Many people may feel threatened and may become angry by what will be appearing in this blog on Sundays between now and Christmas. Yet in a society that is based on the free flow of ideas, that should not stop...
The statement that "the kingdom of God is within us" came to me just now. This saying cannot be understood in the analytical mind; which uses polarity thinking to find solutions to its perceived problems.
Right/wrong thinking is the EGO's way of reasoning out finite concepts to come up with even more finite solutions. The only way to overcome the governments of men is to transcend them, not to try to improve them.
The inner man of the heart has no desire to fix, improve or correct the outer world. It knows there is no reality in it because the physical world exists in space and time which are finite. However in setting the inner "infinite" kingdom in order the outer realms will be transcended.
At the point of awakening to our spiritual identity, the inner man is able to transcend the outer realms and not assign them any reality or power. This perfect view of self gives us the realization that all that God has is ours. We are one with the source of all wisdom, life and love.
I and my Father are one and everything contrary to that view, is an illusion created in the ego mind. I have been given dominion over all power of the enemy. There is no outward enemy in reality; the only enemy you and I have is our imperfect view of self or EGO.
It is in the correct view of self "as perfect and one", that we transcend this world and its governments which were created through fear and a wrong "finite" identity. What is happening is we are awakening to our perfection, and in this identity we are healing how we view the outer world. No man can take our peace from us when we know who we are.
Namaste, Neale.
Deb
June 22, 2008 11:16 AM
Hi Neale,
I believe God wants/expects something different from each of us because we are uniquely made. God knows we are doing our best.
If each of us chose to be our brother's keeper, secure in the knowledge that each of us is perfectly loved by God, that there is nothing we could do to endanger that love, the 'sibling rivalry' that generates greed, jealousy, and low self-esteem would gradually dissipate. Eventually, there would be world peace.
I agree with Carrie, "No man can take our peace from us when we know who we are."
The divine beauty of God has been misunderstood for too long.
Wishing you continued good health.
Deb Reilly
Marko- Milwaukee Wiconsin USA
June 22, 2008 2:06 PM
For many not versed in metaphysics God has a very different meaning and feel that most likely will only gradually change and evolve over time, not overnight as many new agers think.
God has it all and great self esteem to boot. So God needs nothing from us.
Yet, we have our own desires that we create for better or worse depending on our awareness ability and demonstration of the ability.
The key is not what God wants but what we want/desire. That may be based in part or in whole on how we view God or life.
If we see that God needs or wants nothing from us, we are free to do as we please in as much as our awareness can demonstrate that. Which usually, is in many varying stages and degrees.
These degrees, change as we evolve our awareness individual and collective.
The post here seems mostly hype of things to come. I might suggest get right to the point and move into that space if you desire to quicken the awareness.
Of course you may be speaking to the larger public not aquainted in CwG or metaphysical material.
God needs nothing. Yet we do, or, at least we desire to at this stage of the game, How well and how fast we do that is based on our current evolving awareness.
BryOnTheRoad
June 22, 2008 2:41 PM
Human History has revealed:
A constant struggle on the planet based on the existence of barbaric, brutal and heinous [for lack of better terms] people.
For whatever reason, there's never a shortage of these people.
We know doing nothing with these people always makes them more brazin - and we know that fighting back works - but always ends up causing collateral damage.
We don't want to fight back - because we know that invariably a whole bunch of innocent people will be killed in the process.
That's the whole story of Darfur, Iraq and several other places on the planet right now.
In Iraq - known mass graves equal more than 400,000 - and the villagers tell us that we have only found less than half of the grave sites.
We also know that when the various Muslim factions in Iraq battle each other - that they go right to killing women and children and hide in hospitals and schools. So we fight carefully - or not all.
Same with the Muslim leaders in The Sudan. They hide is areas with women and children - so we would have to kill a whole bunch of children in order to root out the Barbarism is the Sudan.
Changing the mindset of Muslims isn't am option.
No matter how many times I read the CWG trilogy - I have never come to he conclusion that Ismalic radicals - who wake up in the morning with thinking of ways to kill Jews and Infidels - and who pound that message into their children's head like we do the ABC's - have the rationale to change their minds.
Yet, we must strive to change - hence Neale's material is worthwhile.
We don't have to agree - but I think we owe to ourselves to find any value and run with it.
But know this:
No matter if Obama or McCain wins - the USA has already made it clear that we will not be another Israel. [by that, I mean - we have had zero Islamic terrorist attacks on US soil since 9-11 - whereas, Israel has been having them for decades - on average about once a week].
