Crunchy Con

Mrs. Kucinich's wardrobe

Wednesday May 30, 2007

Whatever might be said about her husband's politics, Mrs. Dennis Kucinich has exquisitely crunchy tastes in clothes-shopping: she buys a lot at resale shops and thrift stores. I'm never prouder of my wife than when she brings out Baby Nora...
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Osvaldo Mandias
May 30, 2007 10:57 PM
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My wife sews. Neener. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

John Podhoretz
May 31, 2007 12:14 AM
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My wife buys at the Gap. Clearly she should be executed.

Elisa
May 31, 2007 12:33 AM
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I love thrift stores - they allow me to have good-quality clothing (and furniture!) while supporting a good cause. The ironic thing is that thrift stores wouldn't be any good if everyone was crunchy. As I told my friend, who was talking excitedly about his new $500 pair of jeans and the latest thing at Banana Republic, "I'm glad people like you buy expensive clothes, so people like me can pay $7 for them at the thrift store two years later!" My favorite thrift store has mainly Gap, Old Navy, J Crew, and Ann Taylor clothing. (It's where the SMU kids donate their old stuff, apparently.) I appreciate it - Gap and the others do make high-quality stuff.

David J. White
May 31, 2007 1:03 AM
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My ex-girlfriend lives in Kucinich's district and keeps me posted on his doings. Cleveland Magazine did a cover story on the current Mrs. K. last summer. (I think she's Mrs. K. #3.) *** I seldom find anything that fits me at thrift stores, probably because people who are as chubby as I am find it hard enough to find clothes that fit that they keep wearing them until they literally fall apart. (I know I do.) On the other hand, thrift stores are a good place to find odd dishes that match my discontinued Corelle pattern. (Sorry if this appears twice; I'm having some trouble with HaloScan.)

Rawlins Gilliland
May 31, 2007 2:02 AM
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I spent 18 years with the MOST expensive clothier in the USA, Neiman Marcus, where as National Sales Director, I was expected to wear (and did routinely) $2000-3000 suits. And I was a Clinton guy, despite working in,around,for..... the land of rabidly Pro-Bush corporate wonderland entitlement (top 2% of nation). When a pair of shoes costs $1,000, the target customer is hardly non-GOP types. In life after that surrender to fashionable elitists, I buy everything pretty much on eBay. Still a $2000 suit. I just pay instead $169, then tailor it for me. What that makes me is a smart dresser and a savvy consumer....perhaps not "crunchy", but rather, crisp enough to chip a fool's brittle teeth.

James Kabala
May 31, 2007 2:30 AM
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I always thought (not meaning to criticize your wife, who seems from all your accounts of her to be a lovely person) that it was a little bit dishonest, or at least sneaky, for well-off people to take advantage of these programs meant for the genuinely poor. Wouldn't you feel you were doing something creepy if you actually went and ate a meal at a soup kitchen? The principle seems much the same to me. When I donate my old clothes to St. Vincent DePaul, I'd like to they end up as the clothes of the families of minimum wage earners, not newspaper columnists.

Rawlins Gilliland
May 31, 2007 2:44 AM
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James, I understand what you say, but in all due respect, may I put this in perspective, as someone who knows quite a lot about this subject on virtually all levels, including non-profit thrift retail.
The people who shop at thrift shops...and I have many times...support the charities they are catering to. And besides, trust me, there is such a glut of American clothes donated to the Thrift stores, much of it...in fact the lion's share...is taken by truck to the Mexican border where it is sold by the pound. And more to the point, percent to total, many, many 'thrift stores' are for-profit and not charity related. Believe me, if Julie buys a this or that, they are many options still left for whomever. The point YOU are making would apply if they were going to a thrift center where items were distributed free to those low income and indigent.

Karen Marie Knapp
May 31, 2007 2:57 AM
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Thrift shops can be wild! I was at my neighborhood one yesterday, picked up a $2 bright-colored scarf to make a bicycle flag for my mobility scooter (no bike shop in the barrio!). I got it home and started gluing and sewing it to my dowel rod --- and looking at it closer, found out it's designer real silk by Vera. The only scooter with a designer bike flag.......

Rawlins Gilliland
May 31, 2007 3:08 AM
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I've got a scarf story better than that; I was digging in a bin of odds and ins in a very trashy Dallas thrift store...totally chaotic and disorder everywhere. And pulled out a scarf I asked about and got for 25 cents. (Now here comes the 'I only knew this because I had worked at Neiman Marcus' part) I knew what it was; it was an Hermes Paris huge square scarf, probably more that $400 at today's dollar vs. Euro. I sold it on eBay for $165. And used THAT money to help pay my medical bills since circa 2003, I was not able to work for months following a grisly accident. How's THAT for re-cycling!

connie
May 31, 2007 3:09 AM
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Hey, David, Kucinich has been married exactly one time. Unlike your fav Republican candidates. Nice slander there, though.

James Kabala
May 31, 2007 4:14 AM
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Connie, Wikipedia says the following: "He is twice-divorced, with a daughter, Jackie, from his marriage to Sandra Lee McCarthy and married his third wife, Elizabeth Harper, a British citizen, on August 21, 2005." Now we all know Wikipedia is not always reliable, but this article from the Cleveland Plain Dealer confirms that daughter Jackie is real, so if she's not the child of a first wife she must be born out of wedlock, scarcely a better possibility: http://www.cleveland.com/weblogs/print.ssf?/mtlogs/cleve_openers/archives/print119957.html Other links discovered via Google reveal that Jackie Kucinich now writes for The Hill, a Capitol Hill newspaper.

