Crunchy Con

If she knew, would she care?

Thursday August 16, 2007

Categories: Islam, Politics (general)

Karen Hughes, I mean. According to my colleagues at the DMN's Religion blog, the Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy is going to be the speaker this weekend at a Texas Muslim Scholarship Fund banquet in the Dallas area. The fund, and banquet, are sponsored by the Texas-based Freedom & Justice Foundation, which is run by Mohamed Elibiary, a sometime commenter on the CC blog comboxes (hi, Abu Humaid!).

So, who cares, