From a Seattle reader of "Crunchy Cons":
I've recently come across your "Crunchy Con Manifesto." It was with great interest that I read your nine tenets, and I shared them with my friends and acquaintances who are as interested in the intersection of politics, culture and faith as I am.
I should let you know here that I consider myself, for the lack of a better political label, a liberal. As a religious person, I have problems with the left's dismissal of religion, but overall I find the current trend of american conservative to be so authoratarian and oppressive of personal freedoms and so materialistic that I figure better the devil you know than the one who scares the dickens out of you.
When I read your manifesto (three days ago), shortly after the elections, all I could think of was a sense of relief- your book was written a year ago, I believe, but it fell into my awareness at a time when my deep personal fear was (and remains) that as Americans we have been so fractured and polarized by the past six (or possibly even ten) years, that we will be unable to reverse course. Bitter infighting and power struggles within the united states scares me deeply, as I think it should scare anyone who calls the US it's home. Whether from patriotism or sheer pragmatism, it seems a truly frightening thing to imagine years of bitterness and mistrust of each other.
These thoughts being on my mind, I read your manifesto feeling a tremendous sense of interest. As you yourself must know, much of what you've written (in the manifesto, I haven't had a chance to read your book, it's on the slate for this Sunday evening) could have been the bullet points in any number of leftist manifestos. In fact, when I posted a link to your article in my on line blog, several of my friends assumed it had been written by a friend of ours (a loud and vocal liberal). And clearly, you are not seeking to switch your identity. You view these things as being in keeping with the conservative ideology or value system that is (from your articles that I've read in the National Review) very serious and important to you.
When I mentioned to my friends that you were writing as a conservative who plans on staying conservative, my friends responses also intrigued me. There was a sense that you are trying to co-opt liberal ideas for your own uses. Or frustration- why not just call yourself liberal?
For myself, I do not have those questions of frustrations. It seems apparent to me in the very manifesto that you are relying on axioms that are conservative, rather than liberal, by nature. Your apeals to tradition and faith are in keeping with conservative values as I understand them. And we all get very deeply married to our titles and the tribe we identify with. There is much about conservative values that appeal to me and that I live out, but I will probaby always have sticking points that are non negotioable that put me in the liberal camp.
Ultimately, it seems to me (and here I am wondering about whether or not you agree), the label is less important than the values and ideas that you espouse.
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In my circle, the word "conservative" is a perjorative, and the other day a friend and I who were in the middle of a heated discussion called me a "republican"- it was meant to be a cutting insult. My family, who lives in the very conservative area of Western NY between Buffalo and Rochester, are very quick to assert that they are not liberal when they discuss the plight of the poor or the problems they see in rampant business interests being unregulated. It seems that these words contain such huge psychic darkness to us that it is difficult to get beyond their shadows, at this point, to find common ground.
But the world is not that big, and it seems to be shrinking, rather than expanding. We don't have that many places to escape to. It seems to me that anything that can allow us to work together on some shared issues is valuable. ...It seems to me there is much in your manifesto that could be common, shared ground between liberals and conservatives. How open are you to thsi being used that way? Do you feel that it is important that liberals come to your brand of conservatism (get into the fold, so to speak) before you would work with them on issues of common ground?
I find this kind of thing encouraging. Of course there are areas of common interest on which conservatives and liberals ("conservatives" and "liberals") can and should work together. The trick is un-learning mistrusting and despising each other categorically. Sometimes when I check in on Daily Kos, I am taken aback by how intoxicated people are with hatred of their political opponents. You see the same thing on some right-wing comboxes. Prior to the election, a friend of mine was writing things that were simply deranged with malice toward Democrats. You do wonder where this stuff ends up.
The conservative historian John Lukacs has some worthwhile thoughts in his most recent book "Democracy and Populism: Fear and Hatred." He talks here about how learning to hate without guilt is a political strength:
As early as 1921 in one of his speeches [Hitler] announced: "There is only defiance and hate, hate and again hate!" And: "The lesson of life is to hate and to be hard." This impressed Goebbels whwen he met Hitler in 1926. Hitler kept telling him how he, Hitler, "had learned to hate." "His most beautiful phrase," Goebbels wrote in his diary, "yesterday: 'God has graced our struggle abundantly. God's most beautiful gift beswoted on us the hate of our enemies, whom we in turn hate from the bottom of our hearts.'" That was for him, and for many others, an element of strength.
Of course the concept of "hate" is much abused in our political discourse; when someone accuses a critic of "hate," more often than not it's a lame attempt to shut down an argument the respondent would prefer not to be having. Still, it's worth considering Lukacs's contention in the book that the Left is motivated primarily by fear (of what those awful Rightists plan to do, reflecting "anxiety and fear about the potential mass appeal of populist nationalism in the age of popular sovereignty") and the Right primarily motivated by hate (of Leftists). Lukacs's book is eccentric, and I don't see that his distinction between fear and hatred carries with it a significant difference in the contemporary American political context. What is more important, I think, is his observation here:
"What is relevant here is that those who hate often believe that, apart from or beyond justice, they pssess certain truths about their enemies, important and decisive truths underlying the characters of the latter."
