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The Latest on Antidepressants: Be Careful Where You Get Your Facts

Thursday July 31, 2008

Categories: Depression, Mental Health

James Gordon, author of "Unstuck" and Charles Barber, author of "Comfortably Numb" present some interesting statistics on antidepressants. However, for persons like myself who suffer from severe depression, some context is needed to their facts. An article in the Summer 2008 issue of "Johns Hopkins Depression and Anxiety Bulletin" fills in the blanks that leave people thinking that antidepressants aren't effective at all. Excerpted from the article, "Report Card on Antidepressants" by J. Raymond DePaulo, Jr., M.D., are these paragraphs:

A study released last week reported that depressed patients put on antidepressants get better at only a slightly higher rate than those treated with a placebo, which is essentially a sugar pill. This is, of course, a potentially concerning finding for people like me, who prescribe antidepressants, and for those of you who take them.

The results, reported in the open-access journal "PLoS Medicine," come from a combined analysis of 35 studies with more than 5,000 patients, evaluating four of the newer antidepressants--fluoxetine (Prozac), venlafaxine (Effexor), nefazodone (Serzone), and paroxetine (Paxil).

The new twist is that this report includes data from many studies that were conducted by the drug companies and filed with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration but never published in academic journals.

What the PLoS study found is that, on average, patients taking medication had a substantial response as measured by a depression rating scale. Whereas they started with a score of roughly 26 (on a 54-point scale, where higher means more depressed), they dropped after six weeks of treatment to about 16.

But the patients taking placebos also, on average, had a strong response, dropping to about 18.

However, the placebo picture was a bit more complicated. Unlike the antidepressants response, which did not vary based on how initially depressed patients were, the placebo response was strongest in the LEASED-DEPRESSED folks, dropping off in those who illness was more severe.

So here's take-home message No. 1: Antidepressants showed a significant advantage over placebo for the severely depressed patients but not for the mildly and moderately depressed patients.

Maybe that's not really so surprising.



It is well established that mild and moderate depression can respond to psychotherapy alone, without medication. For example, Dr. Michael Thase, a psychiatrist at the Western Psychiatric Institute, and his colleagues found in a 1997 study that the advantage of antidepressants added to psychotherapy only came when depression was more severe.

It is not unusual for a depressed patient of mine to come into my office sad and weepy, and leave after an hour feeling buoyed up. There is a sense of relief that comes from being with someone who understands and a sense of hope that comes from being with someone you feel has the power to make things better.

These are important aspects of what happens in psychotherapy, and they are likely important aspects of the placebo effect. Patients who receive placebos are being seen by medical staff and are getting some of that relief and some of that hope.

Sometimes people fail to realize that what medication does and what psychological factors do both have an impact on the brain. Dr. Helen Mayberg, now at Emory University, studies brain circuits in depression. She used a neuroimaging method to study metabolism across brain regions in patients who responded to Prozac and in those who responded to a placebo.

She found that, among the placebo responders, there were a number of specific regions with metabolic increases and others with metabolic decreases. These same changes were also seen in the Prozac responders, suggesting that this is what the brain needs to do to feel better, regardless of how it gests there.

But that's not the whole story. Because there were also some changes unique to the Prozac responder brains, Mayberg and her colleagues speculate that these other changes might be important in maintaining longer-term response and preventing depression.

Indeed, to return to the PLoS study with which we started: It would be interesting to know what happened after the six weeks that most of the individual treatment studies lasted. Were the patients who responded to antidepressants more likely to stay well longer than those with a placebo response?

A recent study by Dr. Arif Khan and colleagues at the Northwest Clinical Research in Bellevue, WA, addresses exactly this question. They analyzed antidepressants studies in which drug and placebo were continued in responders for at least four months. The result: Placebo responders were more likely to suffer a recurrence of depression than antidepressant responders.

And now for take-home message No. 2: There still might be some advantage to antidepressants even for mild and moderate depression.

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Filed Under: alternative medicine, antidepressants, Beyond Blue, depression, depression blog, Dr. J. Raymond DePaulo, drugs, Johns Hopkins, placebo, Therese Borchard, traditional medicine

Comments

In my opinion, this is more a support for the already proven fact that pACEBOS HELP SOME PATIENTS THAN IT IS AN INDICTMENT OF ANTIDEPRESSANTS. It has ong been know that some people are responsive to placebos for WHATEVER medication they are using and regardless of the illness being treatd, including cancer.I find it interesting that there is no mention of a control group who took neither; doesn't that skew the results a bit? I know that in my case, my sisters have ALWAYS been able to ascertain through observation when I used to stop taking my antidepressant because of the stigmas attached and the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality on which we were all raised. Within days, one of them would question my faithfullness to my medication; it was THAT obvious. I think the title of this post says it all, folks. Anyone who has ever taken a statistics class knows that there are erroneous conclusions drawn from nearly EVERY study,which also proves the importance of a highly analyzed control group. when al of the data is disaggregated.

