Crunchy Con

Why am I supposed to dislike Webb?

Wednesday November 1, 2006

I read Andrew Ferguson's wonderful Weekly Standard piece about Jim Webb's campaign, and like the author, I wondered why on earth conventional Democrats like this reactionary ... and I wondered why on earth I shouldn't. Excerpt:The culture so dramatically symbolized...
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jttoye
November 1, 2006 11:20 PM

I think if you like him, and God forbid, vote for him you run the risk of being designated an enemy combatant, and having your rights taken away. Sound crazy? I would like to think so, but our sitting president Mr. Bush has said publicly that a Democratic victory is a win for the terrorists. How much of a stretch is it really?>

Susan S.
November 1, 2006 11:23 PM

I live in Northern Virginia and every Democrat I know in this liberal enclave is backing him because . . . he isn't Allen and he opposes the War. That's all that matters. I was recently polled and I said I had unfavorable views of both Allen and Webb.

The difference is that Webb will vote "D" when it's time to elect a majority leader and committee chairs. I don't really care what he does after that.>

Alicia
November 1, 2006 11:56 PM

Yes, Webb opposes the War and is also proud of his son, who is serving in the military at present (in either Iraq or Afghanistan, I'm not sure). If I lived in Virginia instead of the District of Columbia, I would, for sure, be supporting Webb.>

Tim
November 2, 2006 12:07 AM

In my opinion, the average every day Democratic voter isn't any more actuality represented by the lefty caricature the press portrays, than the average, every day Christian is accurately represented by Jerry Falwell, ect.

I think a lot of us, myself included, have rather embarrassingly and lazily let ourselves be manipulated into believing that it's "us vs them" or "our side vs theirs".

Obviously there are genuine, legitimate differences in the governing philosophies of liberals and conservatives. But this idea that people whom we differ with on this policy or that policy, is bad or evil or un-American, has torn this country apart.

When someone (like Frank Schaeffer) comes to this realization, I look at it not as with win or loss for either political party, but a gain for our country.>

Tim
November 2, 2006 12:07 AM

oops, *accurately>

Knemon
November 2, 2006 3:06 AM

"Sound crazy?"

Yes, actually!>

Josh Levy
November 2, 2006 3:09 AM

Mr. Dreher:

Ethnic pride is often beneficial, but not when used as a political principle.

There is nothing conservative about Webb's idea of rescuing the country from the non-rednecks. It is merely coarse, narrow-minded and nativist braggadocio.

Josh Levy
Charlottesville, VA>

Ed Graham
November 2, 2006 3:22 AM

Rod--why shouldn't you like Webb? Well, for one thing, he supports Roe v. Wade.

">http://www.issues2000.org/Social/James_Webb_Abortion.htm>

simon
November 2, 2006 3:31 AM

And the Webb commercials I've seen this week lead with Allen's refusal to "support stem cell research."

If Jim Webb is crunchy, so was Ross Perot.>

Steve
November 2, 2006 3:40 AM

Rod,

Why should you dislike Webb? You're kidding right?

The passages you cited from Ferguson's piece are reasons why DEMOCRATS should dislike Webb.

You should dislike him because: 1.) He has no formed opinions on domestic political matters and thus will adopt those that are most likely to facilitae the accumulation of power. 2.) He is, even for a political candidate, incredibly intellectually dishonest -- a lifetime Republican, a recent supporter of Governor (and Senator) Allen, a recent aggressive critic of Bill Clinton, and a man who refused for decades to shake hands with John Kerry -- who has nonetheless turned on Allen, and embraced both Clinton and Kerry, all in the name of power. 3.) He, quite simply, does not believe in the constitutional principle of civilian primacy over the military. For all the imaginary complaints about Bush and Cheney taking away civil liberties, here's a guy with truly despotic ideas. 4.) He was a respected soldier, philosopher, historian, and novelist; but after this campaign, he is nothing more than a self-absorbed, self-righteous bully, easily as much a bully as his opponent. 5.) He is pro-"choice."

Can I stop now?>

Bob
November 2, 2006 3:57 AM

Webb was an honorable and heroic Marine...but he's a dirtbag as a politician. He's allowed the nutroots to act as his dirty campaign proxies, saying little or nothing as anonymous allegations of racism were casually tossed at George Allen, gleefully scooped up by his campaign newsletter, the WaPost, and the meme persists to this day. Allen made one mistake...a big one...with macaca. Webb is indeed a swaggering bully, who is utterly clueless on the issues (save for Iraq). If he deserves election, so does Ned Lamont.>

Dave in VA
November 2, 2006 12:58 PM

There's not much I can add to Bob and Steve's capable evisceration of Webb--the guy is a chameleon.