And no matter how much anyone hates Bush on this Earth - find one person who thought on September 12th, 2001 - that Al Queda would be virtually wiped out - except for pockets in Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Syria - and that we would have had no further Muslim attacks.
Don't misunderstand my comments - I am not saying Bush has been brilliant or that he hasn't made a ton of mistakes.
All I'm saying that is If Barack Obama is our president - and Muslim's attack again .... Obama will unleash the full fury of the US Military upon those terrorists. [and yes, that means any women and children they are hiding by] Barack will have no choice but do so. The United States for all our faults and poor decisions - will end up having to make a decision that will affect the whole planet.
1- We allow Muslim radicals to exist.
2- We hunt down every last one of them until they surrender or are dead.
There will be no in-between - even if Barack Obama is the President - he will realize that.
Anonymous
June 22, 2008 2:54 PM
Neale, I tried to log onto the Messenger's circle and this is what I get: Hacked By aLpTurkTegin Turkish Hacker!!! I hope this isn't a setback. Just wanted to let you know.
Bruce
June 22, 2008 4:10 PM
When the American Presidential election is over and all of the dust from its created controversies has settled then what will we do?
What with all of the excitement generated over the potential to elect either the first woman or the first black person to what is arguably the most powerful position among humans that we as humanity have ever established; will we once again forget the purpose of the exercise?
We humans are all riding on the same train and going in the same direction together; whether we agree on the notion or not.
Some of us enjoy the view from the left side others prefer the view from the right but none the less our collective actions or inactions continue to cause this human train to stay on the same collision course that it has been on for hundreds if not thousands of years.
The train is headed towards the Grandest of Canyons and any bridge which might help humanity to get across this canyon has ever been built.
None of us has ever put forth the foundation to lay down some new track to carry us all in a new direction that could lead us towards peace and eternal happiness.
No bridge exists to get humanity across this divide. There are a number of detailed road maps and plans (messages) that have been laid out for humanity to build upon, but to date there has been no significant construction that might save the train from total destruction.
Yet we continue to bicker amongst ourselves while the peril and grave danger of our utter self destruction looms directly on the horizon.
We often exchange pleasantries and high fives with the added perception of love towards those that we agree with the most, while somehow accepting our fate as it increasingly comes into our view while almost completely blocking the horizons of our tomorrows with doom and gloom.
So where will all this talk of change really take us?
Who knows, especially if we once again put our heads down and go right back to the daily struggle of how to live our lives while trying to extract the most emotionally and physically comfortable place to hide from the obvious results of our own collective creations here on the planet.
We play around in this space all of the time with all sorts of ideas and egotistical, theological, mystical, metaphysical crap about what it all might mean.
There is a whole section of this website devoted to supporting each other in the daily struggles of our emotional ups, downs and thoughts about our individual survival and the manner in which it may play out.
Here is the answer.
It will not play out at all unless we collectively make a clear decision to get down to business on a daily basis and become as Neale says all of the time; "The Change That We Wish To See" both in our individual and collective experiences of life each and every day of our life.
What makes a difference is what you do and also what you do not do. It is what shapes the outcome of all experience and ultimately the creation that we all see and experience.
So if you don't like what you see then you must strive to create a new individual and collective experience.
There is no other way.
You/we/me can not do this by pointing the finger of blame, shame or attempting to extract the guilt of another; there is no other, it's all an us.
Work to be the change you wish to see 100% of the time.
That's it.
The messages of Conversation with God are one of the finest road maps ever created by one of us to lead us all home.
I recommend that we study and use these messages every day and not just by integrating them into our thoughts or endlessly discussing their potential meaning; but by living in their message to the very best of our ever increasing abilities.
No one human being can ever do this alone but collectively we may be able to save the train before it reaches the canyon floor.
Take the message of change to heart up close and personal and it will flow into the collective consciousness becoming the new bridge across the divide know as separation from God.
Intellectually we all know that there is no separation from each other so now we must create the experience of that truth.
There is not a moment to waste.
Bruce
June 22, 2008 4:25 PM
By the way if you recieved the above message about being hacked by anyone simply do this:
Go to the Internet Tools Option of your browser and then click on delete your Cookies and History.
Then delete any favorites stored that direct you to a website with any such problems.
After that go directly to the web and Google search for any website you wish to view.
Save the new page as your future favorite.
This will walk around any such feeble hackers attempts to display their insecure stupidity.
Best to all
bruce
chuck
June 23, 2008 7:15 AM
The reason there are " converted believers" in every fox hole - is that they are focused on their mortality.