Larry...with my heart I hear you and appreciate the fight you are fighting. I do not wish to support the people who are so rabidly anti-med
...CoReg, a heart med, saved my life as far as I can see. Byetta, a diabetes med, has given me some clarity. My experience with antidepressants was not so grreat. I was fine on 25mg of Zoloft...on 50
I wanted to gouge my eyes out. It was absolutely bizarre. I was switched to Paxil...it seemed to work great. I have hypertension, since my teens, that responds poorly to meds. On the Paxil I decided that the reason my blood pressure was so bad wwas because I held too much inside...so I proceeded to tell everyone what I thought...unfortunately, in my disinhibition, I wasn't particularly careful how I told them. Like Kathleen, ten years later, I'm still trying to pick up the pieces. I managed to destroy my relationship with three of my four children.

I don't see anyone talking about the Cytochrome P-450 relationship to the metabolism of anti-depressants. People are, INDEED, different in the way they respond to meds...there are genetic reasons for that.

Because of an interest I've had in serotonin, and the reading I've done for over two decades, I have been very interested in the SSRI's. I think a big part of the problem here is the complexity of the human brain. As researchers and doctors try to learn more to help people, they often don't know all the consequences of the treatments they develop until they are used by a large number of people. Some people have suffered severe negative reactions to antidepressants.

I don't think the problem is that antidepressants are bad...I think it's that not enough is known yet about how they work in different people with genetic variations.

I have been taking a drug called Zoloft for some three years. I am definately better on them rather than off. but have now reached the highest does allowed, and plateued. so the next level, if i was to change, which i have to do. zonk me out, i am unalbe to function normally. I wake up with that thick head, like you have had 500 drinks and i dont drink!

So i dont know what to do really. The placebo effect is certainly something to think about, it clearly states on the packet of zolofot do not stop, you have to wean yourself off. well i'm not so sure, there have been times that i have gone away and not taken them for a week, or times at home when i just forget. nothing happens, i'm still here. still full of grief, but no different. i'm thinking a good councellor, you know, like you see on tv. you lie on the coach we talk. you heopefully get better. but i cant seem to find one. I think personal refferal is the key to that one. but because i am so depressed and full of grief, i dont have any friends to give advise on who to use, catch 22 situation. if you know anyone,i live in seven hills, sydney nsw. i'd love to hear from you,
thnaks
tracey

Tracey

The use of SSRIs like Zoloft and many other meds come with many cautions. The caution of stopping the med without gradually weaning can cause some significant side effects. The fact that you did not experience them may be just luck or the half life of the drug itself which tends to self taper due to a longer half life of the medication. Also with many of these medications your body can build up a tolerance to them and they will become less effective with chronic use. Switching to another type of antidepressant as opposed to an increasing dosage of a simlar SSRI may be of some help. Unfortunately, for many of these drugs, it will take up to 4-6 weeks to feel the difference. This should however be discussed with your healthcare provider and alternative medications discussed along with the risks and benefits.

For those who are significantly depressed couseling is a must. Finding a good counselor is always difficult as the belief systems and personalities often get in the way. Just keep trying and never just give in to the depression. There are always those of us here who are willing to listen when you need to talk about what is going on in your situation.

Sandy

I have been taking welbutrin for awhile now, and it has really helped. But, I have finally started to realize is that part of my depression, comes from not letting go of past hurts, or anger at myself as well as others, and even toward God. I've begun to forgive myself for not being perfect, and to let anger towards others go, although that does not mean opening up old relationships that have been destructive and hurtful, just letting go of the past and learning to forgive a little better. I'm grateful for the medicine. With it that dark heavy feeling lifts, and I stop starting to cry in the line at the grocery store. I'm also learning that the reason I'm crying in the grocery store was the day my husband and I learned of his brain cancer, so maybe I just need to lighten up on myself, and realize that's normal. Even so, I'm grateful for the medication. There are those out there who are so hostile towards anti-depressants. I guess they have their reasons, but they have sure helped me. It reminds me of the story of the man on the beach throwing the starfish that had washed up on the beach back into the water. Someone comes along and says, there are thousands of these star fish on the beach how can you probably make a difference. As the man threw another one back in he says "well it matters to that one." Or so the story is told.
Also, I know that welbutrin is not what really helps me, I know that God helps me. And I always know that

Desiree

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