That Marcotte minx!

She was tried by a court of Taste and Decency and found wanting.

I'm glad she quit-- now Rod can give up his bizarre obsession with her. (At least, we hope!) And seriously, does this "connection" between Amanda Marcotte and Myrna Minkoff seem like more than a bit of a stretch? Except maybe in the windmills of Rod's mind...

My wife and I went to see "Children of Men" yesterday. We wound up walking out 70 or 80 minutes into it due to the unrelenting violence. She just couldn't bear to watch any more and I was not inclined to stay either. This Marcotte person describes it as a great movie, moving and beautifully filmed. Can't say I'm surprised, it was a vision of hell on earth. Thank God this person is a little bit farther away from power.

Btw, I'd been wishing for Marcotte to meet the real world several months ago, when I stumbled on her vile blog, and realized she was living in her bubble zone of sycophants. I really wonder if she actually knew that she wasn't just out of touch with those wacky Fundamentalist Christian Republicans, but could be a liability to a Democrat candidate.

GOD BLESS you for your obsession! You SO rock!

Oh, shucks. An opportunity missed for the RR to perhaps stage some formal protest, organize some boycotts, burn a few Danish flags, effigies of the Clintons and copies of the 1st Amendment. Maybe next time.

*sigh* Oh well, here's hoping Rod gets around to the next Weapon of Mass Distraction soon :)

.......money phrase-making of the day: "living in the bubble zone of her sycophants." *Almost* made me cough up the first rewarding sip of today's coffee. Kudos to Eileen R.! Bill Donohue got it. Rod got it. John Edwards didn't.......initially. *Then* he got it. We move on. What wine do we serve with such a richly deserved "resignation"?

The truly striking thing is that what was meant as a caricature in Toole's book is now reality in many places.

The sad thing about this post-- which everyone except maybe gtb and GIITV has missed-- is that Rod is clearly relishing being "offended" here. This indicates that this story is no more than fluff, even to Rod, no matter what long-winded, self-indulgent retort he would write (or has written) to the contrary. I said it before and I'll say it again: y'all are CHOOSING to be insulted here. Get over yourselves.

B-Dog We get it. Believe me. We get it. Tempests in teapots are Rod's stock-in-trade. Without them, he'd have no readership at all.

"I'm glad she quit-- now Rod can give up his bizarre obsession with her. (At least, we hope!)" Hey B-Dog, you should be in movies! Well, at least in a Freudian sense. You could be the projectionist.

Two things: first, Marcotte's comments were far, far worse than quoted here. The newspaper would be in big trouble if they printed the un-family-friendly garbage that Marcotte had written. Second, I found "Children of Men" to be one of the most profoundly pro-life movies ever made. Yes, the movie may have stripped much of the Christian symbolism, but it did not completely eradicate it; and I found a most strong Christian subtext despite the filmmaker's intentions. As to the film being too violent--it really is one long chase movie filmed in documentary style--it's not for everyone. But for those who could stomach violence, it demonstrates most powerfully the agony in a world without hope, which makes grace shine all the more. Do people really believe the agony in a "Left Behind" film? (What was it, twelve people looting an alley?)

The Orwellian irony is so thick here. Some slag of a harpy uses pornographic language to say she wishes that God Incarnate had been aborted (among other equally pornographic and hateful things), yet Rod is the bad guy for pointing out the hilarious double standard on the part of the Drive-By-Media and fellow travellers. Said travellers themselves harpies for the cause of uber-sensitivity towards others [note well: "others" evidently does NOT include whites, men, or Christians, ESPECIALLY Catholics]. Does the Sensitivity Industry come out against Pornographic Deicidal Hate Speech Fantasies? Oh no. Don't be silly. Rather it's blame the "victim" time. People like Rod are lambasted for having the temerity to notice and mention the Hateful Left. And that's really what it's about for the Left. So many have made a career by portraying the Right as the home of hate, they've missed the plank in their own eye. They've come to believe their own PR. Remember how the Left once spoke of Bush, the GOP, and conservatives in general as the Taliban Right? I think one of the things the Bush did that really caused the Left to hate him was defeating the real Taliban, after the Left under Bubba Clinton did nothing. Yep, Bush deprived the Left of one of their easiest mindless slurs. Oh the humanity.

watsy... I read one of Guaron's interviews where he stated as such. From filmmakermagazine.com: "The P.D. James book is almost like a look at Christianity, and that wasn t my interest. I didn t want to shy away from the spiritual archetypes but I wasn t interested in dealing with Dogma." - Cuaron. Nick

