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Communal living

Sunday June 11, 2006

Here's an interesting piece from today's NYTimes op-ed section, examining the contemporary appeal of communal living arrangements. When I think "commune," I think of free love, pot and an insufficient attention to personal hygiene. But that's a stereotype. There are...
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Mungo
June 12, 2006 12:18 AM

Could you share the name of the monastery that the Lawlers' live near? We're in western Mass. as well, and I'd love to get in touch with the community.>

Rod Dreher
June 12, 2006 2:18 AM

Let me ask Phil, and I'll get back to you in this space.>

Maclin Horton
June 12, 2006 6:16 AM
http://www.lightondarkwater.com

There were a number of Christian communities started back in the '70s and early '80s, some just covenants among a group of families, some closer to communes. I'm not sure how many have survived. Bethlehem Books was begun by one such. I don't know that community's current status but the business is going strong. The St. Martin de Porres Community in Kentucky was originally founded by a group of genuine hippies who converted en masse--quite a story. A quick Google shows them still in existence. There were a lot of Catholic Charismatic communities, usually not "communes" but more loosely structured. I'm pretty sure there was a big one in Ann Arbor.>

Chris
June 12, 2006 1:35 PM

Check this out:

">http://www.ruralvillage.org/>

Sabriel MoonStar
June 12, 2006 2:55 PM
http://sorceressandswordsman.com

Won't that just create a whole bunch of young people who have a hard time dealing with people who are different from them? In the real world you have to deal with all sorts of differences. Sheltering children from them just makes it even harder for them to cope with differences.

Just my two cents. As long as people are aware of that when they make the move, then great for them. Every type of living has a downside. It's just not one I'd be willing to concede to, personally.>

Matt
June 12, 2006 3:24 PM
http://mattcrash.blogspot.com

Sabriel makes a fair point. Certainly there are aspects of pop culture that want to sheild our kids against, but there are other aspects that are harmless. One would hope that our kids can at least relate to the average kids.>

Richard Barrett
June 12, 2006 3:41 PM

There were also a number of intentional communities among the Evangelical Orthodox Church in the late 1970s, the group that ultimately was received into the Antiochian Archdiocese.>

Diane Fitzsimmons
June 12, 2006 6:05 PM

I have been reading about the Bartimaeus Community in Washington. It seems like a good situation for Christians.

">http://www.bartcommunity.org/>

Michelle
June 12, 2006 6:52 PM

My husband and I just bought our first home in the city of Everett, WA. We moved from Seattle. It's about 25 miles north. The neighborhood was considered "low income". There are always houses up for sale here and most of them were built in the early part of the 20th century, so good structure and charm. Just need a little fixing up, maybe. We're always hoping a nice family moves into them when they go up for sale. The big plus is that we have a beautiful Catholic Church within walking distance. We'd love for more believing Catholics to live on our street and in our neighborhood. That is our dream. We live in the Riverside neighborhood of Everett. This would be ideal for someone looking to leave their city dwelling if they currently own their home, since they'd probably get the same amount of house for much less money. E-mail me if you're interested.>

watsy
June 12, 2006 7:38 PM

I don't know of any communes. I've heard more about people forming home schooling networks. I'm sure that if you search within your community that you can find a group of people who are homeschooling and protecting their kids from the tripe in the public schools. You don't really need to be next door neighbors to socialize and help out your friends. Every community is large enough that I'm sure that if you look around, you can surround yourself with clones.>

Paul
June 13, 2006 8:44 PM

I think many of the small ethnic enclaves in rural America (as well as some urban ones, for that matter) tend to be those that last. This is especially true for those groups where ethnicity is primarily defined by religion and a committment to religious activity. Though I'm ethnically a German and confirmed a Lutheran--I've been living in a Dutch Reformed subculture with its own Christian schooling network across the country. It is NOT hermetically sealed (though some may think that who are outsiders--in areas like Northwest Iowa where I am. I teach at Dordt College, a school historically linked to the Dutch Calvinists--Kuyperians) --- but it has persisted for generations (though there are signs of this breaking down, in fact). That is an example that tends to work best, I believe, for the long term. They can welcome outsiders and it is not a formal agreement (those usually fail) but one driven by religious motivations of like-minded people.>

Rod Dreher
June 14, 2006 7:05 AM

Mungo, they live out by St. Bernard's, in the town of Harvard (not the university)>

Llyn Peabody
November 5, 2008 6:28 PM
http://www.fullcirclefamily.blogspot.com/

This is an interesting thread. Your opening lines caught my attention as my husband and I have been in the process of creating a communal living situation for some time now and one of our tag-lines is: Communal living, it's not just for hippies anymore. My husband lived for close to 15 years in two different communal situations. They were some of the best years of his life. Both had a faith-base (though not a mainstream Christianity). We would very much like to attract others who are resonant with our vision so we can begin demonstrating the life-style alluded to in Acts 4:32-35 where Jesus' disciples speak of the communal lifestyle they lived in. We want to create a home for many families that is faith-based, environmentally conscious and supportive of people living creatively and lightly on the Earth. If you're interested in reading more, please come to our blog: http://www.fullcirclefamily.blogspot.com Thanks, Llyn

PK
January 17, 2009 7:25 PM

This is old but maybe I will get an answer. I found this looking for Spiritual Self-sufficient Spiritual (non-religious) Rural Communities in the Northwest. I have spent all day googling in search and have not found but one in Oregon that is over crowded. Does anyone know where they are? Thank you.

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