Crunchy Con

On second thought

Friday May 25, 2007

...maybe that reunion of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia and the Russian Orthodox Church that I thought was so encouraging wasn't all it was cracked up to be. From a column in the Wall Street Journal:

As long as the Church Abroad existed as an independent entity, it implicitly challenged the authority of Moscow to speak for the Russian Church. It consistently denounced the collaboration of the church with the Communist Party, called for a more positive valuation of Russia's prerevolutionary and anticommunist past and served as a hopeful beacon to Orthodox Christians in Russia seeking an alternative.

Many in the Church Abroad wonder how this merger went through at all. The process was secretive, and there has even been speculation that some American businessmen with Russian ties helped to push it along. But now having accepted Moscow's authority, the former Church Abroad faces many questions. Can its leaders press Moscow to reject the church's tradition of collaborating with both the Kremlin and the KGB? Can they hold on to the church properties they have maintained for the past 80 years? Will the Moscow Church dispatch pro-Kremlin clergy to promote political aims? And, above all, can the leaders of the Church Abroad stem the tide of defection from the disappointed faithful that has already begun?
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Masha
May 28, 2007 10:32 PM
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Is Eugene Rose (Fr.Seraphim) known in USA? One Russian Orthodox woman living in California says it grows there, but maybe she sees what she wants to see. I also thought that O.C. in America were something like Papuans in Russia, and if articles appear in big newspapers they must be most likely written by emigrants who mix their political views with the church, because simply about church it will be not interesting to publish. Hardly anyone would verify if what that woman-historian wrote in her article was true, maybe she distorted quotes, used wrong sourses or used rumours circling at her parish, and it forms not positive opinions, but maybe noone reading that That woman from California said that exhibitions of orthodox art are always sold out, that americans are very much interested in orthodox spiritual music and icons, and she seen many children there coming with parents.

Masha
May 28, 2007 10:34 PM
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This weekend mother took me for an excursion to St.Trinity monastery in the country, and we occasionaly met Patriarch there, we didn't expect to meet him, it was eve of Saint Trinity day, which is celebrated as birthday of Church, he came there to serve festive liturgy. http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7879/tr1bo4.jpg http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7724/tr2pm8.jpg http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2765/tr4wr6.jpg http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1580/tr5ab8.jpg (i made some pics)
I think Alexy is a very wise man, and as patriarch of Russia he feels responsibility for russian people, maybe that is why he thanked Putin as president for caring about reviving of religion in Russia, in private he might say to him other words, as to an ordinary christian, maybe he thought it was not necessary to condemn or praise someone's spiritual life on public, he is a great diplomat And he obviously has many enemies here, before the signing of Act many liberal newspapers (and one very famous radiostation) started to spread information that he had operation and was dying, which was not true:) It is also interesting to note that patriarch's surname is Ridiger which sounds similar to Ratzinger, the Pope.

Richard Barrett
May 28, 2007 11:59 PM
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Fr. Seraphim Rose is known in the USA, yes. He's not an uncontroversial figure by any means, but he is definitely known. Richard

Scott Walker
May 29, 2007 6:00 PM
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Masha, the writings of Fr. Seraphim were a huge influence on my decision to become Orthodox. I live in Oregon, about a day's journey north of the monastery Fr. Seraphim founded, and many people from here make the pilgrimage to Platina to venerate his grave. But Richard is right; Fr. Seraphim is controversial. And Rod is right; Orthodoxy is close to being invisible on the American scene, but we are growing. Our parish is about 90% former Protestants or Roman Catholics. Regarding suspicion among some of the faithful, I think that maybe the history of betrayal and persecution explains it, but doesn't excuse it.

Richard Barrett
May 31, 2007 6:14 AM
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One other thought concerning this--I know nobody's reading this anymore, but this sticks in my craw. As long as the Church Abroad existed as an independent entity, it implicitly challenged the authority of Moscow to speak for the Russian Church. It consistently denounced the collaboration of the church with the Communist Party, called for a more positive valuation of Russia's prerevolutionary and anticommunist past and served as a hopeful beacon to Orthodox Christians in Russia seeking an alternative. This whole paragraph comes across as wildly ignorant of Orthodox ecclesiology. Either the Church is one or she is not; if she is, then schisms are to be healed, not maintained for political advantage. Orthodoxy always hearkens back to a day when one didn't have the option of going church-shopping; it seems disingenuous to argue that healing a schism is a bad thing because it robs one of the present-day option (real, perceived, or otherwise) to do so. Richard

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