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Faith and Hope at the polls

posted by Neale Donald Walsch | 5:04am Tuesday February 12, 2008

People of faith and hope are flexing their political muscle these days…and the nation is better for it. Wouldn’t you agree?
I am surprised, impressed, and pleased with what has been happening in the campaign of former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee.
Now please don’t take this as an endorsement of Mr. Huckabee. It is not intended as that — and, in fact, to be truthful, I do not agree with many of his political positions. But that is not the point I hope to make here, and it is not the reason I am so pleased with what is happening at the ballot box.
I am pleased that Mike Huckabee is winning state after state, and is becoming a real force to be reckoned with in Republican politics, because it says something to me about People of Faith, and the powerful role that they can play (are are playing) in our political process.
Faith has an important part to play in politics. Perhaps the most important part. For if our politics is not a statement of what we believe in (about everything, including God), then what is it? As I said here yesterday (and have said before audiences all over America for years), a politics that is not based on our most sacred beliefs is bankrupt.
Read that, bankrupt.
That is, empty, worthless, without any coin or value.
I do not believe in a political process that about beauty contests. This should not be about personal popularity. This should be about individual convictions. This is not beauty, this is about beautiful ideas.
On the Democratic side, Senator Barack Obama talks a lot these days about “changing the mindset” that led this country into war in Iraq; “changing the mindset” that allows this nation to ask more, as a proportion of income, of its middle class than it does of its rich; “changing the mindset” that produces a national debt in the trillions while paying scarce attention to the challenges and problems of health care costs or global warming.
What Obama is talking about, of course, is changing the beliefs of Americans. Author of the book The Audacity of Hope, Obama wants voters to rise to the level of their highest thought, rather than what they think we can get away with, or reasonably accomplish, politically.
This is a refreshing energy shift in the political scene, the likes of which we haven’t observed since the stirring speeches of John F. Kennedy.
Mike Huckabee, likewise, is inviting voters all over America to vote their conscience and their beliefs, to rise to their highest idea, rather than accepting what they think is most practical or workable politically. In his view, the GOP is moving toward nominating a candidate not because he holds the highest ideas, but because he is said by some to have the best chance of winning in November. That would be, in Huckabee’s thinking, the entirely wrong reason to vote for anyone.
I agree. A vote for John McCain should be a vote for John McCain because one thinks he is the best person for the job, not because one thinks he is the person mostly likely to win.
Both Mike Huckabee and Barack Obama are underdogs in this presidential candidate nominating process. Yet both have unbroken spirits. As Huckabee said the other day, “I believe in miracles.” And as Obama said over the weekend, “I have to have hope. Look where I came from to be here.”
I like that. I like that attitude from both of these men. The two are miles apart politically and philosophically, but they are touch my heart with the power of their hope and faith.
I, for one, yearn for an American electorate that votes its beliefs, its hopes, and its conscience, not political practicality. Not its best idea of what will “work,” but its best idea of what is “right.”
Wouldn’t that be just wonderful?
Do you think it is possible?
We will know more when we see the results of today’s primary elections in Maryland, Virginia, and the District of Columbia.
next presidential election watch him



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posted February 12, 2008 at 9:08 am


And i hear him say “Laon, take it easy!” … shaking head and laughing. Alright Father. I will…
And i ask “How do i put this? How do make the larger scope of what is happening in understanding terms?”
And i hear “Allow me” with a gentle smile.
This years elections are indeed a time of change for all. The people are stretching to overcome earthly limitations and human understanding. Yet none are standing completely in their full knowing. None have stepped forward holding the capability to justly and rightly hold the responsibilities of the next world leader. It will not happen for sometime, nor in this election. Nor does it truly matter whom the people choose, as it is widely known yet denied it is not the peoples voice that is heard. For if it were the peoples voice, each holding the right to have their vote counted with one election, there would be no need for an electoral college as a checks and balance system, overriding the peoples voice when the elements of power see it fit.
The change that will occur is the exchange of leaders, but no new velocity of the power of peace will sustain or progress. It is not time. As is evident in the peoples desires to continue striving for such in similar ways of the most recent past, in order to procure peace; the same choices result in same results.
None stand neither hot nor cold. Many speak of negotiation in terms of politeness and dancing with truth, making cordial a way that requires forth wright, honest and simple communication of the facts. Diplomacy has become undiplomatic…
The election of those whom in times past have experienced injustice, is an illusion meant to detour from reality. And it is working in the most subtle of ways. Please note that while experience helps to create an individual perspective, it is not the perspective itself, it is a choice to choose the perspective. Thus those making rise for the peoples eyes to see, of their heritage and their sufferage, is simply an attempt to gain political favor. Thus Obama does hold ulterior motives. Hillary will not be in office. It is between “republican” candidates.
Though again, this election is not of great consequence in concern of what is to come.
I would like to address a notion upon earth that is seemingly growing with the world chaos. It is quite understandable, as it is in the very nature of man kind to stretch for peace, especially in times of change. It is the notion that I do not exist according to all that which has been given to the earth in prophecy.
Belief is such a beautiful thing. It is a huge element of our co-creation process. Yet to deny the past is to distort the truth. To deny the past and the future truth given during the past, is to try and rewrite history backwards and forwards. In other words, just because you choose differently does not make the truth not so… It is a human quality to seek a way out, and a godly quality to be humble, acceptant of goodness, and understand goodness comes through perseverance and growth, especially when its hard. I am God.
I am real. I am coming back. There is going to be turmoil on the earth, no matter if people do not wish it so. This can not change for your benefit. For if it were easy, this becoming a God, a real and true God, with the capability of moving the deep and creating forms by mere words, would you hold the degree of Love necessary to be responsible to your chosen obligations? And if I could not walk with you during your God becoming path, could you know how to love the people whom will come through you?
There is a difference between self Love and God love. One is not the other, yet both are perfect.



