Crunchy Con

Letter from the front

Saturday April 28, 2007

A soldier-reader in either Iraq or Afghanistan who posts here under the name "AnotherBeliever" put this on the most recent war thread here last night. Well worth reading:We soldiers who serve in Iraq and Afghanistan, even those of us who...
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SteveM
April 28, 2007 5:17 PM
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The end game the guy is suggesting is another Egypt. Which in the great, ambiguous scheme of geo-politics would not be such a bad thing. Only it's something that could have been put in place in 2003. So after hundreds of billions and thousands of lives, there ain't no omelet of a new democratic dawn in the Middle East, only the broken eggs of carnage and corpses. And the cook is still the clueless idiot spilling someone else's treasure...

Peter Paik
April 28, 2007 5:23 PM
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Thank you so much for posting this. For the sake of our men and women in uniform -- as well as for the sake of our future, it's time to negotiate the American way of life. It is unfair and unjust for a small number of Americans to bear the disproportionate burden of risking their lives in these ongoing conflicts, while the rest of us go on leading our normal lives. In a way, it is as though our government had chosen to do everything, including going to war, to avoid having to deal with the issue of developing a sustainable way of life, one that does not rely so heavily upon cheap oil. Thus, the great majority are allowed to live without a sense of responsibility, while the weight of maintaining this arrangement falls heavily upon the few. It's clear that in the coming years we will have to "sow up the nation's wounds" once again.

Mandrake Xerxes Beersmogg
April 28, 2007 6:17 PM
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SteveM: " the cook is still the clueless idiot spilling someone else's treasure " Wow. I wish the "cook" was as articulate and perspicacious as this soldier. I wonder what a world of difference it would have made.

Gretchen
April 28, 2007 8:21 PM
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I appreciate the soldier's words, for he spares no one, but like the general he so admires, 'tells it like it is.' This is an indictment on the Democrats in Congress as much as Bush...and they all richly deserve the condemnation.

AnotherBeliever
April 28, 2007 8:41 PM
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What is perspicacious? I have to go look that up. I am an Arabic language specialist, so picked up some regional knowledge on the way.
I am not currently in Iraq (and I am also not a guy), but I will be going back for my second deployment soon. Last time I just sat on the F.O.B. doing my job, we'll see how this time goes. We're short a few guys and I won't have that luxury this go 'round. Thank you for your kind words.

armchair pessimist
April 29, 2007 12:18 AM
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I'd say that the mid east oil wells make this a damned good existential war. We can't live without the stuff. And our many enemies know it. No use pointing fingers. We're all to blame.
So, Another Believer and the others in uniform, better men and women than any of us, will have to go protect our access to it.

SteveM
April 29, 2007 1:18 AM
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I'm sorry armchair pessimist. Service members are good people, but not "better than any of us." As if we d be a better country if we had an army of 150 million imbued with marshal culture. It's that kind of thinking that the Bush administration embraced that resulted in an implied policy of "Military Exceptionalism". I.e., all that is good and true and noble has a military pedigree. All geo-political problems can be addressed with a military solution. So the discounting of foreign allies, non-military agencies, non-governmental organizations. Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, et al marginalized all of them. Bush speaks almost exclusively at military bases or in front of veterans organizations. He s a coward hiding behind that military cloak. Why doesn t he go to Manhattan or Chicago or Boston or Madison or Seattle and engage those citizens? At least I think they are citizens because they pay taxes and vote. But they don t count as such in Bush s - Rove s eyes because they re not military and have no standing. And the Democrats in Congress had no standing, no need to know prior to the November elections. And the sad thing is that it s the people in the military who have to pay the price for Bush s distorted understanding of the limitations of what they do for a living. This administration stinks. I just can t wait till it s over

AnotherBeliever
April 29, 2007 5:10 AM
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I signed on for five, and will serve six. I know a few who signed on for five and will end up serving seven. And we are all subject to recall even after our tours are over, until eight years after our original date of enlistment. Thing about it is, when most of me and my guys signed up (before the war started) being called up or kept in past your end of service was unheard of. It had been done once during the Gulf War for about six months, and before that, it had happened to a few categories of personnel in Vietnam. Stop-loss and the extensive use of the Individual Ready Reserve is what we are doing INSTEAD of the draft.
If you think it unfair that so few of us are doing so much, then enlist or encourage people of age to do so. We could stand a few extra bodies. ;)
Why do so many people admire those in uniform? It's not because we are killers (some of us are, indirectly ALL of us are.) That's hardly admirable. It's because we sacrifice our independence and freedom to a cause greater than us, a cause that might well demand our lives. That is what is admirable. And our culture recognizes that even as it worships at the false altar of individualism.
It's a shame so few in our society still recognize that Christ's cause demands the same cost. But unlike service in the military, sacrificing your independence and autonomy to the Body of Christ, learning self-discipline and unity and common purpose, will help establish the eternal Kingdom of Heaven right here on Earth.

