Beginning this Sunday, and for the next 20 weeks, we're going to take quite an excursion in this blogspace. Get ready for quite a ride. We're going to be talking about things that you haven't talked about since Sunday School....
I guess if one knows this one knows everything else.
Love and Light.
Deb Reilly
August 1, 2008 7:48 AM
This will be interesting.
Deb Reilly
August 1, 2008 8:10 AM
"On this day of your life, dear friend, I believe God wants you to know....that any frustration you have is simply the result of
wrong thinking. If you were thinking rightly you could not possibly
imagine that anything was going 'wrong.' You would know that nothing in the Universe is working against you. By definition, given Who You Are, this is impossible."
Yesterday I had a conversation with a woman who is being sued by the government for not disclosing a technicality from her youth and as a result must reimburse Uncle Sam for a year of disability pay, (she still suffers terrible back pain from her work as a nurse), is trying to help her grand-daughter overcome P.T.S.D. by taking her to therapy once a week, who's given her adult son, daughter-in-law and their two young children space in her modest home, who's first born son was being released from a mental health facility with no place to go and would be back on the street, who's husband's used car lot hasn't made any money in ages due to the economy, and has $300 in cash to go towards $900 in rent.
Neale, if this woman decides to think 'correctly', will she be free of the frustration her life has presented her with?
Or will she grow and change due to the challenges her life has brought her?
Your quote of the day seems to say that if one was in touch with themselves spiritually, there would be smooth sailing ahead. (Which would have a lot in common with the Christian "Name it and claim it" mentality.
Prasad
August 1, 2008 11:18 AM
Deb,
The mind is the reason for all things. If our 'being' changes, our thinking, and our doing will change in time, and so the outcome 'has' to change. There is no other go. But it will take 'time'. That is how the physical world has been constructed. Time and space are basic notions of the mind that we accept to live in this physical reality.
Frustration, as happiness, is a choice. This seems hard to accept, but its a fact. Neale's oft quoted example of Ramdass, Ramana Maharshi ( The Great Sage from India ) and many others are/were living examples of people who despite their physical pain still shone with the Light of the Blissful Self within.
The truth is that all things are drawn to us by ourselves, and when this fact is accepted as a blessing and not a curse, then frustration drops off. Then the silent yet dynamic force within can be tapped to clear off the physical remnants of the stuff which we thought was responsible for causing the frustration.
But this is not 'easy', and its not a simple 'tweak' in the mind that results in this. That would be a farce, and one would soon fall back into deeper depression. One needs to work systematically at various levels to set things consciously.
Love and Light.
Brandi
August 1, 2008 11:41 AM
This is along the lines of what I have been dealing with lately. I love the idea about "accidently" leaving one of the books laying around, but what about in conversation? My view of almost everything has changed since reading these books, thankfully because I have an open mind and welcomed the change. But because I live in the Bible Belt there are a lot of closed-minded people or "Diehard Christians" here. I feel like I have insight that may help others, but how do I talk to them without starting an "I'm right and you're wrong" argument.
I have learned from reading these books whatever someone chooses to believe is their reality--it's neither right nor wrong--in our mind it is truth. The truths that are in the CWG books are my reality so how do I "impose" my belief/truth on someone else and what "right" do I have?
Additionally, the truths in these books are so unbelieveably different from anything most of us have ever imagined that to even utter one of the CWG truths to someone else would compel them to have to change every aspect of their religion/belief system; like a domino effect. For instance death is something everyone has to deal with and to say "oh it's ok, although it was horrible car accident, he/she chose to die--it was his/her will". The response would be "What the f..." This isn't something you can just casually mention in conversation; it's more like a "BOOM-there it is" kind of thing. Ya know? How do I comfort and assure people with these truths? Any suggestions?
Prasad
August 1, 2008 11:54 AM
Dear Brandi
There are a thousand such questions, my friend. When someone gives you the answer to those thousand, you try to 'do' them and maybe successful or unsuccessful. Its not about doing, you know. You don't 'do' anything. Stop trying, stop doing. Just be. Be the truth. Breathe the truth. Truth Is. It doesn't need anyone to be itself. It is the same way with ourselves, We are Truth, and realizing this is Self-Realization.
When you are so, you don't engage in a conversation with people at one level, my friend. You engage in 'several' levels, most of which are unknown to those with whom you engage. A master who has realized himself is like the Sun.
None can hide their splendour from the Sun, the Sun sees it all. The Sun Is, and by its very Is-ness all things come to the Light. In the same way, by His/Her very being, a Master sets things right, on all levels, even though those who receive are unaware of the process. There is no doing, there is just Being, and there is just Love.
Resolve the inner confusions and the outer confusions will resolve themselves.
Love and Light.
Mounir
August 1, 2008 12:05 PM
********************************************
Please concentrate on humanistic functions
********************************************
As long as the bottom line is humanistic then we are on the right track.
Once the bottom line is for investigating the purpose and what happens after life only (Without linking that to what benefit human kind here and now), then we will loose the top purpose of our creation and we end up another "believer type" who are arrogants and egoistic..
Peace
Mounir
amilius
August 1, 2008 12:55 PM
Neale and Gang of One,
How do you suppose One designed the Game of Life for One's self as many so that we might realize the experiences exactly as we have? Do you imagine there are no clues in the design and the missed understanding of this Graciously Organized Design? What if the only thing individual about any One of us is our individuated unawareness of being God? Would any One's circumstances in life be any different than it has been if this were so? What three illusions would support this 'unawareness"? Answer: Individuation, Separation, and Forgetting the Fullness of Being. Would a being of Full Awareness see the roller coaster aspect of such a choice and then make it? Of course. Look around. See the Graciously Organized Design of One Absolute Awareness everywhere. The evidence of it is all about One. Namaste
amilius
August 1, 2008 1:00 PM
Here's another question/answer to contemplate that I enjoy:
In what context might the seemingly mutually exclusive concepts of Predestination and Free Will co-exist?
Answer:
The One thing Predestined by the Universe is Absolute Joy. We all have the Free Will to avoid it.
The understanding of this plays out all about One.
Namaste.
Marko
August 1, 2008 3:06 PM
All I can say about your post Neale is Yippeeeeee!!!
As a long time member of the Messenger Circle group I can attest that it is also very inexpensive to join.
It's very worth it for any CwG lover. A place to, join in, learn, remember, discover, observe, and increase your energy and awareness of the CwG material, where people join in with others in very stimulating dialogs and posts.
We have people of all levels and degrees of awareness all working, playing together as best we can to elevate and live and be the change we desire to see and experience in ourselves and therefore others as well.
So what are you waiting for?
Tax Joven
August 1, 2008 6:52 PM
Prasad: Who or what are you? "I guess if one knows this one knows everything else.
x-x-x-x-x-x-x
You inspire, yet said nothing new - as Neale, Maharshi, Ramdass, Blaise, etc. There's nothing we can say that has never been said before. We all have it in ourselves. The Book is in us. We have all the questions, and the answers as well. Know thyself. Who are you? Who am I? We are.
Jesus summed it all up. Love God. Love others as yourself. It appears that there are two commandments. Actually there's only one. Love yourself. Love God for your sake, not God's. Anything else is hypocrisy, as altruism is. God doesn't need love, nor dispenses it. He is. If we feel guilty of loving ourselves, it is because we never knew who we really are, or we have changed ourselves. As we did with God.
Mourning or sorrow comes from forgetting. Relief comes from remembering or re-membering, i.e., being with God once more in this life. God is Joy. We are. So too are our departed ones. They're in heaven, not in hell. We who are left behind have a choice. Remain in hell, or get out of it. No matter. Our loved ones will be smiling, with us or at us.
Amelius, I think Joy is not predestined. It is. I agree with you on free will. We are free to avoid it. We punish ourselves if we chose to. Others are also free to keep it away from us. If we follow them, we let them punish us. Happiness is not Doing. It is Being. It's a choice. Try it. It's free, though some people insist that fees are due. We don't need a club. We are. Unless we aren't.
Mary
August 1, 2008 10:20 PM
FINALLY! A Sunday school class I'll actually look forward to attending! I always hated Sunday school as a child. Too much hellfire and eternal damnation, God will be angry if you don't do A, B, and C.
I'm 42 years old and I'll be looking forward to this. Only goes to show, you are never too old to go to Sunday School! Thanks Neal!
Peace.Love.
August 2, 2008 12:34 AM
Yay! I'm excited. :)
Cherry Wong
August 3, 2008 6:50 AM
Dear Mr. Walsch,
I'm a Chinese who live in Hong Kong, I just saw the film "Conversations with God". I think there is something I can't catch. May be my English is not very well, so I don't really understand. But I'll try my best. Also, I just started to read your book "Conversations with God", too. But I think I should take a long time, it's because I bought an English Version.
Anyway, thanks your film and books. I'll try my best to think about the answer of "What would "Love" do, now?".
christina
August 3, 2008 7:56 PM
wonderful , with ,love and peace , christina , scotland
Regan
August 3, 2008 8:28 PM
Neale,
I am not quite understanding how it is that a person would create being abused, or raped, etc....and, in the case that they did, are they actually supposed to be expected to just rise above it somehow because they need to take responsiblity for ultimately creating these things in their life??? If we are supposed to speak our truth, we must be able to be validated within the context of our individual experiences...right?
And also, how can someone be expected to create positivity, so easily, when we all have these human brains, and human emotions, that can render us immobile at times???
Marilyn
August 4, 2008 9:41 PM
Regan,
One can create positivity through awareness. Become aware of the 'human brain and human emotions' as you say. Notice them. Become aware that their focus is on separation. Do this all day long. We are one; Our true essence, each and all of us, is pure love and pure light -- anything other than that is ego/pain that knows nothing but the illusion of separation. It can take time to break the habit of giving in to that illusion. Don't succumb to frustration. Thank the difficulties in life; think of them as sparring partners, helping you to advance your skill. :)
Anonymous
August 6, 2008 6:44 AM
Regan, Taking responsibility for your life does not mean you have to condone the bad behavior of others. It is very hard to understand but all things that happen happened for a reason. Maybe the lesson is to learn forgiveness. By holding onto bad things that happen in live we give our power away to the negative. Try to focus on what you can learn rather then the event itself. No one here needs to be validated, the ego is what seeks validation.
Blessings,
Earth Angel
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" 7. Who or what are you? "
I guess if one knows this one knows everything else.
Love and Light.
This will be interesting.
"On this day of your life, dear friend, I believe God wants you to know....that any frustration you have is simply the result of
wrong thinking. If you were thinking rightly you could not possibly
imagine that anything was going 'wrong.' You would know that nothing in the Universe is working against you. By definition, given Who You Are, this is impossible."
Yesterday I had a conversation with a woman who is being sued by the government for not disclosing a technicality from her youth and as a result must reimburse Uncle Sam for a year of disability pay, (she still suffers terrible back pain from her work as a nurse), is trying to help her grand-daughter overcome P.T.S.D. by taking her to therapy once a week, who's given her adult son, daughter-in-law and their two young children space in her modest home, who's first born son was being released from a mental health facility with no place to go and would be back on the street, who's husband's used car lot hasn't made any money in ages due to the economy, and has $300 in cash to go towards $900 in rent.
Neale, if this woman decides to think 'correctly', will she be free of the frustration her life has presented her with?
Or will she grow and change due to the challenges her life has brought her?
Your quote of the day seems to say that if one was in touch with themselves spiritually, there would be smooth sailing ahead. (Which would have a lot in common with the Christian "Name it and claim it" mentality.
Deb,
The mind is the reason for all things. If our 'being' changes, our thinking, and our doing will change in time, and so the outcome 'has' to change. There is no other go. But it will take 'time'. That is how the physical world has been constructed. Time and space are basic notions of the mind that we accept to live in this physical reality.
Frustration, as happiness, is a choice. This seems hard to accept, but its a fact. Neale's oft quoted example of Ramdass, Ramana Maharshi ( The Great Sage from India ) and many others are/were living examples of people who despite their physical pain still shone with the Light of the Blissful Self within.
The truth is that all things are drawn to us by ourselves, and when this fact is accepted as a blessing and not a curse, then frustration drops off. Then the silent yet dynamic force within can be tapped to clear off the physical remnants of the stuff which we thought was responsible for causing the frustration.
But this is not 'easy', and its not a simple 'tweak' in the mind that results in this. That would be a farce, and one would soon fall back into deeper depression. One needs to work systematically at various levels to set things consciously.
Love and Light.
This is along the lines of what I have been dealing with lately. I love the idea about "accidently" leaving one of the books laying around, but what about in conversation? My view of almost everything has changed since reading these books, thankfully because I have an open mind and welcomed the change. But because I live in the Bible Belt there are a lot of closed-minded people or "Diehard Christians" here. I feel like I have insight that may help others, but how do I talk to them without starting an "I'm right and you're wrong" argument.
I have learned from reading these books whatever someone chooses to believe is their reality--it's neither right nor wrong--in our mind it is truth. The truths that are in the CWG books are my reality so how do I "impose" my belief/truth on someone else and what "right" do I have?
Additionally, the truths in these books are so unbelieveably different from anything most of us have ever imagined that to even utter one of the CWG truths to someone else would compel them to have to change every aspect of their religion/belief system; like a domino effect. For instance death is something everyone has to deal with and to say "oh it's ok, although it was horrible car accident, he/she chose to die--it was his/her will". The response would be "What the f..." This isn't something you can just casually mention in conversation; it's more like a "BOOM-there it is" kind of thing. Ya know? How do I comfort and assure people with these truths? Any suggestions?
Dear Brandi
There are a thousand such questions, my friend. When someone gives you the answer to those thousand, you try to 'do' them and maybe successful or unsuccessful. Its not about doing, you know. You don't 'do' anything. Stop trying, stop doing. Just be. Be the truth. Breathe the truth. Truth Is. It doesn't need anyone to be itself. It is the same way with ourselves, We are Truth, and realizing this is Self-Realization.
When you are so, you don't engage in a conversation with people at one level, my friend. You engage in 'several' levels, most of which are unknown to those with whom you engage. A master who has realized himself is like the Sun.
None can hide their splendour from the Sun, the Sun sees it all. The Sun Is, and by its very Is-ness all things come to the Light. In the same way, by His/Her very being, a Master sets things right, on all levels, even though those who receive are unaware of the process. There is no doing, there is just Being, and there is just Love.
Resolve the inner confusions and the outer confusions will resolve themselves.
Love and Light.
********************************************
Please concentrate on humanistic functions
********************************************
As long as the bottom line is humanistic then we are on the right track.
Once the bottom line is for investigating the purpose and what happens after life only (Without linking that to what benefit human kind here and now), then we will loose the top purpose of our creation and we end up another "believer type" who are arrogants and egoistic..
Peace
Mounir
Neale and Gang of One,
How do you suppose One designed the Game of Life for One's self as many so that we might realize the experiences exactly as we have? Do you imagine there are no clues in the design and the missed understanding of this Graciously Organized Design? What if the only thing individual about any One of us is our individuated unawareness of being God? Would any One's circumstances in life be any different than it has been if this were so? What three illusions would support this 'unawareness"? Answer: Individuation, Separation, and Forgetting the Fullness of Being. Would a being of Full Awareness see the roller coaster aspect of such a choice and then make it? Of course. Look around. See the Graciously Organized Design of One Absolute Awareness everywhere. The evidence of it is all about One. Namaste
Here's another question/answer to contemplate that I enjoy:
In what context might the seemingly mutually exclusive concepts of Predestination and Free Will co-exist?
Answer:
The One thing Predestined by the Universe is Absolute Joy. We all have the Free Will to avoid it.