Does the Sensitivity Industry come out against Pornographic Deicidal Hate Speech Fantasies? Oh no. Don't be silly. Rather it's blame the "victim" time. People like Rod are lambasted for having the temerity to notice and mention the Hateful Left. Wow - just wow. This is the same kind of nonsense that we went through a few months ago when Rod was all but calling for loyalty oaths from moderate Muslims. The "charge" being - why don't moderate Muslims come out "against terrorism?" THe answer is simple - because it has nothing to do with them - they are not the source of the terrorism, and it is hubris to demand they speak the loyalty oath to prove it to hyper-sensistive (in this case, hyper-xenophobic) caucasians who can't tell the difference between the "good Muslims" and the "bad Muslims." I know it's difficult for many on the right to understand the concept of parallels, but this is largely the same issue. The "Sensitivity Industry" hasn't "come out against Pornographic Deicidal Hate Speech Fantasies" because - and I'm serious here - who actually takes those Pornographic Deicidal Hate Speech Fantasies seriously enough that they even need decrying? It's part of that whole "if you ain't with us you're agin' us" attitude that makes the right so very very tiresome. You're not hearing more about this from the left becuase it's YOUR bugaboo, not ours. When someone takes an action that actually has a chance of being truly harmful, I'm usre it will be decried by everyone six ways from Sunday. Meanwhile, people like you are CHOOSING to make this an issue.

Great point, that you did make, GIITV. Thanks. And this wasn't even a cartoon.

Aaron, How can you stand to be so precious?

I thought that Children of Men was beautiful and poignant. The beauty and grace of the child in a childless world shone so much brighter with the contrast of the violence and dispair of the rest of the film. There were a few scenes that I couldn't stomach, but I was surprised at how well I handled the violence. I am a very sensitive viewer. " Sign M. Minkoff's Petitiion Which Aggressively Demands More and Better Sex for All and a Crash Program for Minorities! (the petition will be mailed to Washington.) Sign now and save America from sexual ignorance, chastity, and fear. Are you committed enough to help in this bold and crucial movement?" Maybe I don't get it. Is this a joke? The big difference between true religious conservatives and liberals is how we believe "good sex" happens. For the religious conservative chastity, monogamy and fidelity are the basic ingredients for good sex.

B-Dog, You're projecting again.

Above post was an answer to David's question.

Tovart: The problem isn't that Marcotte is a hate-spewing feminist. We're used to that. It's that she's a tantrum throwing profanity spewing child who willingly ignores the actual structure of reality. And overeducated 20-something sheeple actually listen to her.

Watsy, I don't know the details of Margaret Sanger's personal view of eugenics, but there's no question whatsoever that the early movement on the left to propogate birth control had a very strongly eugenic under-current. Many if not most progressives at the turn of the century advocated state-administered eugenics initiatives to "guide" human "evolution" through selective breeding, which (surprise, surprise) generally meant a policy against members of the working class and of various "backward" ethnic groups having children. This kind of thinking was every bit as common on the left a hundred years ago as support for abortion is today. Which is not at all to equate the left's support for abortion today with eugenics, just to place it in historical context.

Somehow, I doubt the individuals who (apparently) sent Marcotte those filthy e-mails are true allies of the Catholic League.

Bob, This is one of her original writings. Remember that she wrote this in the 1920's before many of the illnesses which she described had any treatment. http://womenshistory.about.com/library/etext/bl_sanger_1924.htm

Maybe I don't get it. Is this a joke? Yes, it's from the comic novel "A Confederacy of Dunces," otherwise known in these parts as "The Fifth Gospel." Myrna Minkoff is a fictional character. Amanda Marcotte, her latter-day doppelganger, is not.

I think that comparison was a bit of a stretch there, Rod.

Agreed. Yes, she showed a definite episode of lack of finesse,discretion, sensitivity or IOW "political correctness." and Fine, Derek, by all means have at her, if you wish. If you feel insulted, say so.

She apologized and quit. Now, what do you all want? Just curious.

Derek, diet Coke is not very good for you. BTW, I consider bigots politically incorrect, as well as bigoted. Darn semantics.

It's hard to believe that Christian men and women would respond to her with such dirty and ugly hate mail. I don't know what church they belong to or what Bible they're reading, but I can see what's feeding into her "bigotry." Christians need to remember that she doesn't go to a church, so she's not seeing the kind Christians out there who don't hate ugly women and don't think that feminists could use one up the arse.