Cassie
May 31, 2007 4:39 AM
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Rawlins Gilliland, I'd be very interested in knowing more about this suit-buying plan of yours. Do you have a specific seller that you'd care to recommend?

Rawlins Gilliland
May 31, 2007 5:36 AM
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Cassie, I buy from a Dutch photographer, a stylist in L.A., and a man in Hong Kong occassionally. All three have sold me the Belgium designer I am crazy about, which fits me, is hip but sorta conservative, well made, not too young but definitely not stodgy...normally quite expensive, versatile and handsome. See why I was a crackerjack salesperson in my early NM career? I could made a nun want the postman. But no, everyone has to find their own niche, and line, and sellers on eBay. It is not a one size fits all kinda hunt. To wear the line I wear I mentioned, one has to be relatively slim, etc. There are no shortcuts to being a savvy eBayer.

Mark Adams
May 31, 2007 6:03 AM
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connie, Kucinich has been married three times. See http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070323/23kucinichfacts.htm and http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/washington/washington/entries/2007/02/05/ Nice false accusation of slander there, though.

Rawlins Gilliland
May 31, 2007 6:05 AM
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Well, he divorced the first two because they spent too much money on clothes.

Mark Adams
May 31, 2007 6:08 AM
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Mr. Kabala, Thrift stores do not exist for poor people . . . at least in the way you seem to think they do. Salvation Army and Goodwill help the poor by using the money they make from sales at their stores. It's not the same as a soup kitchen which exists exclusively for those who cannot afford to buy themselves food.

John Stamps
May 31, 2007 3:11 PM
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For example, the Raphael House in SF has a really nice thrift store. http://www.raphaelhouse.org/donate/thrift.shtml If there ever was a model how to run a charitable service to help families get off the streets, it's the Raphael House. http://www.raphaelhouse.org/index.shtml

David J. White
May 31, 2007 3:27 PM
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James Kabala -- Thanks for checking on that. I grew up in NE Ohio and I remember when Kucinich became mayor of Cleveland 30 years ago (I'm not sure his current wife had even been born yet), and I could have sworn that his wife at the time was named Sandy. Turns out I was right. So take that, Connie! What exactly makes you think I'm a Republican? (I used to be, but then I grew up. ;-) ) Any hostility I have against Kucinich is due to personal memories of the mess he made in Cleveland.

dbkenner
May 31, 2007 5:07 PM
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"When a pair of shoes costs $1,000, the target customer is hardly non-GOP types." Ha!!!!!!!!! What planet are you living on? Who do you think makes up the Democratic party? Sharecroppers?
When the whole Bush-Gore-Florida-election circus was going on, I had a very good (and very liberal) friend over to watch the news. The news copter kept showing these huge, multi-million dollar homes in Florida that make Graceland look like an outhouse.
The reporter happened to mention that this was a major Democratic Party stronghold and I watched my friend's mouth drop open. She honestly thought that all the super rich resided in the mean, cruel GOP.
So does John Edwards get furniture for his 30,000 sq. ft. energy-sucking house from the Salvation Army? I guess all those rich folks I saw in NYC with their Madison Ave shopping bags -- who were drinking their $5 lattes and cursing Guliani -- were in fact very thrifty working class types on a rare excursion into shopping district.

ScurvyOaks
May 31, 2007 6:34 PM
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Rawlins, you might enjoy this article about a bunch of high-end fashion that ended up in generally plain-dressed Portland, Maine after 9/11 damaged Century 21 in lower Manhattan:
http://dir.salon.com/story/mwt/style/2002/01/28/portland/index.html A sample: "In short, much of the city has had a fashion makeover right out of the movies. Look, see the deckhand in his trim navy Donna Karan windbreaker! The cashier at the greengrocer looks lovely today in her new Philosophy di Alberta Ferretti blouson! Why, the cheese lady should always wear Gianfranco Ferre!"

Anonymous Also
May 31, 2007 7:33 PM
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I have a nephew who's mentally handicapped and autistic. He works at the local Goodwill store here three days a week as a stock sorter. The pride on his face and in his voice when he brings home his check to show everyone each week is immeasurable. So, my point is I really don't care who shops at thrift and Goodwill type stores. It's these kind of stores who hire people like my nephew and give them a hand up, so I say hurrah and thank you to anyone who does.

little john
May 31, 2007 9:39 PM
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Garland Road Trift Shop or Barney's? Who cares?

little john
May 31, 2007 9:39 PM
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Whoops, forgot to give propos to JPod for his funny comment.

Rawlins Gilliland
May 31, 2007 9:52 PM
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dbkenner, I am not grabbing stats from polarized thin air. I am quoting internally from when I was actually the sales director for the national specialty retailer company catering to the top 2% of earned income Americans. It was estimated that our studies showed that relatively few voted Democratic, and 93% were solidly GOP. And this was at the height of Bill Clinton's popularity, pre-Monica. These stats remain essentially unchanged as I am a consultant to the industry. Hollywood is one thing; the hinterlands another. Don't shoot the messenger, Dude. There's a heckuva lot of room between the millionaires behind gates my employer cater to and share croppers. This is simply not an argumant worth making. There are plenty of extravagant and wealthy Dems, certainly. But if thrifty anti-status-flash-moola was the GOP norm, Rod Dreher would not have had a subject for his book...in fact the anomaly antidisestablishment Republican who is appalled by overconsumption.

connie
June 1, 2007 2:51 AM
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I was wrong about Kucinich's prior marriages. Sorry.

David J. White
June 1, 2007 8:40 PM
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No problem, Connie. I apologize if I was a little snarky in my reply.

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