On one side, you have people -- usually Christians -- who speak with complete certainty about the lives of homosexuals, their "choice" to be gay, and how healing awaits them if they'd only come to Jesus. On the other, you gays and their allies who will not tolerate any divergence from the party line that everything is always and everywhere perfect in gay lives, and that any questioning is a sign of the foulest bigotry, to be denounced and vilified without quarter. Left in the vast middle, I believe, are people like Julie Lyons -- whether or not they personally struggle with same-sex attraction. Speaking for myself, I have and have had gay friends who are saner and better adjusted than most straights I know; it is only an ideologue who could look at these men and women and see utter brokenness and despair. It's just not there. But I have also had gay friends who are sex-addicted messes in a way that the straights I know just ... aren't. And broadly speaking, there is something about gay male culture, with its deification of desire, that I find deeply disordered. You can't read books like Randy Shilts' "And The Band Played On," which in part chronicled the refusal of San Francisco's gay male community to close the bathhouses despite the raging AIDS epidemic, without having profound questions of the spirit behind much of this stuff. And yet, even though I do believe in the traditional Christian/Biblical teaching on homosexuality, when I hear some Christians pronouncing so authoritatively about the matter, and what is to be done, I cringe, and wonder, "Do you even know any gay people?"
Given the fiercely clashing ideologies, to read someone like Julie Lyons come forward and talk about the complicated realities of struggling with not only same-sex attraction, but sexuality in general -- well, it's liberating. (So has been the work of my friend David Morrison, a chaste orthodox Catholic and former gay activist who does not respect the political correctness of the right or the left in his writing about same-sex attraction.) And to be perfectly frank, though I believe she got to a good point (by the grace of God and her own openness to the leading of the Holy Spirit), if she had become a lesbian, I still would have been grateful for her testimony in this piece. What she does here is talk about a real life, about the refusal to accept easy answers and false solutions for her brokenness. I suspect there are very few heterosexuals who haven't struggled to master their own sexual brokenness, especially in a culture that instructs you to accept it and indulge it as "who you are" -- as if our true and complete identity was determined by our sexual desires. I believe that there is a "right ordering" of our sexual desires, and that all of us are required to struggle to achieve it, all the days of our life. It is never easy, certainly not in a culture like ours, for reasons already stated. But the difficulty of the struggle doesn't relieve us from the obligation to embrace it, and to show mercy to our fellow strugglers, but not at the sacrifice of living in truth.
Of course we argue over what it means to "live in truth" about sex and sexuality, but look, can't we stand down a bit and try to see what the other side is saying, and just ... listen, with an open mind, putting aside the compulsion to demonize, instead seeking to understand, even if we are unlikely to agree? I see the whole public conversation about homosexuality as being like the one we have on the Iraq war: on vast segments of the Right, to express any doubts about this administration, its case for war, its conduct of the war, etc., is to show yourself to be the worst kind of traitor to the Glorious Cause. And on the Left, to express any doubts about the dogma that Bush is Chimpy McHitler, and undertook this war from the basest of motives, etc., is to be the worst kind of traitor to the Glorious Cause.
I'm awfully tired of Glorious Causes, especially when they render the difficult and complicated truths of lived human experience into politically and emotionally useful abstractions.
Anyway, I first learned about the Lyons essay on FrontBurner, the snarky, must-read blog of D, the Dallas city magazine. There was some expected commentary about how Lyons must be a self-hating closet case, and so forth, but I really liked what the magazine's publisher, Wick Allison, a conservative who is very comfortable with and friendly to gays (you'd have to be to go to his parish) had to say in response:
All I've read so far on FB, pardon me for saying so, is a bunch of secular media people unable to fathom the depth and complexity of a woman's Christian faith. Perhaps it is impossible to grasp unless one has faced the demons she speaks of, not just about one's sexuality, but about alcoholism or drug addiction or personal corruption or the scores of other ills that afflict the human soul. As she notes, opinions about the "causes" of homosexuality are a dime a dozen. She's talking about something more important than that. I admire her honesty in making such a heartfelt witness--which, like most witness, is made to an uncomprehending world.
Amen and amen.

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Brent,
Did Rod really say, "Deprivileging traditional marriage has had deleterious consequences for our society"???
I would love to know what "privileges" you betterosexuals have "lost" since I got married? I would also love to know exactly what these "deleterious consequences for our society" are?
"the state of marraige has an impact on society at large, not just on the people who are, themselves, married"
An interesting supposition. But it is tinged with a thinly veiled hint that somehow MY marriage has negatively impacted society at large. Other than upsetting the radical religious rightwing, I'd love to know how.
"[Rod's opposition is] based on the concern that changing the legal/social/secular structure of marraige would have deleterious effects on society."
It would seem so. I just wish he could explain HOW my marriage has had deleterious effects.
"I suspect his position is representative of the majority of conservatives."
Me too, unfortunately.
"They don't hate gays"
They sure say some hateful things (see above comments about kleptomania and arsonists, as well as Foulwell's blaming Hurricane Katrina and 9/11 on gays, and the Parliamentary Justice Committee hearings where our relationships are compared to necrophilia, beastiality, rape, incest, child molestation, cannabalism, having sex with babies, etc. - and NO, I am NOT making this up).
"They are afraid of the impact that gay marraige would have on the structure of society, but that's a different thing."
It certainly IS. And they are welcome to articulate those fears. We on the left think they are unfounded.>
Hmmm,
I notice that someone challenged me as to whether or not I 'actually' had witnessed those things being said about me, and so I posted reams of proof with references and names.
All gone now.
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This discussion concerning homosexuality and fornication seem to be leaving out the most basic considerations, namely, whether or not this subject is addressed in the Bible. The Scriptures forbid fornication in every instance outside of marriage between a man and a woman. Just a superficial seach will reveal this. God only speaks to us through His Word and if we are sincerely trying to do what is demanded of us as Christians then we would respect what the Scriptures teach us concerning this matter. The catch in all of this of course is that the world can do as it pleases, Christians are commanded not to judge the world, God will judge the world, He has commanded Christians to be faithful and to obey His commandments, and if we love God, we will keep His commandments.>
God only speaks to us through His Word and if we are sincerely trying to do what is demanded of us as Christians then we would respect what the Scriptures teach us concerning this matter.
I pity those who have not experienced relationship with God...and have limited themselves to relationship with Scripture. Arxland, you can believe all you want that God only speaks to you in writing, that's your prerogative. But as someone who has sought something more and found it, I must kindly ask that you not presume and make such generalizations as "God only speaks to us through His Word".
It is my experience that God speaks to me however He so chooses. He may speak to me in the words of the next novel I read, or the next newspaper article, or magazine, or tv show script, or in the dialogue of two characters in a play. He can speak to me in the whisper of the wind, or in the rustling of leaves, or the rushing of water crashing downward to a pool. It may be the next song I hear, or in the voice of the next stranger I meet on the street. All of these are His. All of these He uses. One just has to believe it and have faith...to seek in order to find.
God is so much more than a few words written in a book, Arxland. God is so much more than that. He cannot be contained by mere words. He can only be experienced to fully know Him. God is Love...and Love is an experience no words could ever fully convey.
He has commanded Christians to be faithful and to obey His commandments, and if we love God, we will keep His commandments.
His commandments:
Love God above all things
Love your neighbor as yourself
Can you explain to me, Arxland, specifically how a married gay couple is violating either of these commandments?>
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