day he sends for her and she has his son instead of leaving the job and becoming a deacon; he lets her husband believe the baby is his. After which when he is dying she visits him she always loved him and married her husband out to try and spite him and because she thought he would leave his wife the church. She found the rich wife(church) had more pull than her even when she was sixteen or twenty years old.

But originally normally emoptional affair does not involve sex. Thats why its more painful whether the parties are married or not does not matter it can occur amongst single people as well
.

dEBORAH
June 26, 2008 11:47 AM

vERONICA,
AS I READ YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT YOUR DESIRE TO SERVE AND PLEASE GOD IT TOUCHED MY HERT BECAUSE I SENSE THAT YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN.LISTEN , YOU WANTED FEEDBACK SO LET'GET TO THE POINT. FIRST SAYING NOT ONLY DID YOU SIN AGAINST GOD YOU ALSO SINNED AGAINST YOUR HUSBAND AS WELL AS YOUR SISTER. YES! GOD DOES FORGIVE WHEN WE CONFESS OUR SINS, BUT DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT YOU COULD STILL DESTROY A FAMILY.ONE THING ABOUT ALL OF THIS IT MAY TAKE A WHILE BUT WE REAP WHAT WE SOW. HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE IT IF YOUR HUSBAND CHEATED ON YOU WITH SOMEONE SO CLOSELY RELATED TO YOU.AS FOR ME I DO KNOW ABOUT INFIDELTY FOR TWO REASONS .ONE I COMMITTED THE ACT AND BOY I AM SORRY FOR THAT.YOU CAN COMMITT ADULTREY BY TALKING TOO MUCH ON THE PHONE WITH THE OPPOSTIE SEX.I LEARNED THAT IT'S NOT MY PLACE TO CONSOLE A MAN OTHER THAN MY SPOUSE(TIP#1)EVEN WHEN OFFERING THE RIGHT ADVICE ,IT CAN LEAD TO AN EMOTIONAL AFFAIR.MEN NEVER LEAVE THEIR WIVES, IT ONLY HAPPENS AS A RESULT OF THEM GETTING CAUGHT AND THEN BEING ASKED TO LEAVE.LET ME TELL EVRYBODY THAT WITH ALL OF THE HURT I AM EXPERINCING RIGHT NOW I NEVER WANT TO BE GUILTY OF CAUSING ANYONE'S HOUSEHOLD TO BE DISRRUPTED DUE TO ME BEING INVOLEVED WITH SOME OTHER WOMAN'S MAN EVEN IF ITS HER BOYFRIEND IF THEY ARE UNDER THE SAME ROOF,IT IS WRONG. MY HUSBAND OF SOON TO BE NINETEEN YEARS HAD AN AFFAIR RIGHT IN MY FACE WITH A WOMAN FROM OUR CHURCH WHO WAS MARRIED GOT DIVORCED THEN REMARRIED, YET SHE STILL COULD DROP INTO HIS LIFE WHEN SHE HAD A NEED. ALTHOUGH MY MOTHER TRIED TO WARN ME ABOUT HER I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS UNTIL THIS YEAR AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WENT ON HE SAYS FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO. WE WERE SPECIAL SISTERS IN CHRIST. SHE IS 8 YEARS OLDER THAN THE BOTH OF US.I AM HURT AND DO FEEL BETRAYED AND CANT WAIT TO SEE HER AGAIN TO KICK HER ASS.THEY WERE RECENTLY STILL HAVING AN EMOTIONAL AFFAIR OVER THE PHONE IT WAS OVER THE PHONE ONLY BECAUSE SHE IS NOW IN A DIFFERENT STATE. I THINK HE IS WEAK BECAUSE