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I think it is important that we refer to the Divine in ways that are gender inclusive rather than gender neutral. Dominate “western” religious culture has spent the last two thousand years referring to God as “He,” “Lord,” “King,” etc. It is time to balance the scales by rising up and calling Her name, and not forgetting that the Spirit is also far beyond our limited gender constructs.
Jews and Christians believe that we are “made in the image,” therefore, we should be able to look to any person—male, female, white, brown, grey, gay or heterosexual—and see part of the Face of God.
Sometimes, breaking with traditions, however comforting and familiar, can help to liberate the full Presence of God in our lives.
As Rilke wrote:
We must not portray you in king’s robes,
you drifting mist that brought forth the morning.
Once again from the old paintboxes
we take the same gold for scepter and crown
that has disguised you through the ages.
Piously we produce our images of you
till they stand around you like a thousand walls.
And when our hearts would simply open,
our fervent hands hide you.
personally, i have the opposite problem....i really dont like it when people refer to God as a she, you get into godess worship and stuff like that...I prefer to refer to God as heavenly father and him.
i do agree with the in his image by
I think it's alright to affirm God's feminine side and God's masculine side in their turn, just as long as we remember that these are human constructs of great limitation, and do no justice in fully expressing the true awesomeness of the Divine.
Well, we have to assume God had something to do with gender being a reality. So we can not say God is genderless, but maybe gender neutral. Nonetheless, even if God is gender neutral, we are all like women before HIM.
In the first place it is refered to God as our Father. Then there is suppose to be the fact that "He" if i may,created man. Then took a rib from Adam,and created Eve.
How anyone would get any facts that God was a women i'll never know. Got could be anything. Even an animal type for all we know. Seeing animals were created first before us. And then there is proof we have heshe's in life,with both genders.
So it sounds to me someone is trying to turn minds into thinking women should be superior then they have already accomplished over men,through their own jeolousy to share,as men have shared in the past.
Male language for God is male worship. So, what's wrong with goddess worship?
What's best is both, a balance of both.
I'm a practicing Hindu and in the religion it is very clear that God is both genders and beyond all genders (both the manifested universe and beyond the manifested universe). However most of the texts that have been translated into English often still use the "He", "Lord", etc use...unless the text is specifically talking about a feminine aspect like Kali or Durga then "She" and other appropriate gender pronouns are used. At the same time I have read books where when the gender is unclear the word "It" is used. I'll admit that when I first began exploring Hinduism that I was immediately put off by this use of "It", but as I got to learn and understand Hinduism more and realized that in Sanskrit how words are masculine, feminine, and neutral all at the same time (and thus change according to use) that the idea of "It" was basically because the Sanskrit word used in those texts was the neutralized version of the word. An example is the word Dev, Deva, Devi. Dev is the neutral, Deva is the masculine, and Devi is the feminine. All translate as "God". I took me some time to get used to hearing "It" being used or to reading "It" as a translation, but with time I slowly recognized it. However even I, a person who adopted/converted to Hinduism, still often say "He" or "Lord". It's not that I think God is exclusively male....in fact even when I'm saying these words there is a larger part of me that thinks "It"....but instead I've often found myself using the gender based on what the people around me are using. I've talked to folks who refer to God as "She" and when I open my mouth and speak I find myself doing the same thing and yet, once again, thinking "It". I realize that when I say "It" to some people they react much the same way I first did when I read/heard "It" as used for God. Perhaps its because our language limits the use of that word to things...nonliving things to be specific...and God is very much alive. We have trouble associating the word "It" with God because of our own association of the word "it" as being only for nonliving things. We therefore limit our words. I've noticed when speaking to my many Hindu friends...those born into the Hindu tradition, that they often avoid pronouns altogether and stick with names that are often gender neutral...inter-sect used such as Ishvara or Brahman or just "God". It's not unusual for them to say "God" rather than "He", "Him", "Lord", etc. Saying things like "God is capable of drawing all people back to God." It sounds a little odd at first until you realize that's just because most of us would have said it as "God is capable of drawing all people back to Him." But I find I can more easily say "God" than I can "It" when I speak and am unaware or unsure of the person I am speaking to's own use of gender pronouns. So rather than think "do they think of God as 'he' or 'she' or 'it'" I just don't bother with it at all and say "God". If it comes down to it that I've heard what they've said and pronouns have become clear I am more apt to just start using the pronouns they use, too. Much the same way as I am when speaking to people and the word "God" is bothersome to them, then the word "Divine" is often used or some other term. Afterall English is only as limited as we make it and so long as the symbolism of our language properly conveys are understanding, then that is what is most important.