Rawlins Gilliland
April 29, 2007 5:59 AM
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Well, in all wars through Vietnam, we had a draft and everyone was called up inevitably and equally. Unless you were defered after being (based on exceptional and rare scholarship) rewarded as a Rhodes scholar to Oxford as was Bill Clinton. Or, failing intellectual excellence,(or even good grades) had "Daddy-OH!" connections like our present President.
It helps when everyone is asked to put their money where their mouth is. It makes sacrifice real, and makes being vested in the American dream more likely/possible/probable. I believe a very real part of the problem is that we have become a country where we HOPE enough people 'volunteer' to become involved and enlist in the nation's defense. After Vietnam, this became the way because my generation was duped. We knew it then and lived long enough to see the Secretary of Defense McNamara (the Rumsfeld/Cheney of his day)and the icon general Westmoreland admit it. Nearly 60,000 dead American soldiers later. We're still paying the price in countless ways. Small wonder the country was so disengaged regarding Iraq for so long...probably 4 years..., when the war was no more part of people's daily 'reality' than Gwenyth Paltrow's children. In fact, this war touches relatively few Americans still, despite their breast-beating piety. And that is one reason I read AnotherBeliever with interest and affection. I too believe Petraeus is a stunning model. But the debate is not about this man, but rather his Commander-in-Chief and his nepotisical team of 'I've known you for years and therefore I know your heart and I'm loyal and trust you' crony advisors.

cs
April 29, 2007 7:28 AM
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"The administration made Iraq a Republican war from the outset..." Funny, I seem to recall Hillary & John Edwards (among other Dems) authorizing the use of force? It has BECOME a Republican war by necessity, in my opinion, as many Democrats have shifted from supporting to opposing the war. Along with a few Republicans, I might add. And, of course, with some valid reasons. It's kind of disingenous to imply that it was initially only supported by Republicans.

SteveM
April 29, 2007 10:40 AM
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Re: cs comments It became a Republican war when Bush (Rove) decided (early on) to marginalize the Democrats (both politicians and voters) as stakeholders when planning the strategy for its evolving execution. I thought it was pathetic when Bush invited the Democratic congressional leadership to lunch at the White House in November after they had won majorities. He should have been doing that over the last four years! The entire complement of congressional leadership should have been invited to the White House at least once a month for information sharing about how the war was being conducted. Do you think there would be the same level of antipathy by the Democratic leadership towards Bush if he had done that? If he had co-opted them as political partners into the one great thing that should have unified all Americans?
Not that the Republican congressional leaders should not also help shape political strategy, that would be expected. But the Republican congress abdicated its oversight responsibility totally when it was in control. And by marginalizing the Democrats, Bush lost whatever unity that was created at the start of the effort. And about those other Blue State people (citizens, voters, taxpayers) in Manhattan, Madison, Seattle, etc., the Republican machine not only marginalized them, it demonized them. They were less American and less entitled to voice their opinion. When America is at war, it s the political leadership s obligation to recruit all Americans into a national struggle through dialog and persuasion. Bush cannot/did not do that. He never reached out. Instead, he spoke to only one half of America at VFW conventions and ignored the other. They became the other , the enemy. Administration hacks like Cheney reinforced that division by going on TV and calling half of America traitors. That s what made it a Republican war. I have no illusions about the Democrats. Their capacity to be stupid and feckless also has no bounds. So this is the political landscape that we live in. And that s why this war is messed up.

Gretchen
April 29, 2007 1:53 PM
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Come on, SteveM. Political parties exist in order to be in power and will do anything to get there and stay there. This goes for any of 'em. Bush has worked with Dems in some ways that me cringe, and it never changed a thing. His mistake. He could've kissed their feet and the Dems would still have kicked him in the face. That is politics.

David Gray
April 29, 2007 2:16 PM
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>And I also realize the Bush has politicized the military.
This kind of comment reveals a mind either disfunctional or not at work due to excess bile.

armchair pessimist
April 29, 2007 2:59 PM
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I repeat: We can't leave on account of the oil. You don't like fighting in Iraq? OK. Well, fight in Saudi A. Or where the other oil wells are. But your comfy crunchy and non crunchy lives depend on keeping the oil coming, a fact that every jihadi with the IQ of a bean knows.
You think if troops went wee-wee-wee all the way home, it'll be over? Think again.

harvey lacey
April 29, 2007 3:05 PM
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First thing, thank you anotherbeliever for your service. Let me toss a wrench into the gears of this conversation. Leaving aside my pleasure at engaging conservatives and obvious partisanship for a minute let's think about business management of today and how it relates to this war. I see no difference from Rumsfeld-Cheney-Bush's attitude of first we go to war and then we'll fix what's broken as it comes up attitude to that of AT&T or SBC if you will and their approach to fiber optic service to the home. In both cases we have the attitude of us being smart enough because we came up with the idea to handle anything that comes up. It's about the position that management is about people management and not about idea management. Management can do anything because they can find the right people for the job and those people will find the technology to make it happen. It's a recipe for disaster. It doesn't matter if it's Vonage or it's the Defense Department. It doesn't matter if it's Kenneth Lay or Karl Rove, there's more to it than people manipulation.

reluctant penitent
April 29, 2007 9:30 PM
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Thank you AnotherBeliever, for your courage and your wisdom.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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