Noting that the Pew poll found that 47 percent consider themselves Muslim first and American second, while 42 percent consider themselves Christian first and American second, an Andrew Sullivan reader writes, snarkily, that he hopes American can assimilate those Christians too.
That's an understandable remark, but an ill-informed one. I think of myself as a Christian first, and American second. If the state forced me to choose between my God and my country, I hope I have the courage in the moment to choose my God. And I would expect that any true Muslim would believe the same. If you want to see what happens when a people are persuaded to worship their nation instead of their God, observe the behavior of the Christian churches in Nazi Germany. Pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer grasped early the mortal threat nationalism posed to the church, but he was in a minority. Do those who sneer at Christians (or any religious believer) who considers his primary loyalty to be not to the state, but to his God, really want the church (or the synagogue, or the mosque) to be subservient to Caesar? If yes, then Thomas More was a villain, and "A Man For All Seasons" is a play and film about a traitor who got his just desserts.
Secondly, the reason this figure about Muslim loyalty causes anxiety whereas the Christian figure doesn't has to do with the concrete circumstances of the present moment. Some Muslims are making war on this nation in the name of the Islamic religion. Given that, it is neither unsurprising nor irrational for most Americans to look with suspicion upon Muslims who proclaim (with total justification, I emphasize) a higher loyalty to Allah than to America. A more apt historical analogy from the Christian side would be the 1570 papal bull in which Rome declared Elizabeth I of England to be a heretic, and instructing English Catholics that they no longer had any loyalty to her. Thus did the pope stupidly make every English Catholic into a traitor in the eyes of the state, no matter how much they loved their country. This is not, of course, in any way to justify the terrible persecutions and martyrdoms visited upon faithful English Catholics during the time of the English Reformation. But it must be admitted that given that the Pope declared war on the English throne and attempted to incite Catholics in England to rebel against their sovereign, patriotic Englishmen would understandably regard the Queen's Catholic subjects with suspicion.

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The assertions about Muslims not worshipping the same God as the Judeo-Christian tradition reminds me of the circular reasoning (tautology?) that CS Lewis uses in Mere Christianity when he's describing various religions. Essentially: "Here are these various religions. They aren't as good as Christianity and the reason is because they aren't Christianity."
You fail to realize that Islamist terrorism is a politicized version of Islam itself.... Chance, since Islam recognizes no essential difference between mosque and state, your point makes no sense. Islam, by its very nature, is politicized. One bad apple cannot spoil the bunch...When we start blaming the whole of a group we end up putting blame on the father for the sin of the son. Chance, you should understand that al-Azhar -- the most prestigious seminary in the Sunni world -- has never issued fatwas against bin Laden, al-Qaeda, suicide bombers and other terrorsts even when they murder fellow Muslims! If that doesn't convince you of the fundamental immorality and corruption at the heart of Islam, then nothing can.
[T]he Pew poll found that 47 percent consider themselves Muslim first and American second, while 42 percent consider themselves Christian first and American second ... These numbers just seem weird to me and suggest that people don't understand very well what the question means. (I can't say that I understand very well what it means either.)
If the question is intended to mean, "Does my understanding of the nature and purpose of the universe [whether based on Christian theology, Islamic theology, or some secular principle] trump my allegiance to some temporal political entity?" I don't really understand how anyone could answer no. If the question is intended to mean, "Do I have more in common with a member of an Christian church in Africa or China or with the Jewish guy in the next cubicle whose kid is on my kid's YMCA basketball team?" I can readily see how people would answer the latter. I think of myself as a Christian first, and American second. If the state forced me to choose between my God and my country, I hope I have the courage in the moment to choose my God. That's part of what makes these numbers so weird. The respondents weren't answering them at the point of a gun; they were answering some random phone pollster.
Scurvy, I've read "Foxe" and I'm not talking about who outdid whom in the persecutions. Duffy's book is an historical, scholarly work that documents how the peaceful lives of many rural and small town folks who were perfectly happy being Catholic were completely overturned during the aftermath of the English Reformation. (And since I'm not Catholic, I don't have a dog in the hunt.) To those who compare Islam and Christianity: the difference between the two religions is that the former is fundamentally, substantially theocratic and the latter isn't. Christianity's veerings into the theocratic should be viewed as aberrations, and abhored as such. They betray the message of its founder. Islam, on the other hand, has been a religion of the sword almost since day one. From the beginning, they sent armies not missionaries. This is a profound difference between the two religions that we need to learn damned quick. Any "new improved" peaceful version of Islam is an anomaly.
There's a scene in the movie Chariots of Fire, where the British Olympic committee and the Prince of Wales are trying to talk Eric Liddell out of his decision not to run in a qualifying heat that was scheduled for a Sunday, because he believes in a strict observance of the Sabbath. One of the older committee members says, "In my day, it was King first -- God after." To which a younger committee member replies, "Yes, and the War to End All Wars bitterly proved your point!"
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