For most of my life I was a devout Christian, believing in God, trusting in Christ for salvation, knowing that God was actively involved in this world. During my young adulthood, I was an evangelical, with a firm belief in the Bible as the inspired and inerrant word of God. During those years I had fairly simple but commonly held views about how there can be so much pain and misery in the world. God had given us free will (we weren't programmed like robots), but since we were free to do good we were also free to do evil—hence the Holocaust, the genocide in Cambodia, and so on. To be sure, this view did not explain all evil in the world, but a good deal of suffering was a mystery and in the end, God would make right all that was wrong.
In my mid 20s, I left the evangelical fold, but I remained a Christian for some twenty years—a God-believing, sin-confessing, church-going Christian, who no longer held to the inerrancy of Scripture but who did believe that the Bible contained God's word, trustworthy as the source for theological reflection. And the more I studied the Christian tradition, first as a graduate student in seminary and then as a young scholar teaching biblical studies at universities, the more sophisticated I became in my theological views and in my understanding of the world and our place in it.
Suffering increasingly became a problem for me and my faith. How can one explain all the pain and misery in the world if God—the creator and redeemer of all—is sovereign over it, exercising his will both on the grand scheme and in the daily workings of our lives? Why, I asked, is there such rampant starvation in the world? Why are there droughts, epidemics, hurricanes, and earthquakes? If God answers prayer, why didn't he answer the prayers of the faithful Jews during the Holocaust? Or of the faithful Christians who also suffered torment and death at the hands of the Nazis? If God is concerned to answer my little prayers about my daily life, why didn't he answer my and others’ big prayers when millions were being slaughtered by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, when a mudslide killed 30,000 Columbians in their sleep, in a matter of minutes, when disasters of all kinds caused by humans and by nature happened in the world?
I read widely in the matter. I read philosophers, theologians, biblical scholars, great literary figures and popular authors from Plato to Sartre, from Apuleius to Dostoevsky, from the Apostle Paul to Henri Nouwen, from Shakespeare to T.S. Eliot to Archibald Macleish, from C. S. Lewis (with whom I was very taken) to Harold Kushner to Elie Wiesel.
Eventually, while still a Christian thinker, I came to believe that God himself is deeply concerned with suffering and intimately involved with it. The Christian message, for me, at the time, was that Jesus Christ is the revelation of God to us humans, and that in Jesus we can see how God deals with the world and relates to it. He relates to it, I thought, not by conquering it but by suffering for it. Jesus was not set on a throne in Jerusalem to rule over the Kingdom of God. He was crucified by the Romans, suffering a painful, excruciating, and humiliating death for us. What is God like? He is a God who suffers. The way he deals with suffering is by suffering both for us and alongside us.
This was my view for many years, and I still consider it a powerful theological view. It would be a view that I would still hold on to, if I were still a Christian. But I'm not.
About nine or ten years ago I came to realize that I simply no longer believed the Christian message. A large part of my movement away from the faith was driven by my concern for suffering. I simply no longer could hold to the view—which I took to be essential to Christian faith—that God was active in the world, that he answered prayer, that he intervened on behalf of his faithful, that he brought salvation in the past and that in the future, eventually in the coming eschaton, he would set to rights all that was wrong, that he would vindicate his name and his people and bring in a good kingdom (either at our deaths or here on earth in a future utopian existence).
We live in a world in which a child dies every five seconds of starvation. Every five seconds. Every minute there are twenty-five people who die because they do not have clean water to drink. Every hour 700 people die of malaria. Where is God in all this? We live in a world in which earthquakes in the Himalayas kill 50,000 people and leave 3 million without shelter in the face of oncoming winter. We live in a world where a hurricane destroys New Orleans. Where a tsunami kills 300,000 people in one fell swoop. Where millions of children are born with horrible birth defects. And where is God? To say that he eventually will make right all that is wrong seems to me, now, to be pure wishful thinking.
As it turns out, my various wrestlings with the problem have led me, even as an agnostic, back to the Bible, to see how different biblical authors wrestle with this, the greatest of all human questions. The result is my recent book, God's Problem: How the Bible Fails to Answer Our Most Important Question--Why We Suffer. My contention is that many of the authors of the Bible are wrestling with just this question: why do people (especially the people of God) suffer? The biblical answers are striking at times for their simplicity and power (suffering comes as a punishment from God for sin; suffering is a test of faith; suffering is created by cosmic powers aligned against God and his people; suffering is a huge mystery and we have no right to question why it happens; suffering is redemptive and is the means by which God brings salvation; and so on). Some of these answers are at odds with one another (is it God or his cosmic enemies who are creating havoc on earth?), yet many of them continue to inform religious thinkers today.
My hope in writing the book is certainly not to encourage readers to become agnostic, the path that I took. It is instead to help people think, both about this biggest of all possible questions and about the historically and culturally significant religious responses to it that can be found in the most important book in the history of our civilization.

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I can't agree, and do not like the Richard Dawkins quote...n a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."
No, what we would expect to see in a world saturated with sin, where man is a fallen being, is exactly what we have...A perfect and righteous God with a fallen creation taking a hands off approach...he is perfect and can not, or will not intervene for whatever reason which I believe is out of our human capacity to contemplate...God does not create suffering, we as humans do in alliance with our sin nature. God allows it, because when we 1st sinned he took the back seat and let us have our free will...This is a big struggle for myself as well because for all the harmony in the world and beauty, there seems to be no rhyme or reason for any of it. This hands off approach is the only way I can make logical sense of it...thoughts?
who said believing in God is for the weak and fragile...Quite contrary
I can't agree, and do not like the Richard Dawkins quote...n a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."
No, what we would expect to see in a world saturated with sin, where man is a fallen being, is exactly what we have...A perfect and righteous God with a fallen creation taking a hands off approach...he is perfect and can not, or will not intervene for whatever reason which I believe is out of our human capacity to contemplate...God does not create suffering, we as humans do in alliance with our sin nature. God allows it, because when we 1st sinned he took the back seat and let us have our free will...This is a big struggle for myself as well because for all the harmony in the world and beauty, there seems to be no rhyme or reason for any of it. This hands off approach is the only way I can make logical sense of it...thoughts?
who said believing in God is for the weak and fragile...Quite contrary
Just because people suffer, doesnt mean God does not exist. If people are starving in other countries, why don't we just feed them? It is that simple and logical. Same goes to the sick,poor, blind,
etc. Why should God help them when we are too selfish or have the means to help them?
Jeff Young
April 18, 2008 8:34 PM
Professor Ehrman wrote: "A large part of my movement away from the faith was driven by my concern for suffering.... To say that he eventually will make right all that is wrong seems to me, now, to be pure wishful thinking."
While I am acutely aware of suffering, both personally (having suffered tragedies in my own life - lost my father at age 11 and my sister about 12 years ago to the AIDS virus) and on a larger scale (having done evangelistic work in the 3rd world), I find this as a reason for rejecting God, and the God of the Bible, a flawed one.
Either the story of Jesus as the risen-from-the-dead Son of God (put forth by the NT documents) is true or it is not. Dr. Ehrman's textual issues fail to undermine the trustworthiness of these documents and their historical testimony is very solid for the resurrection. Certainly if one chooses not to believe that is one's choice. But, the historical testimony to the resurrection and the eyewitness accounts are strong evidence - sufficient for belief.
If what the NT documents say about Jesus is true, then, as we are wont to say, it is what it is! And, we have the promise that "the sufferings of this present world are not worthy to be compared to the glory that is to be revealed" - a promise based not on "wishful thinking" but on the resurrection from the dead.
What historical testimony and eyewitness accounts are you referring to? There are notoriously none to speak of outside of the NT. So the NT speaks this into existence?
PLEASE DON'T HARDEN YOUR HEARTS:
I am a 16 year old, living in the North of America who is growing up in a strong christian family. (I mention North America because the majority of the North have atheistic views, or so many people assume.)
Although I am so young, age is not the indicator of understanding. I have read and studied the Bible and ministries to grow in my faith, and have learned the hard way the one answer to your questions, which are all talked about in the broadcast.
I am grieved to hear that you have already gave up on faith because, as it says in the Bible, when you have questions like that- as I did- that is an indication that you are growing in your faith.
I do pray for your revival and renewal of a passion for God.
Please. I encourage you to listen to this broadcast.( If you go on iTunes, search under Podcasts, Walk in the Word with James MacDonald, and then find the one Titled: When I am broken )It will only take 20 minutes or so.
...if you are really struggling for answers and value your faith, the best place to turn is the Bible. And you were wrong; God does answer all prayers- He even answered those in the Holocaust. Just because His answer to them, was not "Sure I will exempt you from this suffering immediately," that does not mean that he didn't answer them. His response was, "For a little while now you are going to suffer. And because you are being persecuted for your faith, their will be riches in Heaven stored up for you. Endure this pain in the name of the Lord as my son Jesus did- as innocent as he was he endured far worse pain than you are. Hold on my children. Their day will come."
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