It's going to be a "near-run thing" in Virginia. That said, I'm made more confident that Allen is going to win by the "yard sign quotient:" Webb signs far outnumber Allen signs in what I've seen of VA, and that quixotically works in the GOP's favor (our state was lousy with Kerry signs in '04)>

Reg
November 2, 2006 1:10 PM

Maybe ignoring the abortion holocaust is a crunchy position.>

watsy
November 2, 2006 2:38 PM

I don't think it's fair to say that Webb is sleazy because he's been a Republican his whole life and has switched to the Democratic Party. He might feel betrayed by the Republicans.

He's right that the GOP does nothing for the working man. How does joining the GOP benefit the working man? The GOP(in power for the past 12 years in Congress)have done nothing to help with rising health care costs. The GOP has fixed it so that if you have a catastrophic illness, you can't declare bankruptcy. It doesn't take much of an illness for it to be catastrophic to a working man. Health care doesn't seem to be a concern within the GOP. Webb thinks that a minimum wage hike could help the rednecks. He might be right. The GOP worries more about those pesky estate taxes that millionares need to concern themselves with at a time when they should be banking more money. The fact that Webb is a military man and is outraged by the position that our men and women in uniform have been placed is a sign of integrity. As a long standing Republican, he could have swallowed the Bush bull and climbed the ranks within the party by using his military bankground as clout. He could have been a swiftboater and been rewarded substantially for being a GOP sleaze man. Instead, he's supporting the troops.

What's not to like?>

Peggy
November 2, 2006 3:09 PM
http://www.soilcatholics.blogspot.com

We left VA this year to be near family. I'm sorry we're not there with our Allen signs on our lawn. We were on a busy street.

I don't think Allen's any saint. He may have said racist things in other times. The WaPo's character assassination of him has been unconscionable.

If all of NoVA is on the Webb wagon, I'm not.>

Liberty4All
November 2, 2006 3:51 PM

Rod,

Webb is pro-choice & pro gay marriage. Is that enough for you not to support him?>

s.a.farris
November 2, 2006 5:49 PM

Webb is pro-choice and against the Marriage Amendment(ballot Question #1), yes. His NoVa support is based substantially on his opposition to Bush/Allen's Iraq apologia, again yes.
I live between Springfield and Annandale, VA, in a middle-class, inside-the-Beltway area of NoVa.
I am a solid Webb supporter.
That said, (and knowing that no one can change a heart and mind dedicated to voting for Allen on the basis of his pro-life position), I am extremely frustrated by the cited reference to Arlington.
When I deliver food for clients of Annandale Christian Community for Action and Fairfax FISH (For Immediate Sympathetic Help), I don't see "wide, tree-lined streets of an affluent liberal conclave." That is a paraphrase, but check the original.
Has anyone here been to the Culmore neighborhood lately?
Even Washington-based journalists are guilty of stereotyping Fairfax/Arlington counties. Often this is done in the most snide way, as if Volvos and lattes were the be-all-end-all of life in the DC 'burbs. Red America seems to buy this, and I'm furious that such divisive swill is used to curtail any true conversation about Virginia's future direction.>

Brad
November 2, 2006 7:48 PM

I can understand why conservatives might be disgusted with the very leftist tactics Allen has resorted to, but I can't understand how pro-Webb conservatives can look past his opposition to Justice Alito. If one really supports the Second Amendment, then they should favor judges who are not likely to gut it of any meaning should a definitive case on it reach the Supreme Court. Webb says a Virginia marriage amendment is not necessary, yet he opposes the type of judge who is unlikely to make that statement false by voting for a Sup Court imposition of gay marriage/civil unions on the entire nation. The only areas where Webb truly may be the conservative in the race is on women in combat (I don't think either candidate has been asked about their views on the issue today, as it relates to front-line ground combat units), and on racial preferences. Allen's lowest moment in the one debate that I watched was when he completely brushed aside a question about aff action/rac preferences, while Webb at least said that if it is to be based on 'diversity' grounds, then disadvantaged whites should also be included.>

s.a.farris
November 2, 2006 9:20 PM

What "very leftist " tactics has Allen "resorted" to? And how do they differ from right-wing 'tactics', if you'll admit that such a heretical concept exists?
I'm very interested in your answer. I doubt it will include his singling out a darker-skinned Virginian with the "welcome to America" remark.>

Orthros
November 2, 2006 9:44 PM

Webb is a Death Eater, so that's enough that I'll never vote for him.>

steve
November 2, 2006 10:13 PM
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-Liberty4All

Thats good irony.>

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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