The understanding of this plays out all about One.
Namaste.
All I can say about your post Neale is Yippeeeeee!!!
As a long time member of the Messenger Circle group I can attest that it is also very inexpensive to join.
It's very worth it for any CwG lover. A place to, join in, learn, remember, discover, observe, and increase your energy and awareness of the CwG material, where people join in with others in very stimulating dialogs and posts.
We have people of all levels and degrees of awareness all working, playing together as best we can to elevate and live and be the change we desire to see and experience in ourselves and therefore others as well.
So what are you waiting for?
Prasad: Who or what are you? "I guess if one knows this one knows everything else.
x-x-x-x-x-x-x
You inspire, yet said nothing new - as Neale, Maharshi, Ramdass, Blaise, etc. There's nothing we can say that has never been said before. We all have it in ourselves. The Book is in us. We have all the questions, and the answers as well. Know thyself. Who are you? Who am I? We are.
Jesus summed it all up. Love God. Love others as yourself. It appears that there are two commandments. Actually there's only one. Love yourself. Love God for your sake, not God's. Anything else is hypocrisy, as altruism is. God doesn't need love, nor dispenses it. He is. If we feel guilty of loving ourselves, it is because we never knew who we really are, or we have changed ourselves. As we did with God.
Mourning or sorrow comes from forgetting. Relief comes from remembering or re-membering, i.e., being with God once more in this life. God is Joy. We are. So too are our departed ones. They're in heaven, not in hell. We who are left behind have a choice. Remain in hell, or get out of it. No matter. Our loved ones will be smiling, with us or at us.
Amelius, I think Joy is not predestined. It is. I agree with you on free will. We are free to avoid it. We punish ourselves if we chose to. Others are also free to keep it away from us. If we follow them, we let them punish us. Happiness is not Doing. It is Being. It's a choice. Try it. It's free, though some people insist that fees are due. We don't need a club. We are. Unless we aren't.
FINALLY! A Sunday school class I'll actually look forward to attending! I always hated Sunday school as a child. Too much hellfire and eternal damnation, God will be angry if you don't do A, B, and C.
I'm 42 years old and I'll be looking forward to this. Only goes to show, you are never too old to go to Sunday School! Thanks Neal!
Yay! I'm excited. :)
Dear Mr. Walsch,
I'm a Chinese who live in Hong Kong, I just saw the film "Conversations with God". I think there is something I can't catch. May be my English is not very well, so I don't really understand. But I'll try my best. Also, I just started to read your book "Conversations with God", too. But I think I should take a long time, it's because I bought an English Version.
Anyway, thanks your film and books. I'll try my best to think about the answer of "What would "Love" do, now?".
wonderful , with ,love and peace , christina , scotland
Neale,
I am not quite understanding how it is that a person would create being abused, or raped, etc....and, in the case that they did, are they actually supposed to be expected to just rise above it somehow because they need to take responsiblity for ultimately creating these things in their life??? If we are supposed to speak our truth, we must be able to be validated within the context of our individual experiences...right?
And also, how can someone be expected to create positivity, so easily, when we all have these human brains, and human emotions, that can render us immobile at times???
Regan,
One can create positivity through awareness. Become aware of the 'human brain and human emotions' as you say. Notice them. Become aware that their focus is on separation. Do this all day long. We are one; Our true essence, each and all of us, is pure love and pure light -- anything other than that is ego/pain that knows nothing but the illusion of separation. It can take time to break the habit of giving in to that illusion. Don't succumb to frustration. Thank the difficulties in life; think of them as sparring partners, helping you to advance your skill. :)
Regan, Taking responsibility for your life does not mean you have to condone the bad behavior of others. It is very hard to understand but all things that happen happened for a reason. Maybe the lesson is to learn forgiveness. By holding onto bad things that happen in live we give our power away to the negative. Try to focus on what you can learn rather then the event itself. No one here needs to be validated, the ego is what seeks validation.
Blessings,
Earth Angel
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