The apparent moderator of the list then was a local convert to Islam who no longer lives here. His comments on the list were illuminating. He proposed to his readers that they launch “a concerted effort to destroy any credibility [Dreher] has to the extent that he become ineffective in his current position.”
He further wrote: “Dreher incites people to hatred and violence against Muslims. We know that in the current social envirnment[sic], any statement made against the community in general places us in danger of violent attacks."
Notice how he phrased that. "Any statement made against the community in general places us in danger of violent attacks." Got that? According to this point of view, to say or write anything critical of Muslims is to incite others to hate Muslims and do violence against them. The attempt here is to shame everyone else into refusing to criticize anyone or anything about the Muslim community. The attempt is to intimidate the media into silence by refusing to allow for the prospect of legitimate criticism.
This man went on:
Dreher needs to be ruined. When people here [sic] the name ‘Rod Dreher’ the image of David Duke should appear in their mind’s eye. So, a campaign must be planned and carefully executed to expose this hate-monger and render him a joke … because right now he is a champion in DFW. He is the voice of the haters, and that voice is potent and dangerous. Yes, he is no Imam, but he is still a danger. Just the idea of a Dreher is dangerous for the community. My idea is more low-key than anything. It should be designed to stay under the radar for a long time. It is not designed to raise any red flags in TDMN. It is not designed to work overnight, but may take time and require patience.
Another member of the group suggested that “We should compile a dossier and alert major churches, temples and local non-Muslim organizations and ask them to contact major DMN advertisers. It is best if pressure came from the wide community as a hole [sic].”
I was fortunate enough to find out about this plan by signing on to the listserv and downloading the thread before they discovered my presence. Happily, I sent it all to company lawyers, because the way the instigator characterized the putative campaign would have been potentially a cause for a defamation lawsuit against them, as they would have intentionally set out to destroy my reputation. In the end, I think my discovering this and publicizing it killed the malicious thing.
I bring it up here as a lesson. Notice how these folks strategized not to meet my own arguments with presumably better arguments of their own, and to have this debate in the public square. They discussed operating a whispering campaign, and co-opting unsuspecting churches, temples and business owners in a stealth effort to paint me as a David Duke bigot to well-meaning non-Muslims.
I can't say how representative this small group is, or was, of Muslim leadership, but I will say that every time someone like Elibiary trots out the "stirring up hatred and inciting violence" charge as a response to criticism, I think about this shabby little backroom discussion I stumbled onto. I think about how members of that listserv were discussing ruining my reputation and harm my newspaper with a groundless whispering campaign designed not to rebut a critic, but to destroy him professionally and to intimidate a newspaper into silence.

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Too much. All I can say.>
It's clear that when critics of Islamo-facism and those who support it, passively or otherwise, take the Islamo-facists seriously, they return the favor.
Obviously they wouldn't be trying to discredit you if they didn't fear the truth and the impact of what you say.>
"Any statement made against the community in general places us in danger of violent attacks."
Note also the projection going on here on the list moderator's part. We tend to assume about others what is true about ourselves -- in this case, this man assumes other communities are as prone to violent reaction as his own.>
This " I don't care about Truth, how dare you criticize us/who are you to criticize us?" mindset of many in the Muslim community is amazing - and when I read things like this, I can't help but wonder just how pervasive this mindset is ...>
Rod,
As someone who was on that thread much longer then you, I find it comical that you're painting yourself a victim here. John, that Muslim convert you spoke of, was right in ways you continue to prove to the rest of the Dallas Muslim community daily as you conduct your ignorent and self-appointed war against "Islamofacism". Go back and reread your language from after 9/11 and tell me if any of those hate filled diatribes can be printed today. The answer is obviously no, because America is walking away from your perspective of whom we're at war with. You my friend are an "Islamophobe" because you can't get away being anti-any other group right now. The sun is setting on your ways, and I'm sure you're seeing the writing on the wall. Why otherwise would you turn a simple comical sentance into a cry wolf situation? Bananagate my left foot.
Peace!>
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