With all the hyper communication of cell phones, TV, CD's etc, the general population at large is distracted into themselves - into their own dream of reality. There is minimal education provided for the ability to - think for yourself. Consequently, - the adage of: When you always do, as you always did, you'll always get what you always got. The bottom line, no change can or will take place.
It may take a global catastrophy to refocus. You can talk to a horse until hell freezes over. It may well take a 2x4 to get its attention, then it may listen to the message.
Chuck
Pat
June 23, 2008 11:04 AM
BryontheRoad, I find your comment appalling about Muslims. The first change for you appears to be your ideas about Muslims. I personally don't know any Muslims like you have described, but we seem to have a President that proclaims to be a Christian, yet he has murdered millions of Iraqis, Afghanis, and American military in his illegal invasions. I sincerely hope that the people of this nation make new choices, but not for candidates that offer more violence and such disregard for human life. I look forward to Neale's teachings on What God Wants, because up to now, the human race has had it wrong. Peace Please.
Elinor Dandrea
June 27, 2008 1:53 PM
Is your idea of God, one of Peace? Did Christ bring Peace to this World? And if He did, why do we not have Peace in our own homes, our own Nation in the whole World?
If the Prince of Peace has yet to be understood why would anyone believe that Peace in this world come with just the mear change in a political party?
Peace was never to be seen as passivity. If that were true, the story of the Good Samaritian would have very little meaninh. He did not turn the other cheek. He did not turn a deaf ear or a blind eye to the pain enflicted by another!
In a world where so my evil exists, to place blame on those who wish to bring others out of the darkness of slavery, dictatorship, hunger, injustice and who have had their best lay their lives on the line, for those across the seas, for no self gain, other than to do the right thing for another? I think its time to re-evaluate what you think an unselfish act means? To say that our God, wants us to look the other way, when evil men do evil to one another, and then see our soldiers as part of those evil men..then I do know that your idea of Christ , Love in action with Good Will as its intent,...has yet to be lived in your heart!
Deb
June 27, 2008 10:18 PM
Elinor, please consider how Jesus reacted when Peter raised his sword when the high priests came and arrested Him. The greatest gift God has given us is free will. Jesus allowed Himself to be crucified because He would not interfere with the free will of man.
God does not punish. God does not judge. God is perfect Love.
When I read the words of someone I disagree with, sometimes it is hard to remain calm and kind. But that is what Jesus would do; it is what God does.
Elinor dear, it is not the job of any of us to tell another what is in their heart. God bless you.
Elinor Dandrea
June 30, 2008 8:00 AM
I never said God punishes..my understanding that the Good in us All is my God!
It is the turning of words where the deception lies!
Christ did not preach Peace He delivers it!
What He did preach was right relationships! That is the course for all who believe in Him..
My reponse was to those who use their political opinions as the source of their God!
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Good Morning Neale,
The statement that "the kingdom of God is within us" came to me just now. This saying cannot be understood in the analytical mind; which uses polarity thinking to find solutions to its perceived problems.
Right/wrong thinking is the EGO's way of reasoning out finite concepts to come up with even more finite solutions. The only way to overcome the governments of men is to transcend them, not to try to improve them.
The inner man of the heart has no desire to fix, improve or correct the outer world. It knows there is no reality in it because the physical world exists in space and time which are finite. However in setting the inner "infinite" kingdom in order the outer realms will be transcended.
At the point of awakening to our spiritual identity, the inner man is able to transcend the outer realms and not assign them any reality or power. This perfect view of self gives us the realization that all that God has is ours. We are one with the source of all wisdom, life and love.
I and my Father are one and everything contrary to that view, is an illusion created in the ego mind. I have been given dominion over all power of the enemy. There is no outward enemy in reality; the only enemy you and I have is our imperfect view of self or EGO.
It is in the correct view of self "as perfect and one", that we transcend this world and its governments which were created through fear and a wrong "finite" identity. What is happening is we are awakening to our perfection, and in this identity we are healing how we view the outer world. No man can take our peace from us when we know who we are.
Namaste, Neale.
Hi Neale,
I believe God wants/expects something different from each of us because we are uniquely made. God knows we are doing our best.
If each of us chose to be our brother's keeper, secure in the knowledge that each of us is perfectly loved by God, that there is nothing we could do to endanger that love, the 'sibling rivalry' that generates greed, jealousy, and low self-esteem would gradually dissipate. Eventually, there would be world peace.
I agree with Carrie, "No man can take our peace from us when we know who we are."
The divine beauty of God has been misunderstood for too long.
Wishing you continued good health.
Deb Reilly
For many not versed in metaphysics God has a very different meaning and feel that most likely will only gradually change and evolve over time, not overnight as many new agers think.
