Conversations with God

The Process of Ascension

Sunday April 13, 2008

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Sunday is Message Day on the blog. Monday through Friday we look at contemporary events and day-to-day occurrences at the intersection of Life and the New Spirituality…but on Sunday, we reserve this space for a specific teaching derived from the material in Conversations with God

Through the years I have given hundreds of talks and written scores of articles revolving around this material. Every seven days we will present in this space a transcript or reprint of one of those presentations. We invite you to Copy and Save each one of them, creating a personal collection of contemporary and uplifting spiritual thought which you may reference at any time. We hope you will find this a constant source of insight and inspiration.

This week’s offering: An exchange of emails between Neale and a reader on March 19, 2005 about what some have called the process of ascension.

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Dear Neale…I have been reading a lot about the "Ascension" process lately and I am a bit confused. First of all, I don't believe that you've written anything about this process in any of your books. Does this mean that it really isn't going to happen to us humans? The thing that bothers me most about what I've read is that it is often mentioned how we are going to ascend to the 5th dimension and it talks a lot about the "higher realms." Yet, it also says that we are moving out of the time and space continuum and duality. How could this be if we're moving to a "higher" realm? I'd sure appreciate it if you could address this process. I'm sure that it will help others beside me. Thank you, and many blessings for the wonderful work you are doing.

Michael

Dear Michael...The place that exists outside of the space/time continuum is what we would call, in human language, a "higher realm." There is a difficulty with communication through words. Words are the least reliable form of communication. Thoughts are the next least reliable, because most people's thoughts are based on their past experience, not on what is happening right here, right now. Feelings are the language of the soul. If you want to know your truth about something, look to how you are feeling about it.

The so-called "higher realm" that exists outside of the space/time continuum can only be fully described by exploring your feelings about it -- and this is a singular experience. It cannot be done in plural. It is like joy. Try to describe "joy" to someone. It is almost impossible. How big is it? How wide is it? How long or short is it? How warm or cold is it? Sometimes joy feels warm all over. Sometimes it feels like cold tingles up and down your body. So how "warm" is joy? How cold is it? What size is it, what temperature?

You see, one cannot describe it in human physical terms. You have to feel it. And the feeling cannot be described. It is, quite literally, "indescribable joy." All this talk of you ascending to a higher realm is nothing more than a collection of words to clumsily describe a raising, or ascending, of consciousness. It is consciousness raising. It is when you move in consciousness to a new place, a place outside the physical limitations and experiences of your bodily reality.

This can be done at any time, and many masters have done it without moving their bodies at all. Most people think that "ascension" means that the body literally lifts off the earth and "ascends into heaven." That is one way you can do it, but it is far from the only way -- and it is the most difficult way, because it requires that you drag your physical body along with you.

Your body is yours, it is not You. The "you" that ascends is not your body, unless you choose to take your physical body with you -- but why would you do that? You have no need for your body at all. It is merely a tool through which you can create and achieve a greater and grander experience of Who You Really Are. Once you have achieved that experience, your body becomes unnecessary, pointless. Like any tool with which you are finished, you can put it down. You are not this tool. You have a body, but you are not the body that you have.

True masters are those who can leave their body at will. The part of them that is Who They Really Are simply exits the body, leaving it lying there, or sitting there, doing its own thing, taking care of itself through the ongoing operation of the perfect mechanism that is its biological system. The heart beats, the lungs expand and contract, blood circulates...the mechanism functions perfectly, working like a clock, or like a well-tuned automobile. You do not have to be in your car for it to keep running. You can step outside of your car and just let the motor run. The car does not need you to run. It runs by itself. But it does need you to steer it, to tell it where to go.

Your body is a vehicle, moving you through the world at the level of gross physicality in order to provide you with experiences that are only available to you at that level. These experiences create a context within which your mind can begin to hold the larger reality of your True Identity. Once you experience your True Identity, your body becomes virtually useless in terms of your own journey. You can get out of the car. You're there. You're arrived. Then you will begin to use your body as a vehicle through which you may carry others to a direct experience of who they really are. Suddenly your body has a use again! And it is the greatest use of all. It is the purpose for which it was invented.

In other words, once you achieve a certain level of awareness, you will use your life here on this earth to lead others to that place of awareness -- to carry others back home, back to a full knowing of their True Identity. You will wake other people up.

Soon, you will seek to do this for the Whole Humanity. Nothing else will matter. Nothing else will seem the least bit important, least of all the concerns of your own body, or its once-selfish, now-forgotten needs or satisfy-me-now indulgences. You will experience yourself needing nothing. You will find yourself yearning for nothing. Certainly nothing that only the physical realm can provide you.

At this point you will be "in this world, but not of it." And, while you will continue to remain with your body, and to enjoy it, you will enjoy it and use it in an entirely different way. You will use it to bring others pleasure. To bring others joy. To bring others peace and love and safety and security and wisdom and clarity and awareness and the experience of Oneness. You will use it to bring others Home.

Imagine having sex like this. Just imagine it.

I bring this up because sexual expression is one of the great joys of being physical. But you have not known true joy, I promise you, until you have had a sexual experience in which you use your body as I have described above. Then you will take what you have experienced and thread it through the fabric of your entire life. Sex will no longer be an experience limited to intercourse. It will become Synergistic Energy eXchange -- true SEX -- which is the exchange of the essence of Who We Are with each other in a way that brings all of us back to ourselves and to the knowing of our Oneness with all others and with all of Life.

