Crunchy Con

There they go again

Wednesday September 20, 2006

The New York Times weighs in again with another ignorant and objectionable editorial about the Benedict controversy. Excerpts, with my comments in [bold brackets]:

The pope and the Vatican can also do more. For the past two years, Benedict has been a no-show at interfaith gatherings in Assisi, begun 20 years ago by his predecessor, John Paul II. Last year, he issued an edict revoking the autonomy of Assisi’s Franciscan monks, a move that was seen as a reaction against the monks’ interfaith activism. On the occasion of this year’s gathering, he issued a statement about religion and peace that was read by an envoy, but his absence spoke louder than his words.

[I know the Times's idea of religious dialogue is a priest, a rabbi, an imam and a Buddhist monk singing "Kum-Ba-Yah" in four-part harmony, but grown-ups should ask themselves why Benedict chose to stay away from the event. Benedict was sick and tired of the local Franciscans letting it turn into a polytheistic carnival. When African voodoo priests sacrifice chickens to their pagan gods near the tomb of St. Clare, it was time to put a stop to this nonsense. Benedict is not against dialogue with other religions, but he demands that reasonable limits be set. If a Pope has to accept chicken-slaughter by voodoo priests at a Christian holy site to appease the gods of East 43rd Street, then to hell with the gods of East 43rd Street.]

The pope also recently reassigned the Vatican’s former head of interreligious dialogue, Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald, an expert on Arab affairs, to a diplomatic post in Egypt. According to a report in The Times by Ian Fisher, the move was interpreted by some church experts as reflecting Benedict’s skepticism of dialogue with Muslims. As his unfortunate comments show, the pope needs high-level experts on Islam to help guide him.

[Oh? John Paul's tireless reaching-out to the Islamic world did nothing, as far as I can tell, to make life easier for the persecuted Christian populations under Islamic rule. If the only thing Abp Fitzgerald was good for was appeasement under the pretense of dialogue, then why not take another approach -- a more realistic one this time?]

In offering his regrets, the pope said that in its totality, his speech was intended as “an invitation to frank and sincere dialogue, with great mutual respect.” In living up to that, he and other top Vatican officials will have to accept that genuine communication cannot occur on their terms only.

[Now this really does beat all. In recent years, Muslims have been setting the terms of this so-called dialogue by threatening murder and causing mayhem when somebody from the West offends their delicate sensibilities. We in the West -- well, our media at least -- snivel and scrape and bow to the wildest fanaticism. And now the Times has the gall to blame Benedict for trying to impose his conditions for dialogue on the Islamic world?! Oh, vomit.]
Comments
M_David
September 21, 2006 9:43 PM

elmo writes:

As somebody else stated earlier, which bears repeating, the same people criticizing the pope for speaking up against Islamicism, are also criticizing Pope Pius XII for not doing more to stop Nazism.

Ouch! That's so true I just had to see it again.


FzxGkJssFrk writes:

Rod, I would encourage you to just stop reading the Times editorial page. It's for your health. I did it, and YOU CAN TOO!

Yeh, but the flashbacks can be killer :-)


Susan writes:

The NYT questions the powerful.

Ahh, but who questions the NYT? Certainly not the media - they gulp it down hook, line, and sinker.>

Susan
September 21, 2006 11:01 PM

The people decide whether to believe the NYT. If they'd rather believe Rush Limbaugh or the 700 Club, that's their choice.>

David J. White
September 22, 2006 12:23 AM

Personally, given a choice among that particular rogues' gallery, I'd pick the NYT. But I have a feeling that there are more people in this country to listen to Rush and watch the 700 Club than read the NYT.>

Jason Pitzl-Waters (The Wild H
September 22, 2006 6:42 PM
http://www.wildhunt.org/blog.html

Voodoo priests doing blood sacrifices right in front of the tomb! How disrespectful! How shocking! If it were actually true.

"In the interview, [Rev. Vincenzo] Coli acknowledged the criticism but defended the meetings. He denied Messori's assertion that African animists sacrificed chickens on the altar near the tomb of Saint Clare, a contemporary of Saint Francis. Criticism of the Franciscans' activities is a way of indirectly criticizing John Paul, he added...He said that meetings with members of other religions were not a sign of weakened faith, but a mark of mature, confident belief. "We can therefore be open to communication. Clashes are not necessary," he said."

Either Dreher believes the Franciscan to be a liar, or his invective isn't troubled by facts.>

R. T. A. de Vore
October 22, 2008 8:09 PM

Contrary to regrettable misconception, Judeo-Christian traditions are unequivocally monotheistic. Furthermore,
the Roman Catholic Church considers herself to have been divinely founded, with a mission entrusted to her by our Lord Jesus Christ: namely, to teach God-fearing faithful historic Christian doctrine; to preach the Gospel to a jaded world, whether in season or out of season. Clearly, Pope Benedict XVI, Vicar of Christ, should have been moved to tears and to action when proponents of inter-faith dialogue demonstrated scant
regard for the sacred space proper to sanctuary and Tabernacle. Have modern men and women such itching ears that they cannot tolerate Christian orthodoxy and Christian discipline? Must a dictatorship of relativism
reduce everything Christian to a theatre of absurdity?

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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