Conversations with God

What we can learn from our space brethren

Thursday May 29, 2008

The Phoenix has landed, and so we have another unmanned spacecraft on the planet Mars. And once again we are asking the question in very real terms, "Is there life out there?" Mars is 171 million miles from Earth, and...
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patricia
May 29, 2008 7:21 AM

Why are so many of us afraid to love each other?

Why can't we see our good?

Why do we look outside of ourselves for God?

Why do we judge each other?

Phyllis
May 29, 2008 7:24 AM

Yes, yes, yes I've been thinking about it! I love this topic!

***Ten Things Intelligent Beings From Outer Space Will Tell Us If And When They Arrive and Make Themselves Known Upon the Earth***

1) Hello, Earth Beings. We are happy to meet you!

2) No, you are not hallucinating. No, we are not "The Grays," but some of us do get a little ashy.

3) We will start the press conference as soon as Art Bell and Whitley Strieber get here.

4) And as soon as Al Gore arrives.

5) Now that we have all of you here, we would like to confirm that we have been watching you for a very long time. And from where we sit, we believe our perspective has allowed us to have a "knowing" about Life that has been difficult for most of you to attain from where you are, and we want to teach you, if you are willing to listen.

OKAY, I'M STUMPED at five. I have no clue what they would tell us. But I have been thinking that it would be THE GREATEST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN to us because it would allow people who never thought they could, to really question their sacred scriptures. Although I think I already heard about a Catholic priest or bishop or cardinal who was saying that even if there was extraterrestial life, it wouldn't necessarily negate all the stuff in the Bible. I think he rationalized that you could just say that it applies only to Earth people. (You know, the Earth people's God. I mean the Catholic one, at least.)

Anyway, I'm excited! I hope they find even the most primitive one-celled organism on Mars. Then people will see that we are really quite small, and that we are all in the same boat. Or on the same ball, flying around in endlessnesses. And that together we are endlessly powerful, but apart we are, well, we are what we are now. For the time being. Lost in space.

Go, Phoenix!

With Love and Light

Phyllis (NOTE TO NEALE--see response posted on Wednesday's blog--PEACE)

Hel
May 29, 2008 7:55 AM

billions of dollars are spent on a spacecraft yet we tell millions of people that their meager rations will have to be cut back because the World Food Program has to deal with the rising cost of gas, food etc. . . . how insane . . . we might want to clean up our own backyard (ie planet)first before we go looking into someone else's . . .

Dara
May 29, 2008 8:54 AM

How could there NOT be intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe? It's more mind-boggling to believe that it doesn't exist, than that it does. In fact, it seems inconceivable that anything as vast as this Universe has only one small occupied planet in it, and that WE are It's most highly evolved life forms. How disappointing. How LONELY to imagine we're it, and we're alone.

How about a list of ten questions I'd ask them instead:

1. Wow. Where are you from, and where'd you get that ride? 2. What is your fuel source? 3. Will you share your technology with us? 4. Do you know how to dispose of nuclear waste safely? 5. How many occupied planets are you aware of; how many have you been to; and how do they govern themselves? 6. How do life forms differ from planet to planet; is there any planet that has a collection of different interplanetary species (humanoid/other?) living together; and, if so, how's that working out? 7. Are there other planets warring the way we do? 8. What's the most amazing thing that you have seen in your travels? 9. Will you allow one/some of us to travel with you when you continue on you way? 10. Is this your first visit to Earth, and what is your opinion of humanity on planet Earth right now?

Glen S., OH
May 29, 2008 10:15 AM

You know what? I've come to the conclusion that any extra terrestrial beings out there that have any "intelligence" will probably keep their distance from us, because the truth is, we're not as intelligent as we like to think we are. In fact, based on how we behave toward one another and how we treat our planet, we probably appear quite primative and shallow. I wouldn't be surprised to discover that they are more uneasy and skeptical about us than we are about them, and with good reason. I suspect we are a greater threat to them than they are to us. What would they say to us? Hmmm... let's see...

1. Close your mouths; you look pretty stupid standing there with your mouths hanging open.

2. Surprise! It's not all about you any more. FYI, it never was.

3. Please put down your weapons. We aren't impressed with your arsenals and stockpiles, your bombs or your guns.

4. Don't worry. We don't want your planet. We like the one we've got. (Which, by the way, it appears you don't feel the same way about the one you've got.)

5. We've been waiting for several thousands of years to meet you, but you don't seem to deal well with people, er, beings, different from you. So, we've kept our distance.

6. You've been extremely entertaining to watch.

7. We can't wait for you to grow up so we can relate to you in positive ways.

8. When will you learn to share?

9. Where's the nearest bookstore? We want to buy Scott McLellan's new book! We hear it's worth the trip to get our hands on one.

10. Oh! By the way... God says to tell you "HI!"

:)

Loral
May 29, 2008 10:31 AM

If it happened that there were intelligent life on Mars, my beliefs would be even more justified, as God is the Universe in my thinking.

It's impossible for me to think there might not be intelligent life in the Universe. How arrogant are we to think we are the only intelligent creations!?

Those beings might ask us:

1. Why are you so afraid of everything?

2. Why do you think being happy is not God's plan for us?

3. Why do you see yourself different from any other people?

4. Why do you not give all living things equal worth?

5. Why do you waste so much time regretting or resenting?

6. We were given the 7 Deadly Sins, why do you not learn from them?

7. Why do religions fight wars, murder and preach hatred over which has the 'correct' God?

8. Why do you not rejoice in all your emotions, instead of drinking and drugging to quiet the ones you dislike?

9. Why do you not recognize the great power we all within us and use it for creating joy on earth?

10. Why do you ever feel a lack of self-worth?

11. Why do you exude arrogance as a defense?

.....and why did you ever doubt the great things of earth and this universe just because you can't easily see them?

Zachary
May 29, 2008 10:41 AM

I feel we have a tendancy to be a little hard on ourselves when we assume that if there is life beyond Earth it is frequently assumed that it has to be superior to us. Perhaps it is, but perhaps there are creatures just like us or maybe even less evolved. Maybe they are looking for help from us. Who knows? I find it fascinating to contemplate!

cassie
May 29, 2008 11:27 AM

ten things they'd tell us:

1. cant you see? your all connected - why then do you all fell so disconnected from not only things you can see, but the things you can not see.

2. war is silly - why is the concept of not killing each other seem "bad" or "wrong" to you?

3. sharing is good - not only for the whole, but for yourself - its literally good for your health! - remember, we're all connected.

4. seeing is not believing - "Just because you cant see something as true is no reason for you not to believe in it. Sometimes the things you cant see as true are the things that a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honour...courage and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that love....true love never dies. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because...those are the things worth believing in. Got that?" - Secondhand Lions (good movie)

5. fear is just an illusion (indeed, it ALL is :o) but isnt that beautiful?

6. stop damaging your planet - have you forgotten how beautiful it is? have you forgotten what real clean air smells like and how it feels when it slowly caresses your face? have you forgotten what clean water looks like - or the experience of crouching at a river to sip from it? All of that is possible - believe me!

7. lies are not easier to believe than real truths - stop convincing yourselves otherwise.

8. Life is LIMITLESS. why cant you see that everything you have ever wanted is at your feet - and that you can have it at anytime - all thats needed - all thats ever been needed was for you to bend down and CHOOSE to pick it up.

9. stop doubting yourself and believing that god is not within you. its whats ruining your life.

10. john lennon was right - all you need is love - because indeed - thats all there is! isnt it wonderful?

Melissa
May 29, 2008 1:11 PM

1) We really are all one
2) You are destroying the very world that is sustaining your life. Where do you expect to go when Earth can no longer sustain life?
3) No, you aren't seeing things, we do come visit.
4) You are all smarter than what we observe indicates.
5) The universe is more vast and beautiful than you can imagine. It is the height of arrogance to imagine you are alone.
6) Find common ground instead of divisions. You like to find every source of division you can
7) You are not evolved.
8) You would rather destroy yourselves than change, and you are rapidly creating that as your reality.
9) There is no death
10) Love really is all there is.

Charles Cosimano
May 29, 2008 1:15 PM

Oh, I think that if they could watch our sci-fi movies they would be impressed enough by our weapons to be hiding, which is why we don't find them, considering how efficiently we deal with alien invaders.

I think they would ask us two questions.

1: Do you have an efficient star drive yet as our rockets can't even get off Mars?

2: We need a good, efficient weapons system to wipe out the people on the other pole of the planet. Do you have one that you can sell us?

Do not make the mistake of thinking that folks on other planets are any more advanced or peace-loving that we are. They may be a lot less.

Shriram
May 29, 2008 1:46 PM


1) What we (humans) think is the problem is not really the problem.

2) Every soul housed in this wonderful planet has the gift and potential to make our own (individual and collective) lives work in extraordinary ways.

3) We are all brothers and sisters... and we've come to this world from the same spiritual realms. We're all connected... in fact, we're all ONE!

4) Move from a feeling of mere existence to the feeling that this life is an awesome opportunity to create something GRAND. Let your life lived be a work of Art!

5) Know that the universe is benign.

6) Use every opportunity (including challenges in life) to pour more light and love to the world and to every ONE around.

7) Inspire everyone whose life you touch so that their divine nature blossoms and expresses itself!

8) See our own planet Earth as sacred and abundant with what we require.

9) Seek to get in touch with the most precious part of yourself on a regular (daily) basis.

And finally, I believe they will say:
10) Come, let us hold hands... and celebrate LIFE together! We too are your brothers and sisters... so lets rejoice this moment because we've found each other at last!

Namaste,
SHriram.

Jeffrey
May 29, 2008 2:42 PM

Whatever they tell us, let's make sure it isn't an offer of salvation. Or their superior technology in exchange for a share of Earth's precious resources.

Let us be sure that they are respectful of our FREEDOM and our SOVERNIGNTY as sentient beings, and that they don't try and force (however subtly) their ways on us.

Rules of engagement should be of top priority in our minds as we become aware of the Greater Community.

Let us remember Who We Are.

Jeffrey
May 29, 2008 3:12 PM

Let us not assume that they are more highly evolved spiritually. At least the ones who are making first contact.

I would urge everyone here to check out www.alliesofhumanity.com
and see if the message resonates with you.

Peace and free will to all.

Jeffrey
May 29, 2008 3:16 PM

Also- Let's not assume that they are more evolved spiritually. At least the ones who are making first contact.

I would urge you all to check out www.alliesofhumanity.com and decide for yourself.

Peace and free will to all.

Clair
May 29, 2008 4:30 PM

Yes, intelligent life-forms exist through the cosmos. The implications being that we are not a lone species, but part of a web of consciousness that influences us and is in turn influenced by us.

It shows me that God enjoys creating, playing with an expressiveness of life and experiencing itself through that. As I contemplate this, I find that my ideas about God suddenly become more intimate, which is a surprise to me. God doesn't seem bigger, so much as closer to me, and I can't explain this, other than perhaps that as I think about God, there it is, or so I am.

My experience of God takes place in my heart. I don't have changing beliefs about what God wants or doesn't want in relation to its creation. But I have a knowing, if that may describe it, that God desires expansiveness of all that it has created, and that includes a change of form as part of that.

I hesitate to list things that intelligent beings would tell us, as my experience has been that they are far more interested in us and what we think, and how, than trying to impose their perspectives upon us. I was asked if I was joyful to speak with them (and I was), if there are wars within our world, and why did I think these were being created?

Their contribution to me, I think, has simply been a sense of peace, of being held within love. Of being shown that many voices can speak as one, in absolute harmony of sound - of the value of listening to one another, rather than trying so hard to be heard. That humanity is evolving and there is reason to be joyful in what we are and will become. We are the one's we've been waiting for, for they are to us as we are to them, curving back in on ourselves and beholding one another. We are one.

Namaste.

Karthik
May 29, 2008 5:37 PM

I think you should read Thioouba's (pronounced Hioova's) prophecy. It is an account of a person who went to a planet called Thioouba and there the beings (HEB's) of that planet had something to share about what was going on our planet. You can download the free ebook here - http://www.thiaoouba.com/
Neale - I thought you would be really interested as would be others in this book, especially since HEB's are discussed in CWG 3.
P.S.: Even if you were to read the book as science fiction, it would be unbelievable science fiction, since the ideas discussed there are out of the world - literally!

William
May 29, 2008 8:22 PM

Inasmuch as human beings can barely tolerate "other" human beings whose epidermal layers are a different shade than "theirs", I cannot imagine encounters with sentient life forms from different locations in space as being anything but disappointing, regardless of the intentions of either of the parties.
If other life forms are puzzled as to why they exist, they can be of no help to us. If they became present to us to inform us of why we (or they) exist, we would not believe them.

BryOnTheRoad
May 29, 2008 10:01 PM

· Jesus Christ, didn’t you ever hear of hailing frequencies!
· Everything you’ve ever thought was relevant is irrelevant!
· Everything you’ve ever imagined about this encounter is true – we’ve been communicating with your imaginations for centuries.
· We are not superior to you - - - unless we are.
· As you can see - we don’t have clothes. Christ we’ve been in space for 10,000 years.
· Our prime directive is that we not interfere with your civilization…but that seems unavoidable… we’ve disabled all of your weapons.
· No we don’t want to meet with George Bush.
· Oh … you think that’s funny …do ya … well Global Warming doesn’t exist. You lack the basic knowledge of our solar system to even begin to comprehend why the Earth has frozen and thawed itself 7 times.
· We appreciate your massive ego in thinking you have controlled the weather…after all we are standing here having a conversation in which my ego seems to be growing by the minute.
· There's enough - enough of everything! let's put it this way ... we've been looking down at Earth from Space .... 70% of your planet is water - of which 90% you have not charted ... and of the 30% on land mass you have .... 98% of it is not occupied. So you humans - actually only occupy less the 1/10th of 1 percent of the Earth. That is why we said upon our arrival that everything you ever thought was relevant - was actually irrelevant! Your existence has the same affect has one peeble has in Lake Michigan.

BryOnTheRoad
May 29, 2008 10:07 PM

· Jesus Christ, didn’t you ever hear of hailing frequencies!
· Everything you’ve ever thought was relevant is irrelevant!
· Everything you’ve ever imagined about this encounter is true – we’ve been communicating with your imaginations for centuries.
· We are not superior to you - - - unless we are.
· As you can see - we don’t have clothes. Christ we’ve been in space for 10,000 years.
· Our prime directive is that we not interfere with your civilization…but that seems unavoidable… we’ve disabled all of your weapons.
· No we don’t want to meet with George Bush.
· Oh … you think that’s funny …do ya … well Global Warming doesn’t exist. You lack the basic knowledge of our solar system to even begin to comprehend why the Earth has frozen and thawed itself 7 times.
· We appreciate your massive ego in thinking you have controlled the weather…after all we are standing here having a conversation in which my ego seems to be growing by the minute.
· The view from space has been grand! You humans occupy less the 1/10th of 1 percent of the planet. That is why we stated that everything you've thought was relevant up until now - is actually irrelevant.

Phyllis
May 30, 2008 1:06 AM

Good point about not assuming the extraterrestrials are more superior than us (although if they showed up for a visit, it would surely mean technologically so), and very good point that they would not necessarily be more spiritually evolved.

We would probably learn more about ourselves not from anything they could tell us, but by finding out the truth that they actually exist.

The knowledge of their existence would be explosive. It would devastating for some because it would shatter their life-long belief systems. For others, it would exhilarating, because they would have confirmation that what they always felt--that there must be MORE than this to Life--is true not just metaphysically but in physical reality.

But just think, even if there is only evidence of some sort of past, primitive life-form on Mars, and scientists can prove we didn't somehow accidentally bring it there but we found it there, then there is evidence of LIFE. Life. Life! On one of those cold, faraway planets. I hope it happens in my lifetime. If it happens, I believe humans will begin a new era in our spiritual evolution. I'm ready.

Phyllis
May 30, 2008 1:09 AM

I meant "superior to us" rather than "more superior than us." Not sure if that was a Freudian slip or what. Yeah, we are superior, all right. Who could be more superior . . . ?

Ernst Robert Almgren
May 30, 2008 2:56 AM

What would the space invaders ask the west?

Since all people here (not to anyone’s surprise :)) expect the aliens to be just as political correct and liberal as themselves I guess I have to be the only one offering a different perspective. Don’t you think the aliens could be “conservative” in some things, or even for a different ruling then representative democracy or even anarchists or “nationalistic”? These are not all my opinions but I don’t think its impossible that an alien could have them, you don’t have to be a liberal to be intelligent or advanced, I think history has proven that, so here is what I think they could ask, of course first to the west and America since you are so great (lol):

1. Why don’t you have a politics that more strongly force people to save the planet from pollution and overpopulation? Why don’t you for instance force the oil companies and car manufactories to start working on alternative energy sources? And why don’t you say to third world countries; use birth control or we won’t send anymore money? In the west the birth-rates are steadily decreasing and even if you want you can’t solve the question by bringing the people from the third world to the west, they will still be too many to feed. And you won’t solve it by stopping to have children in the west because that just means that you will be replaced by other peoples faster then you already are which is not going to solve anything in terms of economics or overpopulation.

2. Why don’t you see the differences between different human races on your planet as something beautiful and respect those who wish to live separately from others and also respect those who wish to “mix” with others? But most of all to respect sovereign nations that have wish to keep their demographics the way they had for thousands of years. There is still enough space on this planet to share between those who wish to live in a different way and those who want. By the way why does only the western world embrace multiethnic societies and not China or Africa and so on, do you think you know better then them about this?

3. Why do you in the west celebrate people who are proud of being sexually attracted to things, people or in ways that can’t reproduce? Is it to stop overpopulation? Then why isn’t it like this in technically underdeveloped countries where they reproduce 10 times faster then you? Or is it because you think you know better about sexuality then those living in poor countries? Why cant sex as long as it doesn’t force anyone or involve children just be a private thing? And why do you start pregnancies and then kill the child before being born, wouldn’t it be better to not have sex in the first place, unless it was a rape? And by the way why don’t you sterilize rapists?

4. Why do the more developed countries in Europe and the west give away their resources to technically less developed countries and even more corrupted governments without demanding that they improve and respect human rights and instead let the leaders live in luxury and buy weapons of mass destruction to later use against you?

5. Why do the more developed and richer countries in the west spend more money on immigrants coming to their country from the third world then to spend the same money 20 times more efficiently in the country they are running from or at least in a country nearby so they don’t have runaway so far from their original culture which can and often do cause rootless-ness and ethnic conflicts? Why is it better to have one of these immigrants living in luxury in the western world then to help 20 people from starving in their homeland?

6. By the way is Islam becoming your new world religion? Since the Muslims for instance can build a mosque in the centre of Rom but the Christians are not allowed to build a church in Saudi Arabia, then how do this correlate with your positive view on Homosexuals, communists and women’s rights? Why can’t you leave the Muslim countries alone but also ask them to leave you alone?

7. Why are you against discrimination toward immigrants from the third world in the west and not against racism and discrimination against those who are Europeans? Isn’t everybody equal in your ideology? And how can you say everyone has the same value, does that mean that you would value Hitler (if he lived) as much as your own mother or husband or something similar? Why do you consider all peoples except the Europeans as minorities when the Europeans are only ten percent of the world population? Why are all peoples exotic and exciting except Europeans according to you? Do you hate yourself?

8. Why do you let people that can’t even spell their own name or much less decide political questions or even know the name of their current leader decide over your countries future? Like one of your earthlings (Winston Churchill) said: "the best example against democracy is speaking 15 minutes with the average voter. Why don’t you at least have a simple knowledge test about politics that you have to pass for voting? But now, if you really believe in democracy then why don’t you have a system were you measure politicians on their knowledge and abilities to lead a country instead of his looks or ability to sweet-talk the masses? Or why don’t you have direct-democracy like in Switzerland so everyone can decide also in the small questions between the elections of parties and not just vote for one political party that can destroy your country for four years without you the average voter being able to do or say nothing?

9. Why do your televisions and newspapers speak so much about entertainment made up of porn and violence and so little about health, environment and things that matters for your future, and most of all about what you can really do to change your planet?

10. Why is history written by people who only distort it? Why do you put people in prison who questions parts of it? Or ridicule people who wish to discuss what you call “forbidden archaeology”? Why do you have black history month and similar subjects in the school but not the same for white Europeans? Isnt the white accomplishments like reaching the moon , using electricity, creating philosophy, democracy, classical music, paintings of Leonardo da vinci and prince Eugen, building the first cars and computers, the best medical accomplishments the biggest organisations for animal rights, the mostly developed rights for women and so on enough? How can you plan your future without knowing your real past?

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Zane
May 30, 2008 4:32 AM

1.You already have all the answers to all the questions you could ever think of to ask us.

2.You have had these answers for a long time.

