Barbara Nicolosi can't figure out why many Christians are either enthusiastic for "The Da Vinci Code," or at least fail to see it as a threat. Excerpt:We need to be very clear here: The Da Vinci Code is much, much...
Just to see what all the fuss is about, I am about 140 pages into the Da Vinci Code and I don't see how this got to be such a big book. It is written like a third-rate John Grisham novel. I'm having a hard time picking up the book to read, but feel I have to plow through it to see what everyone's talking about.>
dovid
May 9, 2006 8:44 PM
Didn't all the Protestants just love Catholic Mel Gibson's "Passion"?>
armchair pessimist
May 9, 2006 8:57 PM
In happier times, I would snort at popery with the best; it was more from traditional Anglophilia than religious belief. But now I look on DVC and its like with great malice. Sort of, "Hands off the Whore of Babylon!, damn you!" We live in funny times.>
Derek
May 9, 2006 9:11 PM
The Catholic Church may be the target du jour with the DVC but it's ultimate target - the divinity of Christ and the inspiration of Scriptures - should give all people of Christian faith cause for concern as that is truly what our faith stands on. We can debate the other aspects of our theological differences, but without these two truths our faith is meaningless.
Surely, we can see past the notion that Protestants are giggling with glee about this latest attack on the Catholic Church. This Protestant has never taken attacks on the Catholic Church lightly and does not revel in this latest effort to discredit Christianity.>
tovart
May 9, 2006 11:00 PM
Dovid, that alliance immediately after the election was short lived, just like the lull in racism. Old habits die hard.>
Reddopto
May 9, 2006 11:22 PM
This protestant supports the RCC in the attacks made against it in this movie. In fact, I would join a local protest if one formed. Sixty Minutes exposed the plot basis for the book as a hoax. Maybe that will help reduce ticket sales.>
Adam
May 9, 2006 11:25 PM
I don't see it as a threat any more than I see other pieces of bad fiction as a threat. It's a fast-moving adventure story with a transparently silly historico-religious concept at its heart. If that's sufficiently convincing to people, then the fault isn't in the book. At most, it highlights how ready people are to believe pretty much anything put in front of them--but I'm inclined to doubt that readers take the book all that seriously.
If I want to get worked up over something, it'll be the volumes of Biblical pseudo-scholarship that masquerade as scholarly nonfiction. At least the press refers to Dan Brown as "novelist"; they're still calling Elaine Pagels "scholar" and "expert".>
tovart
May 10, 2006 12:21 AM
Geez, I don't see people getting worked up about science "fiction," or the theories about "chariots of the gods" and other extraterrestrial alien-human interaction -- (which carry equally fictional and/or mythical content as Mr. Brown s book.) The implications contained in those pieces of literature by standards posted here would be just as blasphemous and carry the same implications as Mr. Brown's "plot.">
Basileus
May 10, 2006 3:54 AM
Adam said: "I don't see it as a threat any more than I see other pieces of bad fiction as a threat. It's a fast-moving adventure story with a transparently silly historico-religious concept at its heart. If that's sufficiently convincing to people, then the fault isn't in the book. At most, it highlights how ready people are to believe pretty much anything put in front of them--but I'm inclined to doubt that readers take the book all that seriously."
I'm with Adam on this one. I don't think the DVC is a threat to Christianity. To those that are strong in their faith, the contents of the book/movie will have no impact. Those that start to buy into its notions were probably weak in their faith to begin with.
I believe the Roman Catholic Church is the target, per usual, because it is both one of the oldest and certainly the largest denomination on earth...and it is also especially the dominant faith in the western world where much of this Da Vinci nonsense took place. So I don't think it is so much an anti-Catholic conspiracy so much as that is the only target to attack given the setting of the book. Would she recommend they go after Pentecostalists instead? (even though they didn't appear on the 'scene' til around 1900).
BTW, I am not sure why Barbara Nicolosi takes such issue with the prepend name of Roman, as that is the official name of that church.
I liken the DVC to all the sundry titles I see in the "Politics" section at bookstores like Borders or Barnes and Noble. Anybody can publish a book these days and fill it with whatever rubbish they want.
Too much big deal is being made of all this and it will die just like the Last Temptation of Christ et al. did.>
Christine
May 10, 2006 9:15 PM
"BTW, I am not sure why Barbara Nicolosi takes such issue with the prepend name of Roman, as that is the official name of that church."