During your stay here on earth you will "ascend into heaven" many times, your consciousness leaving your body frequently, during meditation, during dreams, even, eventually, in a fully waking state, as I have described here. Your daily life will contain many moments in which you move in and out of a state of higher consciousness, from which you will perform many wonders. I am in such a state right now as I perform the wonder of giving you this answer. This reply to you could not have emerged from me had I not "ascended" to the level of consciousness wherein this answer resides.

Do you understand?

When you expand your awareness of your True Identify you will exit your small self, your localized self, and move in consciousness to your Universal Self at will. Often will you do this. You will exit and return, leave and come back, ascend and descend, sometimes for extended periods, sometimes for the instant moment, moving between realms effortlessly. And when you do this, my wonderful friend, the kinds of questions you've asked me here will disappear.

Now you may say, that sounds wonderful! How can I get there? How can I get to that place of awareness? And the answer is astonishingly simple.

Take someone else there.

When you understand this, that will be all that your life will be about.

I send you love and hugs....neale.

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Comments
Alonzo
April 14, 2008 5:36 AM

...Ascencion is simalar to transcendence...I studied transcendence but there is one great and most worthy difference here. Transcendence is an unconcious state of spiritual travel. Most masters know this and teach it to thier peers. Since the inception of CWG series well all hell came and before you know it, no longer existed. So parrallel is are the two but we now know that there are many ways that we can ascend and transcend...Thanks Neale for having such a deep insight like a dry sponge absorbing all and helping us to remember and make us aware again of who we are and were...Alonzo

Christine Magee
April 19, 2008 12:59 AM

One might describe me as a seeker - a person on a mission to find answers to some extremely perplexing questions. Whilst Neale's
"Conversations With God" books gave me many of those answers together with great insight, I still find more questions popping into my head begging to be answered. It's like there are loose ends out there that I'm trying desperately to tie up only to find myself getting tangled by them.

I am most interested in the ascension process but I'm curious to know WHEN this will happen. Will EVERYONE ascend or only those who have raised their awareness sufficiently? Is there going to be some cataclysmic event that will cause our ascension as indicated in the book of Revelations in the bible? And then don't forget there's food for thought with regard to the Mayan calendar - can it be that the world we know and love may cease to be from 21st November, 2011? There are those who believe that around that time there will be a massive shift in consciousness but, basically, the world will still go on mostly as it has done before. Me? I'm not so sure. You see I have read Lynn Grabhorns "Oh God What Is Happening To Us?" and "Planet Two" and in the latter book Lynn says that it is vital for each of us to raise our vibrations so when it's time we can depart (or ascend). The book that really blew me away, however, was "Dancing In The Shadows Of The Moon" by Machaele Small Wright. Here I learned that the author (with a bit of ingenius rewiring) actually WENT to this Planet Two, which, incidentally, is tucked away in a parallel dimension. She not only went there once but has visited the place on MANY occasions). Did I think the woman was a bit cuckoo when I read it? Not at all, in fact at the risk of sounding gullible or naive, it all seemed really quite plausable to me.

So, here I am stuck. What's really going on? Whilst I agree we all need to shed the light of God around the world as fast as humanly possible, is the dye cast? Is it just a question of time before something happens? The book of revelations (if you can get past the symbols and the cryptic messages) suggest it's going to be a big power struggle with certain countries around the world plus an anti Christ popping up and terror from the skies reigning upon the rest of us. That's pretty scary but if you look at what some so called scholars say about the Mayan Calendar the scene is not pretty either. Some claim it will be quite a few mega natural disasters that will turn this world upside down. So, I ask you...if anyone knows the answers to these questions could they let me know soon as soon as possible so I can get working on raising my vibrations and getting the hell out of here.

Thanks for your time.

Christine Magee
Australia

Akshay Mathur(Montréal)
April 20, 2008 6:26 PM

Hi Christine,

These are only my opinions and not meant to be disrespectful in any way.

Most of your queries seems to stem from either fear (“Getting the hell out of here”) or curiosity. Curiosity never leads one on the road to self discovery. When you remove curiosity god automatically leads you slowly to the next level of your understanding. If you learn something out of fear then you really don’t learn, as the idea is to unlearn the fear. So you really have to ask yourself to find the answers to your questions not anyone else.

Regarding the book of revelation it is, of what I understand, for the really advanced yogis, as it is mostly coded. You can’t take it literally. Of what little I know I can tell you that the seven candlesticks mentioned in the book are actually your seven charka (which are within each human as the Mūlādhāra, Svādhiṣṭhāna, Maṇipūra, Anāhata, Vishuddha, Ajna, Sahasrara), as per the teachings of Swami Sri Yukteshwar giri. These things are basically only experienced.

But this sense of urgency is never needed. The world is doomed so let me get out of here. Actually in the spiritual sense we are all connected so even if you were to get out you would compel yourself to come back and help those in need.

Akshay Mathur

Christine Magee
April 21, 2008 10:58 AM


Akshay,

Thank you for your response to my post. I guess it does sound as if I am coming from fear but that isn't the case. My comment of "getting the hell out of here" was an attempt to lighten a serious subject (sorry, I have a quirky sense of humour). Yes, curiosity is a trait of mine that more often or not leads me to ask more questions that are begging for answers. Over the years there has been so much written about these unstable times in which we live that it is little wonder that one tends to feel confused. I seek only truth but so many people claim to have a version of it, it's difficult to know what to believe. I will take your advice and release my curiosity in the hope that God will take me to the next level of understanding.

Thanks again,

Christine Magee


Akshay Mathur(Montréal)
April 21, 2008 8:11 PM

Hi Christine,

You are more than welcome. I know there are a lot of teachers out there yet we must always remember that the truth is within each one of us. It really boils down to how much love we give to who ever crosses our lives.

Peace,

Akshay

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