3.You have simply forgotten how to hear them.

4.You have become slaves to your egos.

5.Why do you hold up the random scribbling of fearful men who lived 5000 years ago and call it “The Ultimate Truth”?

6.Why do you rely on others to tell you what to believe?

7.What are you so afraid of?

8.Fear not! (Sound familiar? We’ve been here before).

9.You create what you believe.

10.Change what you believe and you shall change your world.

cassie
May 30, 2008 12:34 PM

BryOnTheRoad - ummm i know that the gasses we've been putting in our air is having a major effect - which makes it different from the past times the earth has frozen and defrosted. maybe you could check out alluc.org and check out some documentaries. im not an environmentalist - but a few in my family are - and i cant even begin to tell you all the debates we've had during dinner over that same statement. but i think your wrong - we do need to take responsibility the damage we've done. go back to the march 27 blog. http://blog.beliefnet.com/conversationswithgod/2008/03/global-warming-a-hoax.html

akademiker private krankenversicherung
May 30, 2008 2:57 PM

you imagine what kind of uproar it would create if we discovered life on Mars right now? Whoa. We're talking major upheaval here. I mean, what if it turns out that there is so-called "intelligent life" elsewhere in our solar system -- or elsewhere in our galaxy, at least. Or even, if you please, somewhere else in the Universe.the more developed countries in Europe and the west give away their resources to technically less developed countries and even more corrupted governments without demanding that they improve and respect human rights and instead let the leaders live in luxury and buy weapons.

Anonymous
May 30, 2008 11:01 PM

Hi Cassie - The concentration of Co2 in the atmosphere is a tiny fraction of all of the gases. The ratio of man-made Co2 to non-man made co2 is 5/95.
It hasn't been established what percentage of mans man-made Co2 is not natural. But I understand that you have read many articles about how the greenhouse gas co2 - will cause our planet's temp to rise. And I am sure that those articles made perfect sense.

The Polar Ice Sheets grew extensively in the 70's - and many people became alarmed because they assumed that somehow man was causing an Ice Age.
The Ice that is melting now is most likely quite natural - and not the result on man-made co2.
I believe in one theory - that I understand that you may not believe in, Cassie.
Energy radiated in = energy radiated out. No matter what form the energy takes.

Please convince me that I am not thinking right.

Please tell me which temp we should be at ?
Was it the temp in 1970 ? In 1980 ? In 1950 ? in 1965, 1987,1998,1999,2000,2001,2002 or 1876?

Until we declare which is the optimum temp. for the planet - how can we even have a discussion?

We have to agree on some entry point - so if you tell me which temp average the Earth was meant to be at - I may be able to think better.

Thanks !

Gerald
May 31, 2008 7:02 AM

To the poster who replied to Cassie:

Here in Switzerland, Global Warming is very real. Check out the picture gallery of glaciers in the Swiss Alps >= 100 years ago compared to today: http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/multimedia/picture_gallery.html?siteSect=15075&sid=7023638

In fact, Andreas Goetz, the vice president of the Swiss version of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), announced yesterday in the Swiss news that they think the consequences of the rise of the permafrost border in the Swiss Alps going to cost about 100 - 150 million US dollars a year due to more flooding and landslides, and areas that used to be stable won't be any more.

Jolita Kelias
May 31, 2008 9:53 AM

What a silly question!!!

Of course, there is other lives in the galaxy!!! Why anyone should doubt it?!! Only arogant, selfish, narrow minded egoists can think that they are the only ones in this Universe.

And that others already communicates with us, but with great respect, because they know how primitive and closed minded we are, and that we are still developing.

Love, Jolita

Aurora
May 31, 2008 2:08 PM

If we discover life on Mars right now, I think that someone (even a nation or ruling government) would make haste to claim the fame of having been the first to discover life on MARS. The first action will be to profit from this discovery. After we established who gets all the acclaim, then we'll decide what to do about this E.T. life form.
If the life form can communicate with us, here is what I think it would say:
1. You're definitely not the only ones in the universe.
2. The universe WAS created by God.
3. We have much better technology than you do.
4. Why do you not have only one government?
5. You look really, really weird to us.

Anonymous
May 31, 2008 11:37 PM

Hi Gerald - thanks for the photo.
Great views from 1906 and 2003.
You must be saying that the optimum temp for Earth was the temp in the year 1906. and that glaciers changing size and shape is a bad thing, caused by our activity.

Does anyone disagree that glaciers do not stay the same size decade after decade - century after century.

Global Warming and Global Cooling are as natural as wind, rain and snow.
We know - that before the invention of the thermometer we didn't know what the temp average was ... But we DO KNOW that glaciers have melted and formed.

I don't understand why so many people - like Al Gore - a take naturally occurring phenomina and blame it on man.

We were told by Gore and others that massive Hurricanes are increasing because of man ... and the last two years, the Hurricane seasons have been very mild.

Yet, I know that had the Hurricane seasons been terrible ... millions of people would have blamed that on man ....

You, Gerald are doing a huge disservice to out youth - by blaming natural weather on man ....

