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Do You Believe in Angels? A Lively Conversation on The Huffington Post

posted by Beyond Blue | 10:00am Thursday June 11, 2009

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I am a bit surprised by the response on my post, “Do You Believe In Angels?” at the Huffington Post. I went back and forth on whether or not to post such a religious topic on a secular site, but I’m glad I did because the post has generated close to 400 comments. Here’s my piece followed by some of the dialog. To get to the post and read all the comment, click here.

Ever since I was a young girl, I have been fascinated by the concept of guardian angels. Probably because I have always been in dire need of one.

Every morning before school, my mom would instruct my three sisters and me to “take our guardian angels with us,” and we would roll our eyes, of course. “Yeah, yeah, yeah, he’s in the backpack.”

But I can’t help but wonder if that’s why my twin sister walked home from a car accident that surely should have taken her life and how I managed not to get mugged all those nights I passed out cold in the off-campus housing area of the University of Dayton called “the ghetto.”

The writings of bestselling author (and friend) Joan Wester Anderson, especially, have long inspired me. I get goose bumps every time I read her story about her son and a friend being saved by an angel in the middle of a snowstorm on an isolated country road in Indiana.

A tow truck appeared out of the blue, offered to pull the stalled car to a nearby friend’s house. But as soon as the two boys turned around to pay the kind and generous man, he was gone. And there was just one set of tire tracks in the snow: that of the boy’s car (not the tow truck).

Writes Anderson in “Where Angels Walk”:

Angels don’t submit to litmus tests, testify in court or slide under a microscope for examination. Thus their existence cannot be ‘proved’ by the guidelines we humans usually use. To know one, perhaps, requires a willingness to suspend judgment, to open ourselves to possibilities we’ve only dreamed about. Was it an angel? Our family will never know for sure. But on Christmas Eve in 1983, I heard the whisper of wings as a tow-truck driver answered a heavenly summons, and brought our son safely home.

Joan now has company because another believer, or translator, if I can use that term, has published a book of conversations with angels. In “Angels In My Hair,” Irish mystic and author Lorna Fitzgerald Byrne describes her encounters and conversations with angels, and in doing so, offers readers a message of hope and love. She writes:

As you sit there reading this–whether you believe it or not–there is an angel by your side: it is your guardian angel, and it never leaves you. Each one of us have been given a gift, a shield made from the energy of light. It is a part of the guardian angel’s task to put this shield around us.

To God and the angels we are all equal; we all deserve to be protected, to be cared for, and to be loved, regardless of what others might think of us–good or bad. When I look at someone I can physically see this shield around them; it’s as if it’s alive.

Your guardian angel is the gatekeeper of your body and your soul. He was assigned to you before you were even conceived; as you grew in your mother’s womb he was there with you at every moment, protecting you. Once you were born and as you grow up your guardian angel never leaves your side for an instant; he is with you when you sleep, when you are in the bathroom, all the time–you are never alone. Then, when you die, your guardian angel is there beside you, helping you to pass over.

Byrne was brought up in poverty and suffered from learning disabilities, and has had her share of skeptics. Yet she’s won over many who were not prepared her sense of serenity and innocence. The Irish mystic once told a reporter that she doesn’t like to call herself a psychic, and is even afraid to say she is a healer even though she says she sees things about a person’s life and helps the person to understand it.

She also refuses to “tell fortunes,” explaining that she feels “that is too dangerous.”

I confess that I am still a tad skeptical. My theological training has me questioning some of Byrne’s simplicity. However, “Angels In My Hair” certainly proved to be an engrossing tale that managed to intrigue and inspire even this cynic.

I hope Lorna is right about an angel sitting with me as I write this. I could the company and protection.

What about you? Do you believe in angels?


Here’s what some folks say! ….

Belief in supernatural spirits might be comforting, but it’s harmful to society as a whole. And the concept of a guardian angel is especially ridiculous when you consider the number of people who are injured or killed every day. Is it too much to ask that people act like adults and take responsibility for their own lives, without relying on imaginary friends? Apparently it is.

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The problem I see here is that both the secular atheists and the religious fundamentalists desacralize nature. They are both reductionists. One reduces it to mathematical formulae and the other to literal script from a text. It’s all black and white with no room for unexpected weeds in the cracks.

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My grandmother used to tell me that when it thundered outside the angels were in heaven bowling. My dad the biology professor responded to my confusion about this stupid story by teaching me about the weather and what really causes thunderstorms. I remember very well the physical lessons of learning about the properties of water and wind, cold and warm fronts, that electricity existed in the atmosphere all as a five year-old. I very much preferred my dad’s explanations and experiential tools for learning.
Science has a rational answer for most physical phenomena; we may not have found it yet but we will.

Emotions are a little more difficult. Reality exists but the way in which each person interacts with said reality is different depending on that person’s life experiences and innate qualities.

