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At Talk Islam, a great discussion has ensured (as tends to happen over there) about analogizing between Islam and other religions, especially when talking about “reformations” or about labels. Abu Noor points out,
those both within and without Islam that call for “reformation” are not
really calling at all for anything like the Protestant reformation of
Christianity but are in fact calling for a Reform Islam movement that
would resemble Reform Judaism.
He also proposes the term “Orthodox Muslim” as a better label for those muslims attempting to engage in such a process. The debate turns to the fact that Jews can also be thought of as an ethnic group in addition to a religious one, whereas thats not the case for muslims in the US (though in one sense it is a good approximation for muslims in Europe, on a country by country basis).
posted November 17, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Unveiling Zakir Naik: Terror cannot be fought with Terror
Dr Naik, don’t fool people with these extended logics. There are so many tools to fight injustices and you belong to a country which won its independence through non-violence in the face of aggressive British imperialism. Had Mahatma Gandhi also felt that terrorism was the only way to get the British out of India, we may have remained confined in the yoke of colonialism as yet.
Dr Naik, communalism cannot be fought with communalism; the only weapon you have is secularism. Terrorism and extremism, which you justify, has to be fought with reasoning and logic and not by terror. India, our country is a glaring example of fighting terrorism for well over three decades and yet we maintained our unity, pluralism and identity.
No Zakir Naik. Stop this non sense. You are living in pluralistic society, a nation which has assimilated so many cultures and has given you the freedom of speech and even allowed your abominable Peace TV on air. Don’t let it fritter away with your concoction and later self denials. You also live in a world which has now grown into a global village so there are rooms for everyone, every ideology to prosper. A viewpoint article by a Former editor of Delhi Mid Day S A H RIZVI
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posted November 18, 2008 at 12:10 am
Muslims as an ethnic group?
I’m Christian, so please forgive my question if it’s naive. But wouldn’t an “ethnic” Muslim not be a Muslim at all? Is that why there is no such thing as a Muslim ethnicity, or is there some other principle here?