God has it all and great self esteem to boot. So God needs nothing from us.
Yet, we have our own desires that we create for better or worse depending on our awareness ability and demonstration of the ability.
The key is not what God wants but what we want/desire. That may be based in part or in whole on how we view God or life.
If we see that God needs or wants nothing from us, we are free to do as we please in as much as our awareness can demonstrate that. Which usually, is in many varying stages and degrees.
These degrees, change as we evolve our awareness individual and collective.
The post here seems mostly hype of things to come. I might suggest get right to the point and move into that space if you desire to quicken the awareness.
Of course you may be speaking to the larger public not aquainted in CwG or metaphysical material.
God needs nothing. Yet we do, or, at least we desire to at this stage of the game, How well and how fast we do that is based on our current evolving awareness.
Human History has revealed:
A constant struggle on the planet based on the existence of barbaric, brutal and heinous [for lack of better terms] people.
For whatever reason, there's never a shortage of these people.
We know doing nothing with these people always makes them more brazin - and we know that fighting back works - but always ends up causing collateral damage.
We don't want to fight back - because we know that invariably a whole bunch of innocent people will be killed in the process.
That's the whole story of Darfur, Iraq and several other places on the planet right now.
In Iraq - known mass graves equal more than 400,000 - and the villagers tell us that we have only found less than half of the grave sites.
We also know that when the various Muslim factions in Iraq battle each other - that they go right to killing women and children and hide in hospitals and schools. So we fight carefully - or not all.
Same with the Muslim leaders in The Sudan. They hide is areas with women and children - so we would have to kill a whole bunch of children in order to root out the Barbarism is the Sudan.
Changing the mindset of Muslims isn't am option.
No matter how many times I read the CWG trilogy - I have never come to he conclusion that Ismalic radicals - who wake up in the morning with thinking of ways to kill Jews and Infidels - and who pound that message into their children's head like we do the ABC's - have the rationale to change their minds.
Yet, we must strive to change - hence Neale's material is worthwhile.
We don't have to agree - but I think we owe to ourselves to find any value and run with it.
But know this:
No matter if Obama or McCain wins - the USA has already made it clear that we will not be another Israel. [by that, I mean - we have had zero Islamic terrorist attacks on US soil since 9-11 - whereas, Israel has been having them for decades - on average about once a week].
And no matter how much anyone hates Bush on this Earth - find one person who thought on September 12th, 2001 - that Al Queda would be virtually wiped out - except for pockets in Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Syria - and that we would have had no further Muslim attacks.
Don't misunderstand my comments - I am not saying Bush has been brilliant or that he hasn't made a ton of mistakes.
All I'm saying that is If Barack Obama is our president - and Muslim's attack again .... Obama will unleash the full fury of the US Military upon those terrorists. [and yes, that means any women and children they are hiding by] Barack will have no choice but do so. The United States for all our faults and poor decisions - will end up having to make a decision that will affect the whole planet.
1- We allow Muslim radicals to exist.
2- We hunt down every last one of them until they surrender or are dead.
There will be no in-between - even if Barack Obama is the President - he will realize that.
Neale, I tried to log onto the Messenger's circle and this is what I get: Hacked By aLpTurkTegin Turkish Hacker!!! I hope this isn't a setback. Just wanted to let you know.
When the American Presidential election is over and all of the dust from its created controversies has settled then what will we do?
What with all of the excitement generated over the potential to elect either the first woman or the first black person to what is arguably the most powerful position among humans that we as humanity have ever established; will we once again forget the purpose of the exercise?
We humans are all riding on the same train and going in the same direction together; whether we agree on the notion or not.
Some of us enjoy the view from the left side others prefer the view from the right but none the less our collective actions or inactions continue to cause this human train to stay on the same collision course that it has been on for hundreds if not thousands of years.
The train is headed towards the Grandest of Canyons and any bridge which might help humanity to get across this canyon has ever been built.
None of us has ever put forth the foundation to lay down some new track to carry us all in a new direction that could lead us towards peace and eternal happiness.
No bridge exists to get humanity across this divide. There are a number of detailed road maps and plans (messages) that have been laid out for humanity to build upon, but to date there has been no significant construction that might save the train from total destruction.
Yet we continue to bicker amongst ourselves while the peril and grave danger of our utter self destruction looms directly on the horizon.
We often exchange pleasantries and high fives with the added perception of love towards those that we agree with the most, while somehow accepting our fate as it increasingly comes into our view while almost completely blocking the horizons of our tomorrows with doom and gloom.
So where will all this talk of change really take us?