That's the thing we have to all push back against, because our age pushes so hard in the other direction. Our media encourage us to think of our opponents as the Enemy, and (necessarily) the Other. I am often at a loss to read and listen to liberal polemics about conservatives, especially religious conservatives, because they sound like malicious cartoons, and have little to do with actual people. I'm quite sure that liberals would feel the same way hearing many conservatives talk about them. If you read my book, you'll see that I grounded the ideas in the manifesto in conservative thought and history. I'm glad her friends, though, heard the ideas first without having them framed as conservative. They let down their guard and considered the ideas as ideas. For conservative audiences, framing these ideas as conservative -- that is, showing how they are rooted in traditionalist conservatism -- is perhaps a way of having them drop their guard, and consider their validity as ideas.
Maybe the way to begin to find common ground is to start considering ideas as ideas, instead of trying to pigeonhole them into labels that don't work well anymore. Maybe the way to begin to find common ground is to start considering people as people. If the ideas are bad, or the people are bad, then reject them. But let's think first, not just emote, or react. Why not?

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Thanks, M.D.M.>
I'm old enough to remember when was incondsidered impolite to discuss politics, as well as religion in public. It seems to me that there was an understanding that ALL political views and ALL religious views were subjective opinions, and actually personal views.
Now, it seems that both sides of any political disagreement and even religious disagreement believe that simply because they hold their opinions passionately that those opinions rise to the level of "fact" or worse yet religious "truth.">
Starting a Christian eco-friendly, even eco-centric business, I find myself sitting right in the hotseat between both the "conservative" and "liberal" camps. Decidedly, it tends to be the "liberal" camp that is more suspicious, but there is cause for hope.
I got back a few days ago from a "Green Business Conference" that started the day of the elections. While I sat quietly observing and learning, the derision, even palpable hate that I heard and felt expressed for "conservatives" from the speakers and audience there, along with the unspoken, but overt normalization of much that the majority of our U.S. population would clearly call immoral, was so overwhelming that I literally got physically ill one of the days.
Once over that, I was able to regain composure and set out trying to do what I went there to do - find the things and people to build the business in order to glorify God and encourage good stewardship of this wonderful Earth God has given us responsibility for. I was able to approach an environment that was mostly consumed in a one-sided perspective in peace and profess what I was doing with a bit of new-found wisdom and - surprise! - found a few like me there, and a few who didn't know someone like me (a "crunchy" conservative) existed.
Ultimately, the pointers are simple, though the execution... well we have to work that out:
Matthew 22:
36 "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" 37 And He said to him, " `YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' 38 "This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 "The second is like it, `YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' 40 "On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."
And this helps me - Proverbs 16:3
"Commit your works to the LORD And your plans will be established.">
Burlap Bagg,
I think that Lukacs's distinction between fear and hatred is best understood at the level of decision-making, when we are confronted with incompatible and mutually exclusive courses of action. The distinction becomes necessary (and sharpened) when it boils down to these essential and unavoidable questions:
1. Are you willing to hurt yourself in order to hurt your enemy?
2. Or, are the things you value (and the people you love) more important to you than attacking or punishing your foes?
Hitler is of course a good example of #1 - the hatred of Jews and communists that led him to overcome and overlook the real fear of the destruction of Germany.
I don't think that Stalin is a good example of #2, but rather the Soviet people during the time of the Nazi invasion. They rallied around a leader they feared (and in many cases despised) in order to protect themselves and their country from an unprecedented threat.
Lukacs does a marvelous job of showing us that hatred is ultimately self-destructive, whereas fear, because it looks to protecting what one loves and values, at least makes way for some kind of truce between antagonistic parties. However, the problem today is that the Left does not quite know how to order its priorities, is not willing to compromise in order to address the most severe problems (as Rod pointed out, liberals are generally not willing to compromise on abortion in order to mitigate economic disparity). The Right, it seems to me, has been reeling after getting mugged by the reality of its own devising. Heaven help the conservative who gets mugged, for in what direction does he have to go, other than make the laws so harsh that they become crimes, i.e. become in effect a mafioso?>
I've spent a lot of time teaching college, and my students were mostly in the dark about what "liberalism" and "conservatism" mean (and even more so about the difference between "left" and "right.") The closest they could get was the idea that conservatism worried about sex and liberalism worried about racism. But conservatives really do make their platform a lot clearer--"opposition to abortion, gay marriage, and stem cell research."
Liberals, on the other hand, seem to have not only a hard time defining themselves, but a hard time being clearly and logically defined by the other side. Nobody could possibly be simultaneously as weak, stupid, wily, and dangerous as liberals get depicted.
Which leads me to try to avoid the labels altogether whenever I can. Maybe we all need to try it?>
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