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Brian Horan

posted February 12, 2008 at 9:10 am


Neale,
I’m getting the swing of – “For if our politics is not a statement of what we believe in (about everything, including God), then what is it?”
I’m also unapologetic about my support for consumer advocate Ralph Nader in 2000. No he didn’t cause Al Gore to lose as screwed up as Florida was.
But, politics also has to be about respecting others, part of which means compromise.
Also, as Kathleen Parker (a syndicated op-ed writer) puts it in her article ‘Far right may get what it deserves.’:
“Principles shouldn’t be so inflexible that strict adherence elevates a worse alternative.”
I think your statement taken to the extreme can lead to fundamentalism. Evangelical, Rick Warren rightly labels fundamentalists of all stripes as folks with an inability to listen the other side.
Our mutual admiration for Eckhart Tolle reminds us how important listening is.
I love you man.
Brian



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amilius

posted February 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm


How gracious is it to relegate some forms of love between consenting adults to ‘fobidden’ or ‘condemned’ status? How gracious is it to tell a woman she has no right to make choices about her own body? How gracious is it to support holding advantages over others rather than seeking to share those advantages? How gracious is it to support wars of aggression? How gracious is it to see some forms of belief as worthy of imposition upon others? Were not governments organized so as to promote gracious choices among people while regulating their ungracious speculations.
Neale, I’ll vote for the gracious Democrat, thank you. I observe progressives are frequently gracious, they choose for others as they would choose for themselves. I observe Democrats are often gracious. I observe Conservatives are sometimes gracious while Republicans are seldom gracious. Neoconservatives are rarely gracious, frequently allowing themselves choices they deny others and choosing for others what they would choose for themselves as they do, such hypocrites are ungracious by choice.
We are all One. A gracious person demonstrates this by choosing accordingly. An ungracious person’s choices belie that we are all One.
I know we are all One. I know we live in a gracious Universe that empowers us to realize the instructive consequences of our ungracious choices as well as realize the benevolence of our gracious choices. I have had enough of the instructive consequences of Bush the Lesser’s term of office. I will graciously choose accordingly. Namaste.



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C.jan

posted February 12, 2008 at 4:01 pm


i dont see obama being a candidate period anyone that cannot and does not pledge to our nations flag has no business in office



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Janette S.

posted February 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm


I love the evidence of faith and hope entering into the political process. I absolutely love it. Thank you for this column and the faith your words put daily in my life!



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Anonymous

posted February 12, 2008 at 6:08 pm


C.jan, you stated:
“i dont see obama being a candidate period anyone that cannot and does not pledge to our nations flag has no business in office”
I’d appreciate if you would research this statement before spreading it on to others. It is absolutely not true about Barack Obama. Check out this link:
http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/11/12/obama_is_a_patriot.php
Suzy in Ohio



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Suzy

posted February 12, 2008 at 6:31 pm


C.jan said:
“i dont see obama being a candidate period anyone that cannot and does not pledge to our nations flag has no business in office”
Please research you infomation before you spread these untruths about Obama or anyone else.
Suzy in Ohio



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David

posted February 12, 2008 at 6:54 pm


I think the “beautiful ideas” you were referring to, are more like Plato’s “forms of goodness” in the Republic. That the guardian (leader, philosopher king, what have you) emulates and understands the “good” is what you think is most beneficial for our society.
However, our war of aggression against Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. should not be supported. McCain supports it. Huckabee supports it. And they want to prolong it, as well.
How can you rationally justify loving humanity, when you would even consider continuing this bloodshed for Oil?
It seems like the most beneficial action (the one that represents who-we-really-are) would be a vote for a candidate who believes in a.) TRUE universal health care minus the profit and b.) no more war for Oil.
This is the bare minimum.
McCain also stifled funds for women seeking abortions. Do you think God would turn away a woman seeking an abortion? Do you think he would turn her back on the woman? I think not.
If one truly votes for one’s highest ideals, and the best one comes up with is McCain, or Huckabee…then one should seriously re-evaluate what one believes in.



