There's been some rumbling in various comboxes and in my e-mail box with people wondering what this blog is all about. Someone said a day or so ago that he thought this was supposed to be a place to discuss the ideas put forward in "Crunchy Cons," and he seemed dismayed that we've been talking about the Middle East so much. Others have been writing, both on the blog and in private e-mails to me, complaining about the obnoxious presence of trolls. A typical reader in this regard is David, who e-mailed to say he doesn't understand why the comboxes attract people who don't want to have an actual discussion or exchange of views, but who just want to rant and emote to no useful end. This, David says, makes it hard for readers to sustain an actual discussion among people of various views who might not agree with each other, but who don't want to shriek that those who disagree with them are evil cretins who must be shouted down.
I hear you. Let me repeat: there is nothing I can do about these people as long as they don't violate Bnet's terms. All I can do is to encourage the rest of you to ignore them. I'm doing my best to stick to that strategy. As I've said before here, I don't understand why someone who hates baseball would spend so much time on a blog about baseball, telling everybody why people who are interested in baseball are rat finks. But there are people in this world for whom sitting around the house picking the pills off their afghans is insufficiently entertaining. Whatever. Just try to ignore them. What else can you do?
As far as the purpose of this blog, it's a news and commentary blog where I talk about whatever's going on in the news that day that attracted my interest, or that I consider worthy of comment. Some days I'm going to spend more time talking about crunchy-con stuff than others. It just depends. If there's something you'd like to bring to my attention for possible blogging, or a topic you'd like to talk about or otherwise bring to the attention of this blog's readers, write me at rdreher(at)dallasnews.com, and if my completely annoying spam filter doesn't grab it first, I'll consider posting it.

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It seems to me quite true that the format does sometimes militate against constructive discussion: e.g. were I face to face with Tom T. (the commenter in this thread whose name I recognise from the long George Michael one), my riposte would immediately follow his assertion and a third party's remark that such and such was not the case for this or that reason would be perceived to be directly to the point etc. 'Rigourous discussion' too often becomes statement after statement with the occasional interrogative inserted more or less as a rhetorical flourish.
Also, there is (I should write, I experience) the temptation to prose on and on with the keyboard whereas in conversation I have enough sense (and courtesy) not to expect my interlocutor to endure me speaking uninterruptedly for five minutes.>
I realize this thread is getting pretty far down the page now, so it may have lived out its time, but I wanted to add a few more things by Alan Jacobs that I just remembered. He has a book called "A Theology of Reading: The Hermeneutics of Love," and in the book he talks about, among other things, the ways in which good reading/interpretation should be like good civic conversation. He puts it this way:
A healthy suspicion, bounded by a commitment to the love of neighbor, is more properly discernment: not the discernment of Nietzsche's serpent, which can only suspect and therefore is not discernment at all--since its conclusions are preestablished--but the discernment that is prepared to find blessings and cultivate friendships; in short, to receive gifts. (88)
It seems to me that one of the most important assumptions, and disabling illusions, of contemporary political criticism is the belief that one can seek political justice through one's literary criticism without seeking to be a just person. Critics simply 'assume' that justice is conferred upon them by the justice of their cause, or that being just is Something easily achieved--" (139-140)
Good, rigorous conversation makes demands not just on our mental clarity and ability to muster a good warranted argument, but also on our *character.*
The Brazilian educator Paulo Freire also has a sustained reflection on this in his work "The Pedagogy of the Oppressed"--not necessarily a work I can wholeheartedly endorse, but this is good food for thought:
Dialogue is the encounter between men, mediated by the world, in order to name the world . . . Because dialogue is an encounter among me who name the world, it must not be a situation where some men name on behalf of others. It is an act of creation; it must not serve as a crafty instrument for the domination of one man by another . . . Dialogue cannot exist however, in the absence of a profound love for the world and for men . . . If I do not love the world -- if I do not love life -- if I do not love men -- I cannot enter into dialogue.
On the other hand, dialogue cannot exist without humility . . . Dialogue, as an encounter of men addressed to the common task of learning and acting, is broken if the parties (or one of them) lack humility. How can I dialogue if I always project ignorance onto others and never perceive my own? . . . Dialogue further requires an intense faith in man, faith in his power to make and remake, to create and re-create, faith in his vocation to be more fully human . . . Nor yet can dialogue exist without hope . . . If the dialoguers expect nothing to come of their efforts, their encounter will be empty and sterile, bureaucratic and tedious.
Finally, true dialogue cannot exist unless the dialoguers engage in critical thinking -- thinking which discerns an indivisible solidarity between the world and men and admits of no dichotomy between them -- thinking which perceives reality as process, as transformation, rather than as a static entity . . . Only dialogue, which requires critical thinking, is also capable of generating critical thinking. Without dialogue there is no communication, and without communication there can be no true education.>
Nota bene: by "trolls," I don't mean "people who disagree with me."
Pish-tosh. By "trolls," you mean precisely people who disagree with you.
Rod, you tolerate the most outlandish behavior from people who happen to agree with you. You give a free pass to Caedmon when he calls his debate opponents "harpies" and "shrews" (hint, hint: there's more than a little raw sexism mixed in with that particular Georgie-Porgie offensive).
Meanwhile, no matter how reasoned or careful the arguments of your debate oppponents, you yourself lob spitball after spitball at said opponents. You resort to name-calling worthy of seventh-grade playground bullies: "weirdos," "cranks," "knotheads," "poor twisted souls" (love that dimestore armchair psychoanalysis of people you don't know from Adam, BTW). Your whole approach suggests to me that the Crunchy Christian motto must be: "What's love got to do with it?"
Then you have the noive, the immortal crust, to blame your comboxers for the tone of this blog? Which of your debate opponents on this blog has ever called you a weirdo or a knothead or a poor twisted soul? I assure you that I certainly haven't. But then, I was brought up not to call people names. And I was always led to believe that love and respect for other human beings did have something to do with Christianity.
God bless,
Diane>
But there are people in this world for whom sitting around the house picking the pills off their afghans is insufficiently entertaining.
LOL--just noticed this one. So now Rod can not only read minds but also see into our homes with his X-ray vision.
Paathetic. Cheap ad hominem and utterly pathetic. But, then again, "what's love got to do with it?" -- right? Love, nothin'. Rod doesn't even go in for minimal courtesy and respect, it seems.
Good grief....
Diane, typing this from her office at the Fortune 100 corporation for which she works...and BTW, did I mention that I don't own an afghan? ;)>
WHERE'S MY AFGHAN???
I WANT TO PICK THE PILLS OFF OF IT!!!
YOY KNOW THOSE THINGS DON'T REMOVE THEMSELVES!!!!>
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