Who knows, especially if we once again put our heads down and go right back to the daily struggle of how to live our lives while trying to extract the most emotionally and physically comfortable place to hide from the obvious results of our own collective creations here on the planet.
We play around in this space all of the time with all sorts of ideas and egotistical, theological, mystical, metaphysical crap about what it all might mean.
There is a whole section of this website devoted to supporting each other in the daily struggles of our emotional ups, downs and thoughts about our individual survival and the manner in which it may play out.
Here is the answer.
It will not play out at all unless we collectively make a clear decision to get down to business on a daily basis and become as Neale says all of the time; "The Change That We Wish To See" both in our individual and collective experiences of life each and every day of our life.
What makes a difference is what you do and also what you do not do. It is what shapes the outcome of all experience and ultimately the creation that we all see and experience.
So if you don't like what you see then you must strive to create a new individual and collective experience.
There is no other way.
You/we/me can not do this by pointing the finger of blame, shame or attempting to extract the guilt of another; there is no other, it's all an us.
Work to be the change you wish to see 100% of the time.
That's it.
The messages of Conversation with God are one of the finest road maps ever created by one of us to lead us all home.
I recommend that we study and use these messages every day and not just by integrating them into our thoughts or endlessly discussing their potential meaning; but by living in their message to the very best of our ever increasing abilities.
No one human being can ever do this alone but collectively we may be able to save the train before it reaches the canyon floor.
Take the message of change to heart up close and personal and it will flow into the collective consciousness becoming the new bridge across the divide know as separation from God.
Intellectually we all know that there is no separation from each other so now we must create the experience of that truth.
There is not a moment to waste.
By the way if you recieved the above message about being hacked by anyone simply do this:
Go to the Internet Tools Option of your browser and then click on delete your Cookies and History.
Then delete any favorites stored that direct you to a website with any such problems.
After that go directly to the web and Google search for any website you wish to view.
Save the new page as your future favorite.
This will walk around any such feeble hackers attempts to display their insecure stupidity.
Best to all
bruce
The reason there are " converted believers" in every fox hole - is that they are focused on their mortality.
With all the hyper communication of cell phones, TV, CD's etc, the general population at large is distracted into themselves - into their own dream of reality. There is minimal education provided for the ability to - think for yourself. Consequently, - the adage of: When you always do, as you always did, you'll always get what you always got. The bottom line, no change can or will take place.
It may take a global catastrophy to refocus. You can talk to a horse until hell freezes over. It may well take a 2x4 to get its attention, then it may listen to the message.
Chuck
BryontheRoad, I find your comment appalling about Muslims. The first change for you appears to be your ideas about Muslims. I personally don't know any Muslims like you have described, but we seem to have a President that proclaims to be a Christian, yet he has murdered millions of Iraqis, Afghanis, and American military in his illegal invasions. I sincerely hope that the people of this nation make new choices, but not for candidates that offer more violence and such disregard for human life. I look forward to Neale's teachings on What God Wants, because up to now, the human race has had it wrong. Peace Please.
Is your idea of God, one of Peace? Did Christ bring Peace to this World? And if He did, why do we not have Peace in our own homes, our own Nation in the whole World?
If the Prince of Peace has yet to be understood why would anyone believe that Peace in this world come with just the mear change in a political party?
Peace was never to be seen as passivity. If that were true, the story of the Good Samaritian would have very little meaninh. He did not turn the other cheek. He did not turn a deaf ear or a blind eye to the pain enflicted by another!
In a world where so my evil exists, to place blame on those who wish to bring others out of the darkness of slavery, dictatorship, hunger, injustice and who have had their best lay their lives on the line, for those across the seas, for no self gain, other than to do the right thing for another? I think its time to re-evaluate what you think an unselfish act means? To say that our God, wants us to look the other way, when evil men do evil to one another, and then see our soldiers as part of those evil men..then I do know that your idea of Christ , Love in action with Good Will as its intent,...has yet to be lived in your heart!
Elinor, please consider how Jesus reacted when Peter raised his sword when the high priests came and arrested Him. The greatest gift God has given us is free will. Jesus allowed Himself to be crucified because He would not interfere with the free will of man.
God does not punish. God does not judge. God is perfect Love.
When I read the words of someone I disagree with, sometimes it is hard to remain calm and kind. But that is what Jesus would do; it is what God does.
Elinor dear, it is not the job of any of us to tell another what is in their heart. God bless you.
I never said God punishes..my understanding that the Good in us All is my God!
It is the turning of words where the deception lies!
Christ did not preach Peace He delivers it!
What He did preach was right relationships! That is the course for all who believe in Him..
My reponse was to those who use their political opinions as the source of their God!
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