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What NOT to Say (Job’s Comforters)

posted by Beyond Blue | 12:30pm Wednesday April 18, 2007

Harold Kushner explains what NOT to say to a grieving family in his classic “When Bad Things Happen to Good People” using as an illustration the story of Job (the faithful, righteous, and pious man who loses his livestock, house, servants, and children, and is afflicted with boils all over his body). Having lost his own son, the rabbi knows all too well what helps and what hurts when trying to comfort a friend or relative.

The three friends who came to console Job got terrible scores, and here’s why, according to Kushner:

“Because the friends had never been in Job’s position, they could not realize how unhelpful, how offensive it was for them to be judging Job, to be telling him he should not cry and complain so much. Even if they themselves had experienced similar losses, they would still have no right to sit in judgment of Job’s grief. It is hard to know what to say to a person who has been struck by tragedy, but it is easier to know what not to say.

“Anything critical of the mourner (‘don’t take it so hard,’ ‘try to hold back your tears, you’re upsetting people’) is wrong. Anything which tries to minimize the mourner’s pain (‘it’s probably for the best,’ ‘it could be a lot worse,’ ‘she’s better off now’) is likely to be misguided and unappreciated. Anything which asks the mourner to disguise or reject his feelings (‘we have no right to question God’ ‘God must love you to have selected you for this burden’) is wrong as well.

“Under the impact of his multiple tragedies, Job was trying desperately to hold on to his self-respect, his sense of himself as a good person. The last thing in the world he needed was to be told that what he was doing was wrong. Whether the criticisms were about the way he was grieving or about what he had done to deserve such a fate, their effect was that of rubbing salt into an open wound.

“Job needed sympathy more than he needed advice, even good and correct advice. There would be a time and place for that later. He needed compassion, the sense that others felt this pain with him, more than he needed learned theological explanations about God’s ways. He needed psychical comforting, people sharing their strength with him, holding him rather than scolding him.

“He needed friends who would permit him to be angry, to cry and to scream, much more than he needed friends who would urge him to be an example of patience and piety to others. He needed people to say, ‘Yes, what happened to you is terrible and makes no sense,’ not people who would say, ‘Cheer up, Job, it’s not all that bad.’ And that was where he friends let him down.

“The phrase ‘Job’s comforters’ has come into the language to describe people who mean to help, but who are more concerned with their own needs or feelings than they are with those of the other person, and so end up only making things worse.”



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Kevin Keough

posted April 18, 2007 at 8:21 pm


So cool…….I am working on a book by this title. It came to me in graduate school some 21 years ago. I was unsettled by how unprepared fellow students, professors, and mental health professionals seemed to be. It was and remains deeply unsettling…..Cheers for you.



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anon

posted April 19, 2007 at 9:51 pm


This article rings so very true. No one can truly know what another feels when losing a loved one. Even if they had been through it themselves. There’s no telling one’s capacity for grief from another’s. Giving sympathy and letting someone experience their loss as they need to is a sign of true friendship. After losing my spouse, I had a “friend” of many years tell me, as I was trying to speak with her of my feelings, that I was only allowed one pity party a week…….can you imagine? And this being approx. 4 months after his death. I’ll tell you, it’s hard accepting that type of “friendship,” so needless to say I have not spoke to her again. I simply cannot tolerate looking at her face. May she be blessed in any way that God can allow her if she ever lost her husband, before her own death. If she has any kind of feelings in regard to a loss of this depth, she will remember the words she spoke to me and feel badly; perhaps— I’m not being as forgiving as I should just yet as it hurt alot. So be the friend that is needed; express your sympathy and leave it at that. We all are different in many ways..no twins in personalties that I know of…grieving is a personal experience and if done on it’s own, in it’s own time, it will heal the one who is experiencing it in a way that will allow them to accept the loss in a way that is acceptable to them.



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cynthia alvarez

posted April 20, 2007 at 5:22 am


Truth is, if one hasn’t been there they cannot feel the pain. One cannot imagine the loss of a child unless they have lost one. Saying things such as “Tomorrow is another day” is so blase; yes it will be another day, another day of suffering. Friends and family try so very hard to help, but, they should share the sadness for their friend, because they know their loss, as friends and family may not.



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Mary Huber

posted April 20, 2007 at 8:37 am


Whenever someone I know is suffering whether it is from a death, divorce or an illness that is invading their life, unsolicited by them, I just tell them “I am so sorry you have to go through this and if you need to talk to someone I hope I can be of comfort to you.” Even if someone is just having a bad day all anyone wants to hear is ” I feel badly for your situation” Most don’t want to hear how much worse your situation was and they really don’t want to hear how much better yours is. They don’t need cliches like “this too will pass” or “God never gives you more than you can handle”. A hug and a sincere offer of help will be appreciated but don’t offer if you can’t reaaly follow through.



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Mimi Heit

posted May 10, 2007 at 1:13 am


I’m so glad you opened this discussion. All of the times I’ve made the cliche’ and idiotic remarks come back to me in a flash when I read this, and the reactions from the people I’d intended to help with my words, now make a great deal of sense. If I could beg their forgiveness without breaking open an old wound, I would. In many cases, people are left completely alone. PLEASE do not assume they have friends and family nearby! Certainly your physical presence and help with practical matters is much needed, just as is your sharing in their sorrow. This seems to be a very isolated society in many cases. I would not recognize my neighbors in the street, and wouldn’t presume to ask for help. This is not at all the way in which I grew up, with family, friends, and neighbors surrounding us. Please also remember that as people get older, often they do not have children, and their friends have passed away, leaving them alone. A recent death of an only child brings this one home to me. We grieved this loss completely alone, and there is something very wrong about that! It was especially egregeious when my husbands’ “family” is less than two hours away. Whatever you do, especially if you’re supposed to be “family”, do NOT make a perfunctary phone call, and tell the grieving person “to call me if you need me.” ASSUME that we need you!



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Cheryl Herrin

posted May 17, 2007 at 6:10 pm


I’m so sorry for your pain.



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Cheryl Herrin

posted May 17, 2007 at 6:24 pm


to the 2 Mary’s above: please help me.



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Cheryl Herrin

posted May 17, 2007 at 6:26 pm


i’m sorry Mimi is one of the names.



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llacey03

posted October 27, 2009 at 10:11 pm


When Bad Things Happen to Good People facebook
The most intriguing discussion in this book is how to console those who are suffering
we all have times when we know others who need a friend
and times when we need a friend
Kushner uses the the term “Job’s comforters” and shows how their remarks made things worse AS WHEN THE COMMENTS MAKE THE SPEAKER FEEL BETTER BUT THE SUFFERER FEEL WORSE
the challenge is to study and find out how to help and how to avoid remarks
that make the suffering worse such as “its your fault” “straighten up”
More helpful is to listen to understand and when you do, indicate you understand the misery; sometimes just let him or her know you are there and they are not alone no quick dismissive know it all remarks
For me , I am still trying to learn



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freesoftware

posted April 21, 2010 at 2:21 pm


What phrase… super, remarkable idea



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freesoftware

posted April 22, 2010 at 11:49 pm


You are absolutely right. In it something is also to me it seems it is very excellent idea. Completely with you I will agree.



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Rawie

posted May 2, 2010 at 5:46 am


As well as possible!



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Hot babe

posted February 9, 2011 at 2:44 pm


That’s where the money is. (Response of famous bank robber Willie Sutton (1901-1980), when asked why he robbed banks).



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Ed Botting

posted November 21, 2011 at 10:20 pm


It might not be a bad idea of Ms. Borchard tried reading the passage before she writes a article about it.



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