Writes Kathy Shaidle:
Of course, when I brought up this (I thought) well known fact (as well as the aspect of gay "culture" that praises one night stands) on this blog and on TV panels during gay "marriage" debates, I was roundly condemned as a know-nothing trog. For twelve years, I'd lived directly across the street from one of Toronto's most popular crusing parks, the one next to the day care center, the playground of which was littered with used condoms every morning -- but I "didn't know what I was talking about."
It sometimes seems that the only debating tactic left to the Left is to roll their eyes, huff loudly and try to Gaslight you into thinking you don't know what you know. It helps explain some of the fury that drives the Ann Coulters of the world, I think -- raging against the boldfaced lying and headgames of one's opponents.
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In contrast to MNW's assertion, the greatest love is actually love of others, not love of oneself.
This is the teaching of Christianity. It is a paradox, but God made you for love of others, not yourself, and cultivating self-love above all else leads to unhappiness rather than happiness.
As for unhappiness stemming form believing the lies that others tell you about yourself- I would agree and add that one of the foremost lies being told to you is that homosexuality is normal, natural, and the way God wanted you to be. Following that leads to unhappiness. In contrast, accepting that God had a plan when he "made them male and female" and understanding how that plan has been thwarted in your life will start you on the road to healing and happiness.>
If you will pardon the implied argumentativeness, Mr. Tucker, the statement was that self-love is the greatest love, and neither intended nor implied "...cultivating self-love above all else..." This is a common misunderstanding of the concept, and I don't fault you for falling prey to it.
Self-love is the strongest foundation for the love of non-self. It is at the core of conjugal love, communal love, and the highest abstract of love, patriotism. It states, quite simply, that the greater my love can be, the more it will infuse the objects of my love. There is no stronger place for love to reside than inside of me.>
Perhaps that is what MNW meant by self-love, but it surely isn't clear from his post.>
Well, I can't write for MNW, but I am willing to risk a possibly bad assumption and say that it is what she/he meant. It is certainly what I mean by it, and it goes with my post about polyamory.
Something like this: love multiplies, not divides. Anyone with different arithmetic is just not getting the point.>
In contrast to MNW's assertion, the greatest love is actually love of others, not love of oneself. This is the teaching of Christianity.
It may be the teaching of Christianity...but it is not the teaching of Christ.
Love God above all things.
Love your neighbor as your self.
How am I to love my neighbor as myself if I do not love my self?
My love for others is limited by the love I have of self. It is in finding love within, that I have found love to share with others.
It is a paradox, but God made you for love of others, not yourself, and cultivating self-love above all else leads to unhappiness rather than happiness.
It may seem like a paradox to you, but it is not. It's quite clear to me and not contradictory.
Who said anything about "cultivating self-love above all else"?
Within me I have discovered an inifinite well of love. It has no bounds and is always full. It is from this well that I give from. Love is something that is given. It is something that is received. How could I give Love to another if I have not received Love within myself?
As for unhappiness stemming form believing the lies that others tell you about yourself- I would agree and add that one of the foremost lies being told to you is that homosexuality is normal, natural, and the way God wanted you to be.
I know within myself what is true. No one has told me what you claim to be lies. My sexuality is what it is...to me it is perfectly normal, natural, and the way God created me to be. I don't have to listen to others to know these things...they simply are what they are.
Following that leads to unhappiness.
Following people like you is what lead to unhappiness. It is in following the inherent prejudice in your opinions about my life that lead me astray. It is in following people like you that I was lead away from my own heart and my own love within. It is in following the bigotry of Christianist know-it-alls that I was delivered to unhappiness.
It is in accepting myself just as I am...that I found Christ and was accepted by him just the same. People like you could learn a lot from Christ...but even moreso, I believe you could learn a lot from your gay brothers and sisters who have found him, despite all of the stones and boulders laid in our paths by people like you.
In contrast, accepting that God had a plan when he "made them male and female" and understanding how that plan has been thwarted in your life will start you on the road to healing and happiness.
I find it pathetic that people place such emphasis on penises and vaginas, when Christ's message was overwhelmingly one of the heart, spirit, and soul.
Perhaps if YOU were able to get beyond YOUR hang ups with penises and vaginas you might begin to see the purity of heart and spirit your gay brothers and sisters have to share with you...because in my expereience they have so much more love to share with others than you have ever imagined.>
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