Growing up in a small town with every faith of worship seemed quite normal to me, it gave me a sense of knowing everyone worships and believes strongly in a higher power. When others services were discussed on Monday, all were referred to as male.To me it was as natural as breathing, it was always comforting to know that kind,strong,forgiving grandfather-like man was there watching over me and my family.Why does it matter so much how we genderize?, as long as we individually have that relationship that fullfills and sustains us,after all, isn't the message more important than if it came from a man or woman. God Bless
I am a Christian and so I go by the definition found in the chapter 3 of Exodus, where Yahweh defines himself.
That said, I also realize that God is a mystery and can be male/female, or both, or neither, or something else entirely.
That woman who bullied Marianne Williamson does seem rather jealous of the entire male species. I hope she found some way to peace.
The Trinitarian concept appears to try to bring an understanding of the unfathomable.
"Let 'us' make man after 'our' likeness . . ."
God as a family unit.
I refer to God as "Him/He", and it makes no difference to me whether other people say God is male or female. I believe that God is beyond such human distinctions. I can sort of see the point that, even if God is beyond these distinctions, there are implications for us as people. However, I feel that a debate over the gender pronoun we should use for God distracts us from some more important questions. Just use what feels comfortable in your own heart and never mind political correctness.
as you know jesus has address god as his father.
hello folks, I guess if i thought gender was this important i'd also figure what race and so on, see it don't matter to me, all that. what matters is that i know that i am not alone any where i go and that i always have unconditional love all the time. pretty simple. wondering about the gender of god makes about as much sense as thinking your worth or value in gods eyes being only monetary. or that the church or the body of believers can only do good if they wait till the money comes before doing anything. look around you at what god did with nothing. thanks for the opportunity to say this. have a beautiful summer.
My understanding is that the custom of referring to God exclusively as male was really reinforced during the establishment of Christianity by Constantine and by the King James translation of the Bible. From what I've read, earlier Greek texts referred to the Holy Spirit as female, thus having a female counterbalance to God the Creator (later translated as God the Father). Also, in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), certain names for God (such as Ruach -- the wind or breath) were often used with feminine pronouns.
Certainly most non-Christian (e.g., Hindu) and pre-Christian (e.g., Pagan) traditions recognize both male and female aspects of God. To me, the problem with referring to God exclusively and always as male is that it is too limiting. Maybe that's what the woman was trying to say to Marianne Williamson -- not that she wanted her to always refer to God as "she" (that would be equally limiting), but rather to incorporate/acknowledge God's feminine qualities as well as masculine (Yin/Yang).
At my church (United Church of Christ), my pastor alternates between male and female pronouns or uses "God" or other gender neutral terms.
The Bible says God our Father
IT IS A RELIGION THING
GOD JUST IS CHRIST TOOK UP IN MAN MAYBE HE WILL COME AS A WO-MAN
NEXT TIME IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT THOUGH ITS ABOUT LOVE
LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF ARE WE ARE BROTHERS KEEPER ?
WHEN WE LOVE THY ENEMY WE LOVE AS GOD THAT IS IT IN A NUT SHELL
Where Are You This Moment
Oh dear God in this exact moment I need to find what I can not
My heart searches the light that eludes my soul this very hour
Is there a sign I have missed in my misguided journey or forgot
In my mind at times You live aloft in some far far distant tower
The road is long and winding set before me to travel and find
This destination that the heart yearns to find peace and comfort
Some call it heaven, others speak of home, not a place but mind
Religion set out sign post but call to pay measured coins of sort
Is Love from God for sale, or is it free will for us to find God’s love
Can you with a treasure find the Utmost High in that far far away land
Must this be the road we travel with each religion at every corner of
Selling the truth that masses buy in measures as they empty our hands
I left that way to seek the road less traveled to find that light post to follow
His truth, His life, His way, is straight as is the light energy of the cosmic force
The Christ is not a man but a way that was to be walked, this path so hallow
He entered a man that gave way to his will to be as one with Father, the source
Yes, I love Jesus, but I love the Christ more, in him our journey begins and fulfills
So, Christ, help me to walk the path and to love as You did so perfectly and commit
Know that distance is not far, but outside space and time, may I love as Christ wills
Fill the days with Christ love , living the moment, not asking where are you this moment
AS YOU MAY GUESS I FIT NOT AS A CHRISTIAN AT LEAST THE MODERN DAY ONE BUT SEE JESUS AS TEACHER MASTER OF MAN A SON OF GOD
AS I AM AND ALL ARE BUT NOT SEASONED OR HONORABLE AS HE
MAY SOME DAY WE SEEK WITH TRUE GODLY LOVE AND FIND THAT GOD THE MOTHER OF ALL CREATION THE FATHER OF ALL WISDOM AND THE SON THAT ALL STRIVE TO BE BECOME AS ONE FOR ALL ETERNITY LOVE TO ALL
LOVES US ALL