Stem-cell initiative failing

G,
Now, surely you don't believe that a newborn baby is a "person", and that the same baby, in it's mother's womb 30 minutes before delivery, is *not* a person?
How about one minute before delivery?
How about at the point of crowning?
Head out?
Torso?
Where?
Where do *you* draw the line?
Just curious.>

I think we have to be careful here because many times in human history groups of people have been systematically abused, discriminated against and even killed based on their "status" as less than human (or not quite human). Example: the Jews in Nazi Germany and African Americans during our own period of slavery. You see, very few people would argue that you should not abuse other people. That human beings deserve dignity, respect and freedom from harm at the hands of others. Therefore, if you want to abuse a group of people, you simply start at the point of de-humanizing them. Make them seem not quite as human as the rest of us and you can begin to take away rights and treat them in a way that is convenient to you and your way of life.

Do we really believe that the entire South was a group of monstrous, inhumane people to have abused and "owned" an entire group of other people? Or were they simply good, decent people (on the whole) that allowed themselves to believe that blacks weren't quite human in the way they were human so that they could preserve their way of life?? You see, many did truly believe that what they were doing was o.k. because black weren't like them (and were only 3/5 ths human).

My point is that this is what I believe is happening with abortion. Abortion (and ECSR)cannot be legal and socially acceptable if those are BABIES in there...therefore they must not be babies yet...let's call them blatocytes, zygotes, fetuses,embryos, etc...and then we can do what we want.

I know that many people today truly believe that they are not People like you and I are people...but then again what seems obvious to us now (that African Americans are indeed our human equals and deserving of equal treatment and freedom) wasn't nearly so obvious back in those days.>

Granted...

How do you enforce it without treading on the civil liberties of the women in question?

You can't lock up every pregnant woman in a government run "gestatatorium" for 9 months to ensure they all carry to term. How do we stop abortion without telling women that they cease to matter once those first two cells meet?

What is your solution?>