HE ALLOWED HER TO DROP HIM THEN PICK HIM BACK UP TO TELL ABOUT THE HORRIBLE SECOND MARRAIGE. I TOLD MY PASTOR ABOUT THIS ,IT IS NTO A GOOD FEELING.WHILE I REALLY LOVE MY HUSBAND THE RELATIONSHIP WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. IT WILL EITHER GET BETTER OR WORSE RIGHT NOW I DO NOT TRUST HIM AND DONT FEEL THAT HE CAN HANDLE HIMSELF.THAT IS NOT GOOD HAVING A WEAK MAN ALTHOUGH HE APPROACHED HER SHE AS A MINISTER SHOULD HAVE PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE AND IF HE ASKED AGAIN SHE SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME. WE HAVE TO LEARN TO EXPOSE THE DEVIL,AND AS WOMEN RESPECT OTHER WOMEN WHICH WE DON'T DO THAT TOO WELL.HE DONT TAKE ME TO HOTELS BUT THEY TOOK TURNS TAKING EACH OTHER TO THE HOTEL. MEN CHEAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.WOMEN DO IT BECASUE THEY ARE EMOTIONAL AND LOVE TO HEAR SWEET NOTHINGS.I CAN GO ON ABOUT THIS UGLY PAIN THAT I AS A WOMAN FEEL SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BUILD UP YOUR TEMPLE AND RUN FROM EVIL, STAY IN YOUR PLACE AS WOMAN OF GOD BE REAL OR BE STILL.MY HUSBAND SAYS IT'S OVER HE WORKED IN THE CHURCH WHAT A HYPOCRITE, IF I HAD NOT DISCOVERED HIS CELL PHONE BILL (ONLY WHILE TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS FOR HIM , NOT AS A RESULT OF SNOOPING) IWOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN THIS AND HE WOULD HAVE STILL BEING DOING IT . HE WAS ALSO INVOLVED WITH OTHER WOMEN , AT LEAST 5 THEY WERE EMOTIONAL RELATIONSHIPS LEADING TO SEX. I CONFRONTED THREE OF THEM AND THREATED TO EXPOSE HIS COWORKER WHO IS ALSO MARRIED AS A MATTER OF FACT A NEWLYWED.I PROMISE YOU HER MARRAIGE IS ALREADY IN TROUBLE,SHE APOLOGIZED BUT WENT BACK AND TOLD HIM THAT I CALLED HER SO WHAT HE KNOWS I WILL DO MORE THE NEXT TIME , BELIEVE ME THERE IS MORE TO COME. MAYBE I AM VENTING BUT AT THE SAME TIME I HOPE THAT I AM HELPING YOU TO SEE THAT YOU ARE DIRTY, TO DISRESPECT YOURSELF AND YOUR SISTER LIKE THAT. IS THE BROTHER IN THE CHURCH NOW OR IS HE STILL PLAYING THE GAME TGO GET MORE BOOTY?.I WISH THAT WE COULD CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE ONE MINUTE I WANT SEX BECAUSE I AM ANGRY, BUT THEN AFTER THAT I CAN'T STAND HIM. NOW IT'S LIKE EVERY NIGHT WE ARE IN THE BED WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM BEFORE . HE CLAIMS TO LOVE ME SO MUCH ADN OUR KIDS ARE HURTING BECAUSE I TOLD THEM THE TRUTH .NEVER DRAG THE CHILDREN IN YOUR MESS THERE IS STILL SOME INSECURITES RUNNING OVER ME AND I TOOK THE BLAME FOR IT.BUT THE DEVIL IS A LIE, HE DID THAT AND GOD WILL DEAL WITH HIM. SHE HUNG UP THE PHONE ON ME WHEN I CALLED TO CONFRONT HER , I WAS HURT AND I STILL FEEL BETRAYED MORE SO BECAUSE IT WAS SOMEONE THAT I KNEW PERSONALLY. SO PRAY FOR ME THAT I AM HEALED. IF NOT I DON'T THINK THE MARRIAGE WILL LAST.