BryOnTheRoad
June 1, 2008 8:47 PM

When people use photographs of glacial retreats as proof that the glacier should not be shrinking - they really are showing an incredible lack of logic.
The basic principles of photography have existed since the time of the ancient Greeks - however, we don't have any photo's of the most recent major glacial formation changes. That is a period between 1250 and 1650 that we now call The Little Ice Age.
The Little Ice Age brought bitterly cold winters to many parts of the world, but is most thoroughly documented in Europe and North America. In the mid-17th century, glaciers in the Swiss Alps advanced, gradually engulfing farms and crushing entire villages.
This glaciers of course have retreated.

What if someone would have taken photographs [The Arabs actually had invented a camera - that would have worked] of the glaciers shriking back in 1650? - and then taken those photos to all the leaders of the world and screamed "CATASTROPHE" ? What would that prove?

It would have proved that I was a doofis - who didn't realize that the number cause of global warming is THE SUN - and the solar activity.

The Sun radiates energy to Earth and the Earth radiates that exact - I MEAN THAT EXACT - amount of energy back.

So - people .... stop and use your noggins.
The reason the Earth has froze and defrosted on numerous occasions - and at different locations - has nothing to with goofy Al Gore's Co2.
Global Warming alarmists are perpetrating and participating in a massive con. It's like trying to blame man for the leaves falling off the trees in the forest.

What would Al Gore blab now, if the Dust bowl happened between 2008 and 2018 - instead of the 1930's.

Global warmers won't even debate. Does anyone realize that Al Gore has never debated anyone ? In fact, If anyone has a link for me to find a debate between anyone [doesn't have to be Gore] on the subject - please send it.

That's what logical, rationale, sane and civilized people do. But what the Goreridians are doing is making claims of catastrophe and calling for every man and women an child on the Earth to change our way of life ....

The socializers of the world didn't get it done with socialism or communism - so now they're on to another idea ....

Blake Hayner
June 3, 2008 1:19 AM

Superior beings are atheists, why would you think they would be spiritual? Belief in a deity is primitive thinking. Believeing in each other is advanced thinking. Stop dreaming like an ape.

Blake Hayner
June 3, 2008 2:04 AM

Why would a Higher Evolved Being (HEB) believe in God? What would be the point? Humans need to have their beliefs in their deities to support the bad things humans do to one another. We kill in the name of our Gods, we lament in the name of our Gods for all the bad things that happen to ourselves. We play God. We act like Gods. We create like Gods.

HEB’s believe in themselves and in one another and all living matter. They believe in the process of life. HEBs understand relationships between what is and what isn’t. What would be the point in believing in a God if you knew intuitively that God is an egotistical excuse to control others?

Why would a HEB waste their time and effort creating a deity to worship when worshipping yourself and others is enough?

Higher technology is a human conception for an advanced being. HEBs are advanced thinkers, which mean that a HEB wouldn’t need to think he would need a God to live effectively.

I wonder if the atheists are the advanced thinkers on Earth and we spiritual folk are still in the Stone Age.

Blessings

Blake Hayner

Regina39
June 3, 2008 12:55 PM

Did anyone ever stop to think that HEB are the same as us, that the spirit, energy, soul, whatever you want to call it, is the same in us as it is in them, and they are only advanced because we see them that way, and maybe just maybe they are us, in a more enlightened form of evolution, and God is just as real, or more real to them than to us, maybe they are what we become in a later stage of our 'awakening' and if this is true, then they might have a lot to say to us, but they see us as being 'in the process' so why bother, kind of like we do our babies, we can only tell them so much when they are infants, and we have no idea how much they actually absorb, but as they grow they forget the things they witness in the womb and as infants, but that does not mean that our existance at the parent is any less important, I would not say the HEB would be athiest anymore than I would say a bird or a tree was athiest, we think to human to understand the concept of other being, we think to physical, which we are not, this is only the limited world we live in at this time so we can 'process' what we remember of our former selves, I look forward to one day leaving this form and taking another, and I hope it's even more strange and wonderful weird than this human body I am in at the present...Anyone remember the name of the old Star Trek Movie where the Probe comes in contact with the Enterprise and it has travelled space and gathered so much knowledge that it becomes sentient and aware and is looking for its' maker the Creator, it calls itself VEGER, or something like that...anyway, it's a cool concept, you all should watch it... the theories are sound.... love to all who embrace it.

Regina39
June 3, 2008 2:08 PM

To comment on Global Warming, yes the sun is a major factor in this event, and yes it is a 'natural' event BUT we do have a part to play in the evolution of this earth we live on, we change the face of it everyday, with every action there is a reaction, and we as the inhabitants are making changes and not all for the 'betterment' of our home, and maybe some think that this home does not matter because we are just here to become enlightened and move on to something else, but part of our enlightenment is the 'restoration and creation' of life. Not the destruction of it and not the technology that makes everything seem easier, when most of it actually makes us 'lazy' and complacent.
REMEMBER THE TREES...they give us shelter, and they have the burden of keeping the sun off our backs and the air we breath, and just in case no one stopped to think, or wonder, they are here as observers, the spirit that resides in them stands in one spot and at the mercy of all creatures around them, they for one, can not get 'out of lifes way' as it happens all around them, we as an enlightened species should take a moment to nurture and care for the things that nurture and care for us.
We have everything we need here to live and be healthy in this body we chose, as long as we do not 'destroy' it first, which we 'can' and will do eventually if we do not 'RESPECT LIFE' outside ourselves..part of our problem of not remembering 'who we are' is that we also do not understand and remember 'who anyone else is' either.
So if you are so inclined to believe that we as man are not to blame for the changes on this planet, look again, we do have an effect, it is all cause and effect, it may be natural, but even nature has laws and tearing down the things that 'sustane' the physical world will eventually have adverse effects on it....so as much as neglect affect the human body so does it effect this planet....REMEMBER THE TREES.
They stand silently by for years and observe and ob - serve us.

