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Max Goss on the Kirk conference

Tuesday April 17, 2007

Max Goss at Right Reason has some kind things to say about Your Working Boy's presentation at the Kirk conference, and some illuminating commentary about Prof. Dermot Quinn's remarks on Kirk and religion (Prof. Quinn seemed to be saying that Kirk reduced the practice and pursuit of religious faith to utility -- because it makes one happy -- but Max suggests a way out of that trap).

I'm cleaning up my Kirk conference speech (taking out all the profanity, the Cajun French, and the long disquisition on the Gnostic meaning of early Michael Stipe lyrics, which I've sent on to Reihan) and will be sending it to Max to reprint on Right Reason. Max came up to introduce himself after my speech, and I recalled his name attached to a critical review of "Crunchy Cons." Indeed Max had, on Right Reason, where he said he didn't think "Crunchy Cons" did traditionalist conservatism justice. But he liked the speech a lot more. So, good!

Gotta say that next time there's an ISI conference in your neck of the woods, by all means go. This was my first one, and it was a real treat. It was a pleasure meeting writers whose work I've admired from afar (e.g., Allan Carlson, George Nash, Mark T. Mitchell) and making new friends like Seton Hall's Dermot Quinn, Hillsdale's Nathan Schlueter, and all the scary-smart college students who were there.
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clark
April 18, 2007 12:20 AM
http://clarkstooksbury.blogspot.com

I'll second that. Carlson (a busy man) was at the one I went to in Charlottesville last month; along with Bill Kauffman, Jesse Walker, Caleb Stegall, Daniel McCarthy and many more.

mike d
April 18, 2007 5:16 PM
nelui-andrann.blogspot.com

You did a nice job at the Kirk conference and it was a pleasure to have the chance meet you (I was one of the geeks who had you sign a book). I also got a chance to meet Max and he and his wife are nice folks. I thought your question to Ted McAlister about evangelical churches and their lack of aesthetic appeal but the acknowledgment that they are in fact full while the cathedrals of Europe are empty was a very good one. But his answer that children will eat macaroni and cheese even though there are better meals to be had was as wrong as it is condescending. His talk was excellent, and funny, but he didn t answer with the kind of thoughtfulness that I thought that your question deserved. Briefly: He was surely right to say that with respect to aesthetics (and more) most Evangelical churches leave much, much to be desired. But aesthetics is not the beginning and end of theology and church life. They may be macaroni and cheese in terms of art but they aren t, as you mentioned, with respect to lives being changed and personal devotion. I long, really long, for the beauty and tradition of the orthodox, traditional churches but have its wrong to say that Evangelical churches are just church light for dummies; they have some things right as well as having shortcomings.

AmericanPapist
April 21, 2007 12:54 AM
http://blog.americanpapist.com/

It was nice meeting you Rod and excellent hearing your talk. You'll have an email from me shortly! - Thomas

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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