After reading watsy's post, I figured I'd go see for myself what she was talking about, and I did. I really think everyone who hasn't already should read some of Marcotte's mail, here: http://punk.punkasshost.com/suspended.page/ and ask yourselves if you don't feel even a tiny twinge of disquiet at finding yourself in the same army with these guys. I can think of one man who wouldn't be there under any circumstances. And now for something completely different. . . . Now hear this--My God is omnipresent and omniscient, but for Her own inscrutable reasons, She has chosen to appear in the form of Mother, Daughter, and Divine (female) Spirit. She created Woman first, in her own likeness and image, and men were brought forth later to serve as their helpmeets. She is glorified by sexual pleasure, exchanged by mutual agreement between whatever genders in whatever numbers, and She sanctifies marriages--the more partners involved, the more virtuous the marriage! She has granted unto women, Her daughters, the sole privilege of making all decisions about their own fertility. (And I have a story with a talking snake in it to prove it is so.) As women have been granted the divine power of pregnancy, only they can decide when and how they will exercise it. Any infringement on this divine privilege is an offense against God and Her servants. Attempts to deny contraception or to take choice out of a woman s hands are inherently evil and destructive. Vile slurs against the sacred acts of pleasure between man and man, or woman and woman, are offensive to both me and my God, and will incur the divine wrath. This is my faith, and if you make sarcastic fun of it, or call me names or incite ridicule of me, then you are a bigot who should be cursed, mocked, and fired from your job. Now do I get the same respect and scrupulous moderation in discourse that you demand for your own beliefs?

The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst 4 they said to him, Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say? This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her. And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. Jesus stood up and said to her, Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you? She said, No one, Lord. And Jesus said, Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.

So, when does Donohue apologize to the Jews, the Gays, "gooks" and women everywhere for the nasty remarks he's made about all of them? I wouldn't defend Marcotte's over the top comments, but Donohue's a huge hypocrite.

Ah, Crunchy Conjob and Bill Donahue...now THAT, using in Vegas parlance, is a pair that can't beat ace high!

Bill Donohue is a lying slime; your praise for him Rod suggests that the 10 Commandments aren't that big a deal for you. Tell me Rod, do you agree with Bill when it comes to the afterlife for Jews and other rejecters of Christ? Excellent point. Hey Rod, sleep with dogs, wake up with fleas, you know! You SURE you want to hitch your wagon to the venom-spitting, anti-semitic William Donahue?

Not as long as we have religious freedom guaranteed by our constitution. That means, that those basic statements of that doctrine are not mandatory either. You see?

Fascinating piece on how Donahue's little organization filed what appears to be false information on its 2005 IRS filings...see for yourself...again, fascinating: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-browner-hamlin/more-potential-catholic-l_b_41166.html

Pacific231, did Rod (or Donahue) make those death threats? Or are you just ascribing guilt by association?

Hey Tinfoil Hat Crowd (and by Tinfoil Hat Crowd I refer specifically to Pacific231, tovart, salvage, 360, and A Hermit), To the extent any of you have time to come down off the ramparts and take a respite from your lookout for the armies of religionists coming to bathe you and confiscate your porn, sex toys, and profane T-shirts, you might want to read Donohue's press release. It looks to me like he just quoted the dirty girls. I note, however, in your attacks on Donohue, you do not quote him. I would be interested in knowing what is particularly ignoble about quoting the vile and vulgar utterances of nasty womyn (other than the obvious problem of giving greater publicity to the fevered rants of obviously disturbed minds)? As for the insane responses the dirty girls have received, the language and perverse imagination of the responders suggest they come from your side of the aisle. Perhaps they thought they were engaged in pillow talk with the angry man-eaters. But even if they're not your fellow travellers I can assure you they aren't mine. Mental illness, while an important indicator of irreligious or leftist proclivities, is not exclusive to those quarters.

Pacific231: You left out laughing stock 3 out of 3 from Louden is a Fool: Mental illness [partisan garbage snipped] is not exclusive to [the left] No duh, O arrogant but foolish one! Tell us something that is not obvious from watching 5 minutes of the evening news! Ted Haggard, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Don Wildmon, Dinesh D'Sousa, Bill Donahue, Wayne Grudem, the "Intelligent Design" crowd, Bernard Law and a bevy of cardinals still in denail over the Catholic child abuse scandal, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin... Not exactly a Who's Who of good mental health!!

Wow. So people outraged by the anti-semitism of a William Donahue, the hypocracy and profound masquerade of a Ted Haggard, or the criminal shuffling of Catholic pediphile priests from parish to parish, etc. etc. are "Jesus haters" huh? A study of Scripture would inform you that those who look the other way and keep up the masquerade that such evil does not exist are in fact disobeying Jesus. Come on, LiaF. That log in your (and CC's) eye is most unbecoming.

What's Donahue said in your quotation that's incorrect? Hollywood is run by secular Jews, etc, etc. Secular Jews are human, they have good intentions, and they try to convert people to their worldview, just as Christians do. I don't quite see why you're wetting your knickers over it. Before you retort in the obvious way, I'd better point out that I am Jewish by birth and upbringing - brought up by my parents, secular Communist Jews, whom I greatly respect and love - who knows that milieu inside out. I became a Catholic some years ago, and have mixed at times with traditional Catholics, some of whom are truly anti-Semitic. William Donohue seems to me to be merely accurate.

Marcotte works for a public institution supported by tax dollars. Do they know the vile and hateful spew she expels? Why is she still working there?????? Here is a webpage with a picture of her about halfway down. http://tinyurl.com/28r53r