BryOnTheRoad
June 5, 2008 11:40 PM

Tree's are a wonderful amazing gift from nature.
Tree's are also renewable plant life.
No different than plant life - like a stalk of corn or a vine of grapes.

God has given is plants to use.

Tree's happen to live much longer and serve a different purpose.
Humans don't usually eat tree's - but we use their material - and we call it wood.
Tree's do a great job of renewing themselves - but man has figured out [just like growing vegetables] how to grow tree's.
Old growth is just a term for older tree's.
There will always be older trees on this planet.
Let's not get nutty with saving tree's.
They provide habitat - for animals and when they are gone - animals will move to another habitat.

We have enough tree's.

They are great and we can use them.

Morlok
June 7, 2008 3:43 AM

Wals! Please ask God is there life on Mars?

Morlok
June 7, 2008 3:54 AM

Or about Atlantis... I want to know!!! I want to know what killed the Dinosaurs, how many planets in Alpha Centauri or Sirius System. Who are the Grey aliens and if the Multiverse Real? Please could you help me to know it. Could you ask God? Please! I have a lot of questions bot NO ANSWERS...

Kodo Miskovich
June 7, 2008 9:04 PM

I am interesting in these questions too. I am wondering why no person ask Neale about hem??

Morlok
June 8, 2008 3:18 AM

Yes. Every person on this blog want to speak about anything but not about these problems. They are interesing! Maybe I don't understeand humans...

Lisa Augustine
June 8, 2008 9:41 AM

The Ten things other beings will tell us:

1- You guys have no idea what a beautiful planet you have., but why are you trashing it and killing it?

2- You are the least of all the planets, but the Creator has blessed you out of all of us because He always seems to choose the least to bless for His Highest Will.

3- As with you human beings, Not all other beings have accepted the Light yet, so be careful who your governments make deals with. Use wisdom. Eventually all in the universe will come back to God

4- All of Earth's sufferings and trials are but stepping stones. Footstools for you to climb closer to God's Love.

5- (the following was given to me in a dream by an unknown servant of God .. an angel, or Nature guardian?: "You are helping the flower to seed; All things are precious".

(I will finish the list later... will be back later today to complete it!

Lisa Augustine
June 8, 2008 5:08 PM

K, i'm back..

Here is the remainder of the list:

6- "You humans don't realize that all of your stress emotions, wars, tension and negative thoughts are emitting negative energy into the Universe which attracts other negative minded beings to take notice of your planet and plot moves to use you as part of their fear-based agendas. If you would reject negativity and raise your vibration to a higher level, you will create a positive ripple effect that will emit like radio wavs from your universe, and will then become a positive pattern of energy to enhance the solar system.

7- Plllleeease , Please, for the love of God clean up your satellite mess up in Space! Oh, and by the way... Take care of cleaning up Earth first, then you will finally be ready to station yourself on other planets. In this sense, Charity begins at your Earth home first, then you are ready to spread your influence to outer regions.

8- You need not fear us, though we should fear you, as many of our people who have come in peace have been abducted by your governments, tortured painfully and put to death. On the other hand, those beings with selfish motives in contact with your governments are treated royally. You make trade offerings with them because they appeal to your pride while carrying out their hidden agendas against your planet.

9- "Do you not yet realize that your planet is a Living Being and that all of the climatic natural disasters happening on your planet are your Earth's detox reactions to dis-ease you have inflicted upon Earth?

10- Many of us walk among you in disguise- assigned by God to assist your planet, we do so out of love for God. We do it for His sake because He loves you more than you can imagine.

maacespana
June 8, 2008 5:25 PM

It would be very arrogant to believe that we are the only beings in existence. I don't need science to confirm their existence. If we came to be, so did others. What makes us think we are so special to the point that no others can exist?. Lisa I know that what you are saying is true. I had dream/visions and saw other beings (dull blue/grey). And I knew they were real. I was also aware that I was in my dream state. They had messages for humankind. Unfortunately as soon as I woke up I couldn't remember. Though I tried to. Love and Peace always

maacespana
June 8, 2008 5:41 PM

Hi, Lisa, I was writing a statement and in it I said that I believed what you said, I posted it, and then my statement disappeared and yours came in. Is this a coincidence? I don't believe in such. What ever happened to my post is not important. I like that you were able to finish what you started. It is wonderful to know what they think and what they are making us aware of. Love and Peace Always.

Lisa Augustine
June 8, 2008 5:42 PM

Regarding the dinasours:

My pastor .. a very spiritual man who has a personal relationship with God was asked about the dinasours at a youth retreat he serves at by some young child.

He felt to tell this boy a theory he had that wasn't confirmed by the Holy Spirit, but could possibly be some Light on the subject:

Here is the theory. Even this pastor says it is not definitely true, but a possible explanation:


Before Lucifer seperated himself from God, he was a co-creator with God and had the priviledge of sharing in creating Earth as well as the dinasours and other primitive things of that period of Earth.