Ann Theresa
July 28, 2008 8:26 AM

I hope Rose reads this. Your attention should be to your husband only. I hear you still haven't learned that and I guess it's a game with you to see who's marriage you can create havoc in. I just wish I had seen this years ago that this is just who you are. I pray for you.

Wisdom Follows
August 2, 2008 11:29 PM

It's impossible to make a relationship work if only one party wants it.
Cheaters have to deal with the 80/20 rule. It almost ALWAYS works out that way. You have your 80% at home. We may not be the best looking, the greatest in bed, the richest, etc. We ARE the ones who support your efforts, listen to your gripes and groans, take care of your kids, clean your house, and wash your dirty underwear. Even if we don't do all those things, we do provide 80% (if not more) of the stability in their life. The other person is the 20%. When they loose the 80%, It's is then realized what was at stake and now they are 'stuck' with an inferior product. Possibly, they will jump from relationship to relationship, BUT they will NEVER find another YOU. Love yourself first and you will be able to weather the storms that may come your way.
Take the stance, "I will not be the cause of my marraige failing." If your spouse leaves, remember....SUCCESS IS THE BEST REVENGE! CONTINUE TO BE THE BEST YOU THAT YOU CAN BE!

Jean Marie
September 5, 2008 1:22 PM

I am very concerned. I recently lost my husband after a very grueling six year illness. A friend of his wrote me a condolence card. He was away traveling with his job at the time of my husband's death. They had been friends for over 15 years. My husband and I were together faithfully for 13 years. In this condolence card, my husband's friend shared with me, what he remembered of our (My husband and I) beginning, and how we fell in love, and how I was the best thing that ever happened to my husband. I called him to simply thank him for that. We exchanged e-mails and have been writing to each other, almost on a daily basis. We came to visit my husband's gravesite one day, I made lunch for him. We talked mostly about my husband, then he set up my new GPS system. (By the way he is married, on his 2nd wife now.) I found him very tall and handsome, I hadn't seem him in 10 -12 years. In his e-mails he is full of compliments on what a good cook I am, and how I look exactly how he remembered me to look. Indicating that I still look young. I am young to be a widow. Only 48 years old. Anyway, he recently said in an e-mail that "he liked me a lot and wanted to leave it at that." I responded that I like him too and agreed we should leave it at that. However, we do seem to be flirting in these what I thought were innocent e-mails and phone calls , which he calls when he is only away on business trips. I sense that he is unhappy in his marriage. At the same time I do not want to be a home wrecker or someones mistress. I am still grieving the loss of my husband. Now, I am feeling that he is emotionally cheating on his wife. Nothing physical happened, and I would never allow myself to be involved with a married man. Frankly I am still in love with my husband who only died two months ago. These e-mails that I thought were innocent seem to now have come to the forefront of my mind, and I am wondering what I am doing this for. at first it truly was comforting, but now I am afraid. I sincerely would never want to be responsible for someone divorcing their wife for me, even if things were not going well in that marriage. I am confused. Please give me some feedback. Thanks

Dorothy
September 7, 2008 8:17 AM

We live in a sexualized world.Everywhere we look it has sexual content.Our six year old girls clothing is sexy. selling toothpaste has a sexual content. Is it possible we were actually made to have close intimate relationships not only with people of the same sex but also of the opposite sex, but we just lost the ability. We don't understand boundaries and we don't do loyalty as well. If your identity is with Christ, He commands we love one another as we love ourselves.We are all caught up with selfishness, and lust and ego building instead of love for our fellow man or woman...talking listening supporting encouraging , what a world it would be if we didn't have to live isolated on some island

Jenny
September 7, 2008 9:55 AM

Time heals all wounds.

soldier
September 7, 2008 12:05 PM

I've been married for 8yrs with two kids. I recently just returned from serving overseas(Iraq). While in Iraq I became emotionally attached to a young lady, a fellow soldier. We worked together, played together and also prayed together. We became close and our friendship grew into a deep physical and emotional love affair for over a year. Now back home with my wife and kids I can't get her out of my mind or my life. We still communicate and also have secret meetings now and then. How do I get this person,that I have been emotionally dependent on during a stressful period in my life, out of my heart. I'm in love with her.....Help!

JC
September 8, 2008 7:39 AM

Respect is key. Respect who God has joined together. If you are not joined to that person in God's eye--depart. God's purpose in your marriages is not only for you to unconditionally love one another, but to grow YOU, your character, & understanding of Who He is by accepting your spouse fully & looking no where beyond except to God in prayer & study of His Word. Seduction/involvement with others in an intimate way, (the intimacy physically & emotionally meant only for spouses) is deceitful. Read Proverbs. Read ALL that God says about marriage & relationships. Note that we, male or female are His bride. Shall we turn to another? We have free choice to do so....what you do & how you respond is a choice. Develop your relationships with your spouse or with the person God has waiting for you when you decide to let go of decoys & follow Him in the way He has prepared. Trust Him fully. Do not play with fire. You're plain being selfish to think of 'greener grass'. Shut the door & water what God has given you. Change yourself by surrendering ALL to Jesus. He has not given you that other person that you are not married to. Wake up. Only Satan tempts. Be aware, vigilant & true to your Maker & His plan. It's the best one in the world! God bless you & keep you in all of your ways (your ways being one with His ways-Jesus 1st)and you will be satisfied. Look at your spouse & love them fully the way Jesus wants to love them through you. Do not diminish that love by being unfaithful with another. For the woman still greiving, focus on loving your Lord & developing that relationship so you will be prepared for the person He has waiting for you.

