Crunchy Con

Barone on populism

Wednesday November 8, 2006

What's going on with "economic nationalists," better known as Lou Dobbs Democrats? Michael Barone says they flopped:

In cycle after cycle, we hear that certain forms of populism–full-throated
opposition to immigration and free trade–will sweep all before them. The 2006
results, at least as I see them now, provide less than full-throated support for
this proposition. Two of the loudest critics of illegal immigration–incumbent J.
D. Hayworth and open seat primary winner Randy Graf, both in Arizona, where
illegals have been famously streaming through the border–both evidently lost.
And in upstate New York, where National Republican Campaign Committee Chairman Tom Reynolds was in terrible trouble after the Mark Foley scandal broke, his Republican-turned-Democratic opponent Jack Davis also lost, in a region where
there had been a huge loss of manufacturing jobs. Nativism and protectionism are
political weapons that in a certain light look very strong, which seem to be
gleaming swords that will slay all before them. But, again and again, they crack
like glass in your hand. If nativism can't work on the Arizona border, and
protectionism can't work in upstate New York, where can they work?


Not so fast, says Jacob Weisberg:

Most of those who reclaimed Republican seats ran hard against free trade,
globalization, and any sort of moderate immigration policy. That these Democrats
won makes it likely that others will take up their reactionary call. Some of the
newcomers may even be foolish enough to try to govern on the basis of their
misguided theory.

There is an important distinction to be made between economic populism
and economic nationalism. Many of Tuesday's Democratic victors stressed familiar
populist themes: the little guy against the big guy; corporate misbehavior; and
tough times faced by working people. Al Gore ran in 2000 as an economic populist
and so, implausibly, did John Kerry in 2004. Raising the minimum wage (which
Republicans stupidly failed to do before the election) is a classic populist
position. Opposing Bush tax cuts for the wealthy is another. But in places where
Democrats made their most-impressive inroads this year, one heard a distinctly
different message of economic nationalism. Nationalism begins from the populist
premise that working people aren't doing so well. But instead of blaming the
rich at home, it focuses its energy on the poor abroad. The leading economic
nationalist today is probably Lou Dobbs, who on nights other than Election Night natters on against free trade, outsourcing, globalization, and immigration on CNN.
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Maximos
November 9, 2006 10:12 PM
www.enchiridion-militis.com

GIITTV,

Thanks. I sometimes even enjoy writing them.:))>

god_is_in_the_tv
November 10, 2006 1:03 AM

I know that jobs we would consider lower eschelon work, drawing high school graduates and bachelors holders are highly sought after in the third world, attracting the top candidates in the respective industries.

A job that would pay 10.00 USD to a midwesterner, or 12.00 USD to coaster pays 1.90 USD in India and a little more than that in the Philipines.

The dissonance that causes me is nothing compared to this: the population of those countries is so great that companies can afford to hire graduate degree holders for a pittance, but for WAY more than the average wage in the region.

This is, naturally, fantastic news for the most priviledged and educated caste in India - they can afford to have Western comforts and live the American Dream, further insulating them from the brutal poverty in most of the country.

Here's the question I find most disconcerting:

Why can degreed professionals in India afford a mortgage, car payment, medical insurance and all of those Middle Class trappings doing an entry level job, but degreed American workers can't afford much more than apartment life and Wal-Mart on 5 times the wage?

And exactly who's getting rich off of this?>

down with the nanny state
November 10, 2006 2:20 PM
hry/stry.php?storyId=5736831

Anyway Maximos

Thanks for the exchange, I appreciate you humoring me ;). In the end I think we all want the same thing for everyone, American or otherwise. I am sure that there is a 'right' answer to the question out there somewhere, but without knowing for sure all we can do is stay involved. I am sure my beliefs will continue to evolve as they always have.>

Maximos
November 10, 2006 4:46 PM
www.enchiridion-militis.com

Thanks, DWTNS

I hope that I haven't been too rancorous.

GIITTV,

I doubt that there exists a simple explanation for that reality. It would have to take into account differing levels of development, comparative levels of development in particular industries as between nations, the peculiarities of law and regulation - or the lack thereof - in each country, and so on. The only relatively clear element of that situation is the globalization typically imposes hardship upon the lower classes in the developed nations, while providing significant benefits to the educated professional in third-world nations, who are able to avail themselves of a sort of multiplier effect that results from the intersection of their rising wages (which remain meager only by Western standards) with the overall poverty of their nation.>

Michael Blowhard
November 10, 2006 7:03 PM
www.2blowhards.com

Congrats to all for a topnotch combox fiesta. FWIW, I'm with Maximos on 110% of this, but I've really enjoyed everyone's contributions. Civil, brainy, informed and open -- hard to beat that!>

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