Then after Lucifer left God's presence, taking many angels with him, there was a "cause and effect" result on Earth that resulted in either a meteor impact, or other disaster that left the Earth in ruins, killing everything in its wake. My pastor went on to say that whatever we do in spirit has a direct result in the Physical Realms. It's one of the Laws of the Universe, and so God did not CAUSE the Earth to become in ruins. It happened as a result of Lucifer's decisions to seperate from Oneness with God.

After the disaster on Earth and the death that ensued, God, with many of His servants and angels went about the Planet, and it broke God's heart to see the ruins and death , chaos and corruption.

This is where the book of Genesis begins, where God RESTORES the Earth seperates the confusion and chaos, seperates the Elements and sanctifies the Earth, re-establishing order from ruins.

Then He re-creates life.. creating the Plant Kingdoms, humans and a New Animal Kingdom.

While He and the angels are restoring the planet, Satan looks with resentment because it was almost like this new restoration taking place on Earth was a slap in his own face. He remembered the reptiles he helped to create with God beforehand. He also wasnt too thrilled in thier destruction, but he failed to admit that his own departure from spiritual laws inadvertantly caused the Earth's original ruins. He blamed that on God instead and He since that time, he set his agenda to disrupt and corrupt, always trying to create new ruins on the Earth to mess God's work.

His first point of action was to corrupt these new human beings created... appealing to Eve first. Then after he got the humans to backslide spiritually, he already had the future destruction of the Earth "in the bag".

In this present generation, he continues to seduce and appeal to man's vanity, lust, Ego and Pride of Life to continue his plans of destruction for this planet.. A goal he has had since that day he observed God restoring Earth from the ruins that killed the dinasours.

In spite of his plans, God is ever the restorer or ruins. God's Agenda is to restore mankind to his former Oneness with God and then THROUGH man, to restore the Earth to it's former beauty from the ruins of man-made pollution and chaos that man has caused by listening to Satan's voice in this age.

On Earth As in Heaven :-)

Lisa Augustine
June 8, 2008 5:47 PM

maacespana,

when you said: "Lisa I know that what you are saying is true. I had dream/visions and saw other beings (dull blue/grey). And I knew they were real. I was also aware that I was in my dream state. They had messages for humankind. Unfortunately as soon as I woke up I couldn't remember. Though I tried to."


Please don't be discouraged if you don't remember what they said. These messages are embedded in your spirit, and though your mind doesn't remember them, your spirit does. They will produce fruit at God's appointed time in your life and the life of others.

Hugs
Lisa

Lisa Augustine
June 8, 2008 5:51 PM

maacespana .. wow, I don't believe in cooincidences either!

I see your new post here, but I don't see the one I just typed !

I was just going to say .. don't be discouraged if you don't recall what these beings in your dream state told you , because though your mind doesn't recall, it's embedded in your spirit. What you were told will be recalled at the right time.

Hugs,
Lisa

maacespana
June 8, 2008 7:33 PM

This one is in answer to the one that doesn't understand about all that is happening in the world. The climate changes and the concern of all those that see the truth of what's happening. You don't agree about global warming being a true fact and that we are the cause of if. You said very well, " I don't understand". You need not be afraid of learning about the power of our minds. You see, thought is pure energy (positive and negative), depending on the way we think that's how that energy projects and it really affects everything it touches. Earth is alive and is suffocating. OUR NEGATIVE ENERGY IS DOING IT. (Imagine millions of people having negative thoughts).We are destroying Her. She doesn't need us. We do need her to survive. I would ask you to reconsider what you believe to be true, you might be surprised of your findings. Your thoughts are very important as every else's. We are all one. Love and Peace Always.

maacespana
June 8, 2008 7:52 PM

Hi, Lisa, I didn't see your response before, I am so busy trying to read and learn different thoughts. Thank you for your positive reply. The first message that you didn't see in your screen I can see in mine.I know it was meant to be. You and I communicating. Lisa since my awakening in 2005 I know what is true and what is not most of the time. It is a undiscribable feeling. You simply know. The same way sometimes I know when something will be or it won't. In other words you can recognize truth. Love and Peace. Always.

man poring water
June 8, 2008 9:32 PM

www.jesusiterpreted.ca -first thought of life is the father speaking to you -your movement is your mother god pushing your awareness back to the image in first thought- that when found -speaks to the self its own interpreted logic that interpretes the imsage into knowledge -this is his speach to you giving you logic and its knowledge giving you life in knowing -what comes through the spiritual heart is the love jesus spoke to it when he wa here- that his spirit still speaks- your holy trinity is this -you -the fourth who follows truth in thought and emotionnal truth -is the follower -when the self denies truth or rejects truth in the emotional self as the result of emotional reaction to awareness is not following the light -you need to know more -youtube -proof of evil and proof of light in video -not mine but of those who seek truth like we do -manpouringwater on utube -he with our mother god comes in 2012 dec. 21 -mabee at 11:11-am or pm?-when they come they will look for the ones who calculate our forethought with te fathers elemental wholy spirit -tell everyone

man poring water
June 8, 2008 9:36 PM

manpouringwater -utube -www.jesusinterpreted.ca -his codes interpreted reveal a knowledge of a spoken language with the wholy trinity inside the self -it is speaking to god the father of truth -it is a real relationship with god -it is what we need to know to prepare ourselves for the end of this tije in 2012 21 dec-

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