Sarah
September 10, 2008 3:16 AM

I am married to a man I adore. I fell in love with my psychiatrist, which I considered to be the stupidest thing I could possibly do. When we moved away from the city, I actually could not stop crying and proceded to invent a new identity because I could not bear the thought of not being comforted by him, laughing With him, feeling loved as a human by his kind-heartedness. He was the most charismatic person I ever knew. I began taking drugs and drinking, which I have never done before, because it seemed to fill the emptiness and make me feel spiritual. I woke up, regained my faith and rehabilitated my husband who withdrew from his medication previous to our relocation.

Cs
October 14, 2008 10:07 AM

I have been married for 7 years. My husband and I have had an ongoing argument for the last 3 years. 3 years ago he cheated on me and started out we were in a stressful time and he caught up with an old (girl) friend of his. They started talking all the time on the phone. I kept telling him that girls and boys can not be friends to that degree. I feel that if you are married if you are friends with the opposite sex then your spouse should be friend with that person as well. Well it turned into an affair and almost ruined our marriage. I am against affairs, and it scarred me deep. Now he has begun to be friends with another girl and this time he is texting her and deleting text and hiding them from me. They dont text but maybe every 2 to 3 weeks. I seen them on our bill. I confronted him on this saying that by him hiding them is wrong and he tells me that he knows that if I see them I will gripe about it and he does not want to hear it. In my eyes he lying to me and I am afraid that it is going to turn out like it did back 3 years ago. Am I in the wrong for feeling the way I do? Am I taking this way out of proportion?

D
October 21, 2008 5:46 PM

Cs,
You are not wrong for feeling the way you do. In fact, most likely he is already having an inappropriate friendship if not a full-blown emotional affair. I am an emotional affair survivor myself, having found out 5 weeks ago that my husband's "online gaming buddy" - also a married woman - had become more than friends several months ago. Don't wait until this blows up in your face. I suggest marriage counseling now and he needs to cut off all contact with this other girl. If he isn't willing to do both of those things for you and for your marriage, then it may be that your marriage is over already. I am sorry that I can't be more positive. My husband and I are in counseling and he has adhered to the no-contact rule, but it's an uphill battle and I don't know if I'll ever feel "normal" again. Please don't put yourself in this position again.

Nancy
November 3, 2008 2:52 PM

My husband had an online emotional affair. He was in daily contact (IM) with her for 2 years. His responses to all of my questions were lies to make it sound much less intimate than it was. He also lied 3 times about stopping contact, to the point of sending a "fake" email to her telling her it was over. The lies and the refusal to end it were heartbreaking. It took me a long time to believe it was really over. We lost a year of our marriage because she replaced me in his time, his conversations, and even in his sexual desire. He was so into denial that it took a very long time for him to see and admit that it was so much more than my being upset because of "some words on a screen". The emotional pain caused by emotionally leaving our relationship is just as great as the pain of a physical affair. It still hurts 5 years later. I don't know how to forget, and the thoughts keep the pain fresh.

gail
November 21, 2008 11:35 AM

I have been in an emotional affair for over a year. I actually walked out of my job of eight years because I was so unhappy and so depressed over this situation. I have had no contact with this person and have missed him more than I ever expected. He was in danger of loosing his job and it was pretty sticky there for awhile until the rumors stopped, we never slept together but we were intimant at times. This has left me with a huge hole in my heart/ I still think of him all the time and want to get over this and return to normal, I am sure he has, I do know he has asked about me..
Please tell me how to get over this.

gabrielle
November 30, 2008 3:54 AM

Hi Gail, I SO understand how you are feeling. I am in an affair right now, I feel terribly guilty and a lot of times depressed about it, and I need to end it, and that's what I must do, but I love the guy so much and I already miss him by just thinking of breaking up with him. I am sure it will break my heart and that I will cry a lot. I don't know how to get over him either. Especially because he doesn't want to break up. Neither do I but I know that that is what's best... Life (LOVE) can be so difficult..
Gabrielle

Your Name
January 10, 2009 12:19 AM

My wife refused to let me go to her holiday party saying she did not want me to see how she acted around her coworkers. We have known each other 21 years and are married for nearly 17 years. I have never seen her act inappropriately before, and actually worked with each other for 3 years when we first met. She is a nurse I have found out that she is working with a MD and they have had conversations like this.
MD: "The other nurse has a better ass than you." Wife:" But I have the bigger tits." (Sorry , these are her words here.) So, do you think she is having an emotional affair? Is the MD the reason I could not go to the holiday party?

