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Would an Ahmadinejad victory be good for Israel?

Monday June 15, 2009

Categories: The Neverending Story
There are always those who prefer to see world events through the narrow lens of their own political interest rather than universal principles of freedom and justice. Case in point: the extremists running Israel, whose entire narrative about Iran...
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June 15, 2009 4:11 PM

Keep in mind that the author of that op-ed is one of Ha'aretz' token right-wingers. Here's a poll offering a somewhat different point of view: 80 percent of Jewish Israelis don't regard a nuclear Iran as a threat.

My experience is that most Israeli Jews have ambivalent opinions about Iran. They fear Ahmadinejad's rhetoric, but don't hate the country - many of them have family ties there! During the Khatami era, the articles about Iran in the Israeli media leaned heavily toward features and puff pieces: the focus was less on the (alleged) nuclear program than on how many Tehranis listened to Israel Radio. I suspect that if Ahmadinejad falls, Iran will rapidly cease to be a major political issue in Israel, which might be exactly what Bibi is afraid of. (Amazing how the neocons and some of the more breathless "anti-imperialists" so often find themselves making common cause, but I digress.)

Anyway, do you find the Mousavi demonstrations as inspiring as I do? May the Iranian people take their country back.

Jonathan Edelstein
June 15, 2009 4:12 PM

Sorry, that last was from me.

Aziz
June 15, 2009 4:47 PM


yes, agreed absolutely. thats really my main point - and the same logic may well apply to Hamas' leaders fears of Palestinian statehood.

I hope I didnt imply that ordinary Israelis are culpable or sympathetic to these pro-Ahmadinejad sentiments. Thanks for that link to the poll - i need to update this post to emphasize this fact. my point is to highlight how in Israel the extremists have political control, to the mainstream's detriment.

Incidentally Jonathan

Jonathan Edelstein
June 15, 2009 6:47 PM

I don't think anything in your post implied that ordinary Israelis are culpable. Incidentally, I think the same may be true in reverse: many Iranians fear Israel because of the saber-rattling and threats from the right, but relatively few hate Israel, and there's always been a lot of covert interest in Israel among Iranians. I am morally certain that if the Israeli government dialed down the rhetoric, at least some of the Iranian public would reciprocate.

BTW, Iranians and Israelis have at least one thing in common: both are convinced that the international community values their lives cheaply. There is considerable justice to the Iranian perception, given that the world allowed Saddam Hussein to bomb their cities and use poison gas on their civilians for eight years without saying boo. If I were Iranian, I would also be very concerned if someone threatened to bomb me, because such threats have become very real in the past. One more reason why the threats have to end.

It looks like your last comment to me was incomplete - what were you about to say after "incidentally?"

OVG
June 15, 2009 10:11 PM
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Racist Arabs & bigoted Muslim claim, only Arabs/Muslims have a "right" to "exist" in the M.E..... http://israelvsgenocide.blogspot.com/ - Israel vs Genocide

carrie
September 12, 2009 4:41 PM

in isaiah it tells from before the lost house of israel to now and it
warns of irans attack of israel and (Ashur)Iran to be scattered all over the hills of judea - messiah comes and gathers the lost house of israel---when you read it be sure to be careful not to mix israel with the jews the tribe of judah( people clump jews and israel together(lost house) thinking they are the same tribe they are not

keep in mind iran will take over nations , like bablyon(bavel) which is iraq.

if you really want to know about this stuff you should get the book of yasher sarf ha yasher (the book of Jasper told of is sammel 1)
it is know as the book of the upright. tells about there fight when
nimrod was king ,it tells genealogy of the world.
nothing that is not already known.

carrie
September 12, 2009 5:11 PM

palestin is the word philistine (translation is Greeks) that would be the state of the Greeks ,but wait a minute we have a greek nation
and they don't look greek those people they are arab not Greek.
thing are getting lost in translation.

like the word sabbath(translates to shabat- english is saturday).

as i read i see what idots are in iran and the world.

more idot stuff paul tarsus-claim is he change his name to paul -no
it is a translation of the name saul and he had no last name that was
the city he came from -he was from the tribe of benjame--city is Tarsus, Turkey --he was a part of the lost house of israel.
mary magdal- that is miryam from---magdal,Israel.

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