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David

posted February 12, 2008 at 7:05 pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gwqEneBKUs
Still think McCain will emulate our highest goals and hopes?



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Inkhawk

posted February 12, 2008 at 8:15 pm


As an American I believe in generosity, in liberty, in the rights of human beings. These are social and political faiths that are part of me, as they are, I suppose, part of all of us. Such things are easy to express. But part of me too is my relationship to all life. And this is not so easy to talk about. I believe in the EXPERIENCE, and for me, quick words are not at hand.
“Is suffering really necessary? If you had not suffered as you have, there would be no depth to you, no humility, no compassion. Compassion is the awareness of a deep bond between yourself and all creatures.” [Eckart Tolle]



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michelle

posted February 12, 2008 at 9:11 pm


According to an article today by David Edwards and Muriel Kane, Huckabee holds the revolutionary belief that American politics is ready to do away with the separation between church and state and he is prepared to go so far as to alter the Constitution:
“I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution,” Huckabee told a Michigan audience on Monday. “But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that’s what we need to do — to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than try to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view.”
A governmental politic that actually expresses the highest spiritual truths of the people it governs might be just the ticket for our earth to finally experience peace right here, right now. If it is true that our politics is our spirituality demonstrated ,as CWG teaches, then this desire of Huckabee’s appears to align.
However, a lot rides on Huckabee’s spirituality and his specific interpretation of “God’s standards” in the above quote. If Huckabee’s interpretion holds the belief in a God who is judgmental and separate from man/woman and the belief that there is but “one true path” to God, then such a marriage between spirituality and politics could have very scary consequences for our future. In my humble opinion, we do not need a president who would be intolerant of other peoples (whether they be gay or females making choices about their own bodies) and other religions, nor do we need one, at any level of our government, imposing right-wing, Christian “morality” on the nation at large.
That being said, I do not know anything about Huckabee’s specific spiritual beliefs, but it might be worth investigating since he is such a big proponent of this great change in the landscape of our political system.
Love and Peace,
Michelle



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Josh

posted February 13, 2008 at 8:38 am


Not its best idea of what will “work,” but its best idea of what is “right.”
Um in your book the New Revelations and others it says that this belief we have abaout righteousness is what has us in real trouble, it says that we outta see what is workable, not what we think is right but what functions based on where we say we want to go.



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Pat

posted February 13, 2008 at 10:48 am


So what God Standards is Hucklebee speaking about in specific? I like the separation of church and state. What is bothersome is the lack of practice of the peacemakers.



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Charles Cosimano

posted February 13, 2008 at 3:20 pm


Given the candidates that WILL be running in November, the Evangelicals no longer have any muscles to flex. The Huckabee campaign is a line out of Shakespeare at this point, “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”



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Rita

posted February 17, 2008 at 9:23 am


Huckabee a man of faith, yes ……….. but faith in what? A man who says that all people with AIDS should have been isolated, a man who says that being homosexual is comparable to having sex with the dead, a man who wants to change the constitution not to blend church and state, but to make sure that gay marriage is then criminal, is not a man I understand to be motivated by knowing how much he is loved, much less the rest of us. We have had enough “fear based” politics, and I cannot be “impressed” as Neale says, with a man who is so afraid of “choices” other than his own, or what he interprets the Bible as saying, that he would be willing to change the constitution on his mission to “save” us all. This is not what I define as a man of faith, unless you are speaking of blind faith based on fear and ignorance. It is purely, clearly, fear, and I have had enough of that for several lifetimes.



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Tanya

posted February 17, 2008 at 12:27 pm


This is a surprisingly naive blog, that I wouldn’t have expected from Neale, and it is disappointing as well.
As a freethinker, I am fine with folks aligning with whatever religious viewpoint helps them lead honest, meaningful lives. I draw the line when there are attempts to impose specific viewpoints on U.S. citizens. Really, I have had quite enough of “people of faith” trying to impose their specific brand of faith on U.S. citizens through their government service, especially in the current administration.
I am very much impressed, however, with those who truly embody inclusive, nondivisive spiritual ideals in their actions and lives, without espousing a particular religious sect. That I admire. That I believe has a place in government service.



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