Crunchy Con

A reader's skepticism

Wednesday May 23, 2007

My newspaper, the Dallas Morning News, has for some time taken a position in favor of immigration reform along the lines of what's being proposed in this compromise bill. I'm in the minority on the editorial board in opposing this kind of reform. A reader of ours has a pretty good take, I think, on what this newspaper -- and, I would say, quite a few others -- is advocating. The reader used to live in a suburb, but sold his house (at no profit) and moved away when he concluded that illegal immigration was bringing down property values (he now lives in Nebraska, in an ethnically mixed neighborhood, and is fine with that). So he's not a disinterested observer. This from him appears on the DMN editorial board blog, where we've been fiercely debating this issue (you might want to visit our blog to read the argumentation; it gives a pretty good picture of the debate inside a major media outlet in a border-state city where illegal immigration is a hugely controversial issue):

Here is what I read in The Dallas Morning News:

1. Can’t deport 12 million people so do nothing.

2. Won’t enforce the law, so keep the law and just look the other way.

3. Can’t secure the border 100 percent, so don’t bother building a fence.

4. Allowing 12 million people to stay in the country indefinitely isn’t amnesty.

5. We have to accept mediocre law because the Senate won’t reconsider for years if we don’t agree to this one.

6. The federal government won’t enforce the law, so the people have no recourse to do so locally.

7. Whole cities can obstruct justice, and the federal government won’t do anything about that, either.

8. No one suggests that we repeal the immigration laws that we don’t enforce because that would be politically untenable.

9. U.S. citizenship is meaningless to both Democrats and Republicans.

10. The United States -- and only the United States -- has no right to secure its borders.

11. We want to rely on cheap labor by ignoring the borders, yet advocates for the illegal aliens want them unionized and paid as much as citizens.

12. National security is at the top of everyone’s list unless it offends Hispanics or the Mexican government.

13. Municipalities ignore their own zoning laws for illegals driving down property values -- like not telling people not to park five nonrunning cars in their yards -- for fear of being called racist.
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JH
May 24, 2007 7:55 AM
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I think today I reached a breaking point. I might take a break from politcs from a while. I support the comprehensive reform bill. THere is some stuff in there that makes some sense. I will not go into to another huge 8 paragraph tirade about Christian Justice. I see alot of people that profited from illegal immigration. From big Business to some of my neighbors. I know people in New Orleans that are using illegals to try to get their homes prepared before yet another hurricane system. I suspect they rant about the illegals also. THis all reminds me of the slave issue. A solution that was advocated was send them all back to Africa after we have used their labors. Suprise not many wanted to go back. IT seems people wan to put all the punative sanction on the illegals and none on us that used these people for their labors. We want no consequences. It doesn't matter if there 3.1 million children that are AMericans involved that is no matter. I hear the call to deport them too. I suspect some planters in the bad ole days would have done the same to some of their offspring if that Civil war solution had been an a real option I am just a American that happens to be Catholic and is trying to do the best he can to live God's word. I am no open borders guy but I believe in fairness. In my small North Louisiana town we hold one mass for Hispanics(they are mostly illegals and green card workers a week). I decided if a immigration bill passes I will do my part to help these people to assimilate. By the way, we can only do one English class but could easily do 5 more with the demand. So much for they don't care to learn. Today, I saw 5 people stop by or call the Church to ask for money. That was in 6 hours. The Secretary said, commenting on the immigration bill, that she never gets calls from the illegals or green card people for assistance. The only thing they want is the asacraments and help getting to Mass. That is my story as to that. I know it is not the same everywhere. But isn't that the point. These are individuals but yet they are all the great "them" that all act alike and think alike. I have some sympathy for that because I was told by many last year that all Louisiana folks were worthless and that we did not have any gratitude etc etc. Why? Because of how some people acted in NEw Orleans. NO matter if they didn't have a clue about how people acted heroically in St Bernard, Slidel, and a million other places. We were classified as deadbeats after Katrina and Rita. Some people in New Orleans acted horribly and we were all brushed with it. It was unfair but a reality. So I have just a slight feeling of how it is to be classifyed as one big "THEM" But today was a breaking point. The hate is getting unreal. Yes ,there is hate and vileness out there. The poor people that work in the Church to assist these people get the most horrid calls from "Christians" and others. TOday I got a few of those because I was there. Well, as a conservative I am pretty tired of being called a traitor, a Quinsling, and various other names. I am tired of Church secretaries being on the recieving end of bile because they have a Church that offers the Body and Blood of Christ to people after they work 60 and 70 hours weeks. The Right, in which I am a part of, has a responsibility to tell people to be civil. It is getting as shrill as the far left and about as productive. It is to be blunt in the things I hear the antiChrist. People need to take a step back and look at this bill and the provisions. There are some good things in it. If you don't like this then be prepared for something more liberal. NO one is talking about the STRIVE bill in the house that if passess will make the situation far worse.
There are a lot of Americans that don't have a problem with some pathway and regularization of the illegals. There are alot of Republicans that think that way. Yet our views are not getting a hearing it seems. Tomorrow I will prepare for the Friday "iilegal" and "Green Card Mass as I call it. But I will say up a prayer to Our Lady of Gudualupe who is Patroness of all the Americans and ask her to give us to pray to ask her son to give us patience with each other in this such hard problem we face. Anyway I had enough. If conservative means that it is ok to whip people into a unthinking fury. On blogs to to threaten to expose dirt on people in Congress if they vote for "amnesty", and to turn a blind eye to the most horrible racial and ethnic comments then I guess it is not for me. JH Louisiana