GoingThroughIt
March 6, 2009 1:50 PM

This really hit home with me. Just two days ago, I ended an affair with a woman after more than two years. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done and we are now in the "no contact" period. But, there isn't an hour that passes that I'm not tempted to contact her. Frankly, I am miserable and heartbroken but the time has come for me to pour this energy into fixing my marriage as well as free the other woman to pursue someone who can be there every day for her. I know this pain will eventually pass.

Mary
March 22, 2009 2:40 PM

I'm in an emotional affair also. As a devout christian, I thought this could never happen to me, but it did. I had no resistance and went down like a stick of straw before the fire, and am now starting to try to 'fix' things. My only excuse is that my relationship to my husband was awful; I don't love him and haven't for years; he's been cold, distant, judgemental, critical, heartless, verbally cruel, etc. etc. To protect myself from this I built huge, thick walls between us with acres of moats around them, and I lived inside, miserable and lonely. I built up a life without him, getting involved in many volunteer activities, doing things with our three kids, and learned to just not have love in my life. Of course, I prayed about it. I would 'forgive' him periodically. I tried to act like I loved him. I begged the Lord to restore our love. I went to counseling. But nothing changed. Then I met the guy, who was sweet, kind, interesting, admiring...everything a woman would want, and when it came out he was interested in me, I just crumbled. No strength to resist at all. In the meantime, the Lord was working on my husband, he started to change; now he's actually quite nice; we've worked through some issues, and I've recommitted to honoring my marriage vows despite my feelings. Both my affair guy and I want to honor our marriages and just be friends; we haven't slept together; it's more the 'best friend' thing with intense feelings. It's been almost a year for the whole thing; I've been married almost 27. Sometimes it feels like a prison you put yourself in. It really tests your faith; do you believe or not in the sanctity of marriage. Sometimes I wonder why I do. But I do. And so I will stay in a marriage I don't want (except for my vows), and stay distant from a man I do want. And he will do the same with me. Maybe someday I'll see the fruit of these choices.

Me 2
May 8, 2009 9:45 PM

Mary, I was in a situation which sounds like it mirrors yours.. a marriage of 26 years and a "friend" with another man for 4 years. I guess I put "'s around the friend word because we were closer than friends (emotionally, mentally and spiritually intimate) but not physically intimate. Maybe that's even stronger than a physical thing, I'm not sure. Anyway, I want to encourage you to put the friend behind you and turn, full-faced and full-heartedly, towards your husband that the Lord gave to you. It's supremely hard AND supremely important. You may find yourself falling in love with hubbie again.. I know I did. I won't kid you.. it took 18 months of sobbing (and hiding my tears from my family) and praying and taking long walks alone, but the friend has been replaced with sincere devotion to my husband. The key is: no contact whatsoever (not an email, not a 'checking in to see you are doing well', not a dial-and-quick-hang-up phone call.. nothing. While I was doing those things, the sadness and pain remained. When I/we (he was doing them too) stopped, the pain blessedly vanished. Amputation is painful. Looking at the scars on your heart in the future will keep you from this situation again. Looking into the face of your husband, especially when he pets the dog, plays catch with your kids, takes out the trash, will remind you again that God brought him to you, and it's a good, good thing He did. I will be praying for you..... You were with him a year? It may take a full year to be relieved of it. I was in mine for 4 years. It's taken nearly 2 to be pain-free. The biggest upside: the glorious, fresh, guilt-free communion with Christ and the outrageous, unbridled joy at being free and clean. THAT's incredible. God bless you today and always.

gail
May 16, 2009 10:30 AM

What do you do when after 8 months he emails you, not only this but
asks you to lunch and to join him at bootcamp which i did, while emailing me he started flirting with me and even asked me was I at home, he wanted to tease me, not knowing what he meant I finally figured out being on yahoo he is on a chat system,, He was about to
go on a trip and emailed and asked If I would send him some sexy pics of my self, I discovered that he was on line chatting with who I dont know as he told me for two days he and I could chat, before he left
and he was on line but not with me, I just went back a year depressed and more than that thinking I was the only one, maybe I am assuming
but he never could get passed the physical when i mean fondling me
couldnt have sex and would run everytime
anyones thoughts

gail

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