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Beauty and ugliness

Wednesday May 2, 2007

I wrote last week about the cost of filling our minds with violence and gore, and ignoring the good, the true and the beautiful. Today in the New York Times, a screenwriter agrees. Excerpt:For those who believe that violence in...
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Osvaldo Mandias
May 3, 2007 1:01 AM
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Amen.

Cleveland
May 3, 2007 1:32 AM
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How much more of a circulation drop will the NYT experience before we see that kind of conservative, common sense article as a routine?

wildwest
May 3, 2007 1:56 AM
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I don't like violence.

Irenaeus
May 3, 2007 1:59 AM
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I do like violence. And that's the problem...love Sopranos, NYPD Blue, Quentin Tarantino, Law & Order SVU, mob movies. the HBO series Rome, etc. Compelling drama in many ways. Not sure what to do with that.

Susan
May 3, 2007 3:17 AM
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The advertising industry in this country spends billions of dollars every year on the proposition that what we see does influence our behavior. This isn't some goody-goody church or other beneficent organization saying that, it's advertisers, and they're backing that up with real money. I'm not arguing with that kind of evidence. I believe them. What we see influences our behavior.
So what the Times says about movie violence? You betcha.

Joey
May 3, 2007 3:50 AM
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If one can spend two or three hours watching something, repeating the process many times, and not have it influence it you at all, why exactly do we have schools and churches? God bless.

Stacy
May 3, 2007 4:50 AM
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Mirror neurons anyone? For those who aren't compelled by morals, common sense, or capitalism, perhaps science will do. Frontal lobe, mirror neurons bring an interesting light to the "violence on tv doesn't affect us" issue.

M_David
May 3, 2007 4:07 PM
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How much more of a circulation drop will the NYT experience before we see that kind of conservative, common sense article as a routine? Cm'on...you gotta have more respect for liberals than that. They can't be bought off for thirty pieces of silver. The NYT deserves more for their ceaseless commitment to liberalism, in and out of season, profit or no. They've earned it.

mari lup
May 3, 2007 6:37 PM
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Mike White is a god but he's wrong about this. Every reputable study ever done shows that violent video games and movies do not increase violent behavior, and the murder rate in civilized countries is lower than at any time in history.

Cleveland
May 3, 2007 10:37 PM
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"...the murder rate in civilized countries is lower than at any time in history." mari lup, do you have a link for that statement?

BA
May 4, 2007 2:34 PM
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mari, Every reputable study ever done shows that violent video games and movies do not increase violent behavior, and the murder rate in civilized countries is lower than at any time in history. mari, sounds to me like whistling past the graveyard. If movies don't influence people, why does Hollywood fall all over itself when Brokeback Mountain, American Beauty, or Crash projects the images they want America to imbibe? Violence isn't as contagious as erotism or coarse language--a suburban white boy's adoption of the language and manner of a Crip or a Blood after watching a movie like Colors will fade. However, what sticks is the permission that that cinematic experience has given to violence as a way of life. Combined with other such permissions and not counteracted by equally strong prohibitions--well, a rock rolls the way it's dropped.
Or as Neil Postman put it in Amusing Ourselves to Death, one pollutant won't kill a single fish in the fish pond, but a steady stream of pollutants will poison the water entirely and kill of all of the fish. Hollywood's offerings have cultural impact, for good or for ill, and Hollywood betrays knowledge of this at every point. Hollywoods movers and shakers are hypocritical in that they pretend not to know this when it adversely impacts their agendae/revenues. If movies have no such affect, why the 2004 circus over Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ?

David J. White
May 4, 2007 6:37 PM
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To claim that violent movies or television programs have no effect on the behavior of people who watch it is, essentially, to subvert the entire assumption on which advertising is based, which means that TV networks have been taking all that money from advertisers under false pretenses. After all, what is TV advertising but an attempt to influence people's behavior (in this instance, their shopping behavior) through something they see on television?

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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