Crunchy Con

Not getting with the program

Monday May 21, 2007

Last week, the south Jersey mosque where three of the alleged Fort Dix terrorists worshiped held an open house to declare itself a peaceful mosque, and to demonstrate to the public that they couldn't have learned anything about terrorism there. Later, Najeem Badat, a spokeswoman for the mosque, appeared on Steve Malzberg's radio show (link to that interview here). When asked straightforwardly if Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists, Badat said that the definition of terrorist is different for different people.

Gosh, I can't imagine why people would have suspicions about the atmosphere at that mosque.

Question: if the Irish Republican Army had destroyed the Twin Towers five years ago, and some Irish Catholics from south Jersey had been arrested on charges of planning a terrorist attack on Fort Dix, and a spokeswoman for the Catholic parish where they prayed wouldn't condemn the IRA as a terrorist organization -- would it be anti-Catholic to view that parish with suspicion?
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mari lup
May 22, 2007 5:09 PM
HASH(0xb03e920)

Wow, this is one of your worst anlyses _ever,_ Rod. First, the "Fort Dix terrorists" were a bunch of hapless guys with no real plan or intentions until they were lured into a real, intended plan by a government agent. Second, you demonstrate your utter ignorance and lack of humanity by demanding that the AIPAC line on Hezbollah and Hamas be followed by everyone. How _dare_ you try to impose your easy, self-righteous judgments about the Palestinian and Lebanese struggles on all parties with interests there? Arrogant.

K.Bitner
May 22, 2007 5:46 PM
HASH(0xb12e994)

"Have you ever tried to get a person of Irish descent to renounce the IRA?" You've got one, right here. Born Murphy, mother born O'Dea. I, and all members of my family, have always condemmed the terrorism of the IRA. That being said, I feel a bit ambiguous about this Mosque. I, even though I'm of Irish descent, certainly don't feel the need to apologize on behalf of the IRA. I didn't perform any of their atrocities, and I am not responsible for what they did. Neither are all Muslims responsible for 9/11. However, if they truly wish to be though of as a religions of peace, they should be condemming the terrorist's acts, not remaining silent.

Phil
May 22, 2007 6:10 PM
HASH(0x9df845c)

"As Buchanan often puts it, "Why must our war on Al Qaeda expand to include Israel's war on the Arabs?" Far be it for me to correct Buchanan, but shouldn't this be "the Arab's war on Israel"?? Last I checked Jews are not strapping on explosive vests and blowing up buses in Damascus. We have the ability to put a stop to this quickly. The story in the news a few days ago about the Purdue professor with applications to DoE to develop aluminum/hydrogen fuel - we as citizens need to demand that this be tested and rushed to production as fast as possible. Getting fossil fuels out of our cars makes Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Iraq, Hugo Chavez and all the other Middle East oil barons irrelevant, and powerless, almost overnight. Come on, Washington, figure it out..... Phil

Alicia
May 22, 2007 7:38 PM
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Check out these results of the latest Pew survey, this one of American Muslims: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18797530/ Particularly chilling to note that "One in four younger U.S. Muslims say suicide bombings to defend their religion are acceptable at least in some circumstances..."
and,
"Only 40 percent (of U.S. Muslims) said they believe Arab men carried out the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001." If this "40 percent" figure is true, U.S. Muslims have a greater capacity to delude themselves than Dick Cheney and George W. Bush. Astonishing.

David J. White
May 23, 2007 10:13 PM
HASH(0xb1e7f14)

I'm just curious, have we ever apologized to the Japanese for using weapons of mass destruction on hundreds of thousands of their civilians? Are we proud that we are the only nation in world history that has actually used nuclear weapons and used them to kill civilians indiscriminately? So much for being a Christian nation. (Sigh.)
The Allies had already crossed the moral line about killing large numbers of civilians with the firebombing of Tokyo, Dresden, etc. In this context, the use of the atomic bomb by the summer of 1945 simply crossed a technological line, not a moral one -- i.e., it was just using one big bomb to do what the Allies were already doing with lots of little bombs. Given the behavior of the Japanese in Nanking, etc., I don't think the Allies lost too much sleep over the bombing of Japanese cities. Besides, in a total war like WWII, what really was the difference between "civilian" and "combatant"? If you are, say, a 30-year old woman with children who has a war-related job working in a munitions factory, and you support your country's war effort in other ways (buying war bombs, taking part in scrap drives, etc.), are you a civilian or a combatant? I would say that if you are contributing in any way to your country's war effort, you are a combatant, and the other side has every right to treat you as such. And, before someone brings up Al-Quaida, etc. and asks whether I think that they are justified in regarding civilians as legitimate targets, I believe that, given their view of the world and their construction of their war against the West, I believe that, from their point of view, they are.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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