Actually -- and technically -- no. "Roman" Catholic came into use as a perjorative after the Reformation. Actually the Catholic Church is made up of about 22 rites of which the Roman (Latin) is only one. There are Eastern as well as Western Rites in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
But it's understandable that the name gets confused in the media, et al.>
Basileus
May 10, 2006 10:52 PM
Christine,
Very well and good point. It is a name of convenience and therefore easy to confuse...but since the title "Roman Catholic Church" is appended to the monument signs in front of nearly every one of those churches, you can see where people attain this understanding and where it is still correct in a way, since that is what they call themselves.>
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Just to see what all the fuss is about, I am about 140 pages into the Da Vinci Code and I don't see how this got to be such a big book. It is written like a third-rate John Grisham novel. I'm having a hard time picking up the book to read, but feel I have to plow through it to see what everyone's talking about.>
Didn't all the Protestants just love Catholic Mel Gibson's "Passion"?>
In happier times, I would snort at popery with the best; it was more from traditional Anglophilia than religious belief. But now I look on DVC and its like with great malice. Sort of, "Hands off the Whore of Babylon!, damn you!" We live in funny times.>
The Catholic Church may be the target du jour with the DVC but it's ultimate target - the divinity of Christ and the inspiration of Scriptures - should give all people of Christian faith cause for concern as that is truly what our faith stands on. We can debate the other aspects of our theological differences, but without these two truths our faith is meaningless.
Surely, we can see past the notion that Protestants are giggling with glee about this latest attack on the Catholic Church. This Protestant has never taken attacks on the Catholic Church lightly and does not revel in this latest effort to discredit Christianity.>
Dovid, that alliance immediately after the election was short lived, just like the lull in racism. Old habits die hard.>
This protestant supports the RCC in the attacks made against it in this movie. In fact, I would join a local protest if one formed. Sixty Minutes exposed the plot basis for the book as a hoax. Maybe that will help reduce ticket sales.>
I don't see it as a threat any more than I see other pieces of bad fiction as a threat. It's a fast-moving adventure story with a transparently silly historico-religious concept at its heart. If that's sufficiently convincing to people, then the fault isn't in the book. At most, it highlights how ready people are to believe pretty much anything put in front of them--but I'm inclined to doubt that readers take the book all that seriously.
If I want to get worked up over something, it'll be the volumes of Biblical pseudo-scholarship that masquerade as scholarly nonfiction. At least the press refers to Dan Brown as "novelist"; they're still calling Elaine Pagels "scholar" and "expert".>
Geez, I don't see people getting worked up about science "fiction," or the theories about "chariots of the gods" and other extraterrestrial alien-human interaction -- (which carry equally fictional and/or mythical content as Mr. Brown s book.) The implications contained in those pieces of literature by standards posted here would be just as blasphemous and carry the same implications as Mr. Brown's "plot.">
Adam said: "I don't see it as a threat any more than I see other pieces of bad fiction as a threat. It's a fast-moving adventure story with a transparently silly historico-religious concept at its heart. If that's sufficiently convincing to people, then the fault isn't in the book. At most, it highlights how ready people are to believe pretty much anything put in front of them--but I'm inclined to doubt that readers take the book all that seriously."
I'm with Adam on this one. I don't think the DVC is a threat to Christianity. To those that are strong in their faith, the contents of the book/movie will have no impact. Those that start to buy into its notions were probably weak in their faith to begin with.
I believe the Roman Catholic Church is the target, per usual, because it is both one of the oldest and certainly the largest denomination on earth...and it is also especially the dominant faith in the western world where much of this Da Vinci nonsense took place. So I don't think it is so much an anti-Catholic conspiracy so much as that is the only target to attack given the setting of the book. Would she recommend they go after Pentecostalists instead? (even though they didn't appear on the 'scene' til around 1900).
BTW, I am not sure why Barbara Nicolosi takes such issue with the prepend name of Roman, as that is the official name of that church.
I liken the DVC to all the sundry titles I see in the "Politics" section at bookstores like Borders or Barnes and Noble. Anybody can publish a book these days and fill it with whatever rubbish they want.
Too much big deal is being made of all this and it will die just like the Last Temptation of Christ et al. did.>
"BTW, I am not sure why Barbara Nicolosi takes such issue with the prepend name of Roman, as that is the official name of that church."
Actually -- and technically -- no. "Roman" Catholic came into use as a perjorative after the Reformation. Actually the Catholic Church is made up of about 22 rites of which the Roman (Latin) is only one. There are Eastern as well as Western Rites in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
But it's understandable that the name gets confused in the media, et al.>
Christine,
Very well and good point. It is a name of convenience and therefore easy to confuse...but since the title "Roman Catholic Church" is appended to the monument signs in front of nearly every one of those churches, you can see where people attain this understanding and where it is still correct in a way, since that is what they call themselves.>
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