Unfortunately, we pollute children’s thinking so early with religious indoctrination. Richard Dawkins says it best when he argues that there is no christian or muslim or jewish child, there are only children being indoctrinated into those religions by their parents. If you are told there are beings like angels, gods, and devils, it is hard to snap out of that mindset. It would be so much better for kids if they could be brought up secularly until a certain age (say 16 or so) and then offered a choice of religious beliefs. That way they would at least have a true choice.

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posted June 11, 2009 at 11:21 am


I can’t say I believe in angels but I have some wild and weird experiences that can only fall under the angelic category. When I was hitchhiking in Europe in the 1980′s we were dropped off in the middle of the industrial section of Milan at midnight. We walked to a far off gas station and an elfin woman took us to the Milan train station with two bus changes without a word and vanished when we got to the right stop. Our mothers had been praying daily that their two free wheeling daughters would be protected and we were. There were several other incidents during those six weeks. Unfornately there have been times when I wanted an angel for a friend, my termianl sister or myself and there was nothing, absolutely nothing. And then after a too long time something happens – I find my car in a thousand car parking lot in seconds, my husband doesn’t lose his job- good happens.
I enjoy reading Rilke’s Duino Elegies sometimes they make me believe.



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Suezlu

posted June 11, 2009 at 12:30 pm


My heart hurt very much reading about different belief/deals that people have and realize that not everyone has the same ideas on various subjects. I guess it hurts the heart to know that people just want children to grow up with no imamgination and only be trained on real, science proof world. Problems with that (1) not everything can be explained (2) Theories are not fact and in the science world that is sometimes forgotten. (3)Theories and sometimes proved facts can be changed due to the improvements of technology. Why not incorporate everything when teaching a child? Muslims, Christians, Hindu, Buddist all believe in angels and are found in their texts. Pagans believe in elementals and angels do fall into that catagory. Whether you can see, feel, touch, taste, smell something doesn’t mean it isn’t real eg. an atom. Why debate or argue about something that is very near and dear to my heart? I can agree to disagree but walking in the path of a fool isn’t very pretty. Most ignorance is heard when one opens their mouth. There are many stories, beliefs and people who believe in angels (not to be confused with angels being gods) and those who do not want to experience angels. The lose is for those who don’t believe and never will believe that they exist. I am not missing out on something this special. Anyone else with me on this one?!?



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posted June 12, 2009 at 10:02 am


Wow Theresa..you certainly stirred up a hornets nest over at the
Huffington Post where no angel would dare to go!
Seriously one either has faith or not…what bothers me is the anger of the non-believer when someone assents to believe..it’s taken as
a personal offense. Can’t they just live and let live? What about
the common ground this administration if always promoting? Quess it
just shows there isn’t any common ground among people of ill-wll and
intolerance is everywhere among us. We know how to lift off for the moon and arrive safely but we know nothing about love, the only real
force that will bring peace to us all.



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posted June 12, 2009 at 10:12 am


SUEZLA….You hit it right on the Button!!!!
How sad for those that do not believe. :[



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Rondia

posted June 12, 2009 at 10:20 am


If we believe what the bible tells us we have to believe and know that there are angels, but more important we have to understand the works of the spirit, If our GOD is the same as he has always been and he sent angels to deliver different messages to his people then we must believe his angels are watching over us also. We as children of the most high GOD must stand fast in our belief. The word tell us that each generation will get weaker and wiser. this is why we walk by faith not by sight, if you do not believe in something, of course you can think of a good argument against it, but that still does not make them right, but all we can really do is tell them, no need to let it trouble you( let not your heart be troubled)



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Marianne

posted June 12, 2009 at 10:49 am


It’s a shame that so many people take such a clinical view of the Universe. Science has its place, but even scientists are delving into the realm of spirituality. There are more things going on than we could ever imagine, and much of it is in the spiritual realm.
Personally I don’t believe in organized religion as it tends to put God in a box and has done so much harm in God’s name. I do believe that we are spiritual beings living in a physical body, and that angels indeed exist to guide, guard and protect us. I have had too many “close calls,” that would have meant my death not to believe.
As for the age old question of why some people are victims of horrific crimes, or die before we think it’s their time, there is not enough room in this space to go into that.
The school of though I believe in tells me that we made certain agreements about the soul experiences we needed to have before we were born, and the way we meet those agreements each day is a matter of choices we make.
There is much information on this topic as well as the subject of angels, so I suggest that before anyone closes their mind to the wonderful possibilities for help and guidance from the spiritual realm, he or she research these topics with an open mind.
I most certainly believe in the existence of angels and archangels, and their ability to answer a call for help or guidance.



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posted June 12, 2009 at 3:24 pm


I believe that when we love someone be your close relative or friend
or the opposite sex,we serve as their guardian angel as long as we live or as long as they live.We do all the possible ways even the most hardest and do sacrifices to serve their needs,that the things that make them happy is always our joy.Though in the bible ,the reality of angels were mentioned,those were the highest forms in the heavenly realms with God and they were His servants to take charge of His people here on earth and were living here on earth with us through
those people who love us.In conclusion,we can create an angel within us when we love others even more than ourselves,and angels are everywhere,be here on earth and in the heavenly places serving God,they were like the armies of God.



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