dbkenner
May 24, 2007 5:14 PM
www.catholicfriendsofisrael.com

"With so many complaining about the state of illegal workers in this nation, there are few who suggest that we also go after those who hire them." I don't know who you mean. Every "secure the borders" group has called for severe penalties for employers who hire illegals, up to and including burning them at the stake. If you mean Republicans, that's certainly true. But then again, most of these Republicans aren't really for border enforcement anyway. This idea that the "hard core" anti-illegal immigration crowd wants to give business a pass, but stick it to the illegal is false. From Michelle Malking to The Minutemen, there would be corks a-poppin' at the site of massive raids and arrests on the offices of those businesses who trade in illegal labor.
Again, the assumption that there is something racist at the heart of any and all opposition to open borders is ridiculous.

wildwest
May 24, 2007 7:34 PM
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"their views on immigration are much more line with the radical left because they depend on cheap labor working under nearly serf-like conditions to keep the cost of their products low." This is the first time I have ever heard cheap labor conservatism connected with the "radical" left.

Osvaldo Mandias
May 25, 2007 12:02 AM
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JH, the great majority of conservatives would be satisfied with an approach where the current illegals were regularized and allowed to stay provided we put a stop to further illegal immigration. Until we've demonstrated that we can do that, your compassion makes you de facto "open borders," whether you claim to be or not.

harvey lacey
May 27, 2007 12:55 AM
http://www.harveylacey.com

Municipalities ignore their own zoning laws for illegals driving down property values -- like not telling people not to park five nonrunning cars in their yards -- for fear of being called racist. That's ignorance on a puppy talking about horsemanship,pure unadulterated cow poopy. The Hispanics don't drive down property values. They move where the property values are low because that's what they can afford. First come the low property values, then comes the poor, not the other way around. You can drive through parts of south Dallas, comparable sections of Oak Cliff, and then you can toodle on out to the country. You see the same thing, cars in yards, appliances that stopped working and made it to the porch, Walmarty toys discarded everywhere. It's not about race. It's about poverty. The Hispanics aren't any more likely to have cars parked in their yard than Whites or Blacks. Unless of course, you're wearing racist glasses.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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