Just today there appeared two new stories of sexual abuse of minors by teachers, one male and one female (the female is married). The following statistics appeared on another blogsite: In a single year, 1998, the Dept of Justice listed 103,600 cases of sexual abuse in public schools. From 1950 to 2003, there were 10,667 reported cases of clergy sexual abuse. That's 10 times as much in one year as there were in 53 years in the Church. Yet nobody is passing laws singling out teachers for special exemption from ordinary laws. Only Catholics. It makes no more sense to demonize the entire Catholic hierarchy for the abuses committed by some than it would to condemn all teachers. Let the guilty, and only the guilty, be punished.
Biblebeliever
March 1, 2007 4:29 PM
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Speaking of the teachers and sex abuse: So, men pledged to uphold God's standards, are to be judged ONLY by the world's standards? Isn't that a sad, sad commentary on the state of the RCC today? We are NOT WORSE than someone else?
Christine
March 1, 2007 4:56 PM
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Nope. Merely proves the reality of original sin. By the way, I've always contended that married men who abuse their children are the most heinous of all. They are the first image of God for their children, not priests or ministers.
Luci
March 1, 2007 8:27 PM
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If any of you are still reading this thread and are much more knowledgeable than I could explain the following, I'd appreciate it. I found this online: To: The Most Reverend Edward Cardinal Egan, Archbishop of New York Your Excellency, A half-century of brutal religious and cultural oppression has scattered people of Lithuanian origin around the world. Many found their way to New York City, and even today continue to do so. Since 1905 they, along with countless other faithful, have been welcomed, comforted and inspired by Our Lady of Vilnius parish, so intimately tied to the most beloved of shrines in their homeland. This is the only Lithuanian parish in all of Manhattan. The beautiful church at 570 Broome Street, while currently not being used because of repairable roof damage, is overall in very good condition. We respectfully request that you reconsider your decision to close this vibrant, living parish; reestablish communication with its representatives; and release the funds for the needed building repairs from the parish insurance claim which has already been paid to the Archdiocese. I don't understand the last line-- is it legal to use insurance money for something other than it was intended? TIA...
Simon
March 1, 2007 8:41 PM
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Pauli (and Simon above) both remember to recite the mantra: It's the anti-Catholic media's fault. Why do they keep picking on us? Wrong, Joel. I didn't (and don't) fault the media on this at all. Neither am I any sort of apologist for the U.S. Catholic hierarchy's attrocious handling of these cases. My point was that your claim that the congregational structure of Protestant churches prevents abuse and coverups doesn't hold water. What that kind of structure does prevent is the denomination becoming a fat target for plaintiffs lawyers. If a Protestant pastor does something unlawful or actionable, only the assets of his own local church are potentially at stake. Even if it's a mega-church, that's small potatoes for a plaintiffs lawyer. But consolidate hundreds of local churches into one big legal entity and you've got the potential makings of a trial lawyers retirement fund. That's what's going on with the Catholic Church. Whether abuse or coverups are prevalent within Protestant denominations is something I have no clue about. What I do know is that you'd hear about more of it if there were an entire sub-industry of lawyers dedicated to pursuing contingent fee lawsuits against those denominations. But the financial incentives simply aren't there to generate that kind of interest among plaintiff's lawyers. And few lawsuits means little basis for news coverage.
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Just today there appeared two new stories of sexual abuse of minors by teachers, one male and one female (the female is married). The following statistics appeared on another blogsite: In a single year, 1998, the Dept of Justice listed 103,600 cases of sexual abuse in public schools. From 1950 to 2003, there were 10,667 reported cases of clergy sexual abuse. That's 10 times as much in one year as there were in 53 years in the Church. Yet nobody is passing laws singling out teachers for special exemption from ordinary laws. Only Catholics. It makes no more sense to demonize the entire Catholic hierarchy for the abuses committed by some than it would to condemn all teachers. Let the guilty, and only the guilty, be punished.
Speaking of the teachers and sex abuse: So, men pledged to uphold God's standards, are to be judged ONLY by the world's standards? Isn't that a sad, sad commentary on the state of the RCC today? We are NOT WORSE than someone else?
Nope. Merely proves the reality of original sin. By the way, I've always contended that married men who abuse their children are the most heinous of all. They are the first image of God for their children, not priests or ministers.
If any of you are still reading this thread and are much more knowledgeable than I could explain the following, I'd appreciate it. I found this online: To: The Most Reverend Edward Cardinal Egan, Archbishop of New York Your Excellency, A half-century of brutal religious and cultural oppression has scattered people of Lithuanian origin around the world. Many found their way to New York City, and even today continue to do so. Since 1905 they, along with countless other faithful, have been welcomed, comforted and inspired by Our Lady of Vilnius parish, so intimately tied to the most beloved of shrines in their homeland. This is the only Lithuanian parish in all of Manhattan. The beautiful church at 570 Broome Street, while currently not being used because of repairable roof damage, is overall in very good condition. We respectfully request that you reconsider your decision to close this vibrant, living parish; reestablish communication with its representatives; and release the funds for the needed building repairs from the parish insurance claim which has already been paid to the Archdiocese. I don't understand the last line-- is it legal to use insurance money for something other than it was intended? TIA...
Pauli (and Simon above) both remember to recite the mantra: It's the anti-Catholic media's fault. Why do they keep picking on us? Wrong, Joel. I didn't (and don't) fault the media on this at all. Neither am I any sort of apologist for the U.S. Catholic hierarchy's attrocious handling of these cases. My point was that your claim that the congregational structure of Protestant churches prevents abuse and coverups doesn't hold water. What that kind of structure does prevent is the denomination becoming a fat target for plaintiffs lawyers. If a Protestant pastor does something unlawful or actionable, only the assets of his own local church are potentially at stake. Even if it's a mega-church, that's small potatoes for a plaintiffs lawyer. But consolidate hundreds of local churches into one big legal entity and you've got the potential makings of a trial lawyers retirement fund. That's what's going on with the Catholic Church. Whether abuse or coverups are prevalent within Protestant denominations is something I have no clue about. What I do know is that you'd hear about more of it if there were an entire sub-industry of lawyers dedicated to pursuing contingent fee lawsuits against those denominations. But the financial incentives simply aren't there to generate that kind of interest among plaintiff's lawyers. And few lawsuits means little basis for news coverage.
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