Signs of the times

Well, technically they don't have a separation of church and state like we do, but religious freedom is the law in the UK, isn't it? If so, the Wahhabists are legally bound to respect it. If I didn't trust the government to enforce it, I would not only emigrate. I would fear for the future.

Emigrate ... to France.

It's interesting to think about. How would this kind of situation turn out? It could do an interesting swap---maybe the Arab Muslims will become not only the majority but, with stable family structures, the "upper class." Or will Wahhabism stand in the way of that? If it weren't such a serious question, it would be a fun sociological experiment. God bless.

The poor white Brits, after centuries of Christian domination, have reverted back to paganism--but without the tribal cohesion. No more clan leaders to keep the tribe in order, just the nihilism of post-modernism. Not a good defense against sharia law.

You give up the God of Abraham, Isaac AND JACOB!!!!! And in comes the god of Mohammad and the spirit of drunkeness. Yeah, that's about right. It's going to be a good street fight. That much I know.

I must say, I do love the construction of that sentence: You give up the God of Abraham, Isaac AND JACOB!!!!! It's like an advertisement for God.
"He's not just the God of Abraham and Isaac... he's the God of Abraham, Isaac AND JACOB!!!!! New and Improved!!!!! Now with more Holiness than the other leading Deities!!!!"



See what happens when I have 2 glasses of wine with dinner instead of 1? Donny gets funny. *sigh*

Rod, What was said of Ishmael? Ignorance is not a virtue Rod. There were Arabs before during and after Ishmael was born to Abraham and after he and Hagar were forced out. Allah and his wife Allat were Arabic gods before Muslims started their holy war to take over earth. Jacob became "Israel." Get it? Mohammad had a visit from an Angel that got a lot of Biblical history wrong too. And we now have what we have. people lumping Muslims in with people that do not alter the Bible.

I live in London and am Anglo-saxon born and bred and to be honest when I read stuff like this and watch the crap the BBC pours out or see pissed up yobs battling in the streets of genteel Ealing on a Friday night I kinda want to up sticks and move back to my wifes home country of Peru.

Wow. That's all that can be said. "Wow!" Which didn't stop you from saying more, all of it risible.

wildwest, The Mecca residents were worshipping many gods, two of them Allah and Allat. It is not "pre" historic. Arabs are part of the Islamic empire. It looks as if the war and violence to solve things fits nicely into the kind of history we see of the Middle East. It should be noted that people are free to not be Christian. It is illegal in Islamic countries to give up Islam. England is slated to be an Islamic nation soon. Muslims multiply by breeding. Soon the numbers will be there for Islam to dominate in a free society, just to take it away like it has in every other Islamic nation on earth todsay. Let's hope the pagans in England can survive the Islamitization of Europe by Muslims. The Meccans were not so lucky. NOW, the Holocuast is some how insulting to Muslims???? This is far more than just a double standard.
The Anti-Christ should be soon on the horizon.
And if Islam is anything, it is Anti-Christ. Christ Jesus IS the God of Abraham, Isaac AND JACOB!!!!

And we now have what we have. people lumping Muslims in with people that do not alter the Bible. People that do not alter the bible has been a lonely category for 2000 years.

Which didn't stop you from saying more, all of it risible. Rod Dreher Rod, I was laughing AT you and not WITH you. There's a difference you know.

Rod, I was laughing AT you and not WITH you. There's a difference you know. harvey lacey Of all meat we eat I've found crow the most difficult to swallow. I can chew it until I feel it's powder and it's still almost impossible to get down the gullet not to mention the aftertaste, what an after taste. I apologize to Rod and the readers for the above comment. I was out of line and it was wrong. It would be an immature act for a twenty something and is indefensible for an almost fifty nine year old.

Gretchen, the Brits you refer to are being abandoned by their faith, not vice versa. The British pagans I keep contact with all echo the same concerns as the Muslims, and lack only numbers and money in the overall comparison. Perhaps the positive values of the pagans will rescue some of the abandoned British Christians from further dissolution. I'm quite certain your allusion to the opposite will in fact not happen.

"The white Brits are increasingly a dissolute mob of drunkards who wallow in bastardy." "Increasingly"? Not to sound crass, but "a dissolute mob of drunkards who wallow in bastardy" is a marvelous summation of London crowd scenes from Shakespeare's time to the present.

This isn't anything new. This is how Brits behaved until Victorian morality set about improving them. About 25% of Women in London were prostitutes at the time of Wilberforce's campaign against Slavery. What to do? Wishy-washy post-Modernism rejects Western values of right and wrong, freedom, individualism in favor of shame at being Western. Everyone is better than Europeans. No wonder Europeans including Brits are awash with drunken-ness and are ashamed of their own country. Britain is irretreviably lost to Islam. The Islam btw of Osama. About 42% of Brit Muslims want to live under Sharia and soon they will get it. They are the force of the future and the future of Britain will look much like Modern Day Egypt. So, I would emigrate to America. Like most young Dutch and German people with brains are doing. There is no future in Eurabia, only the terms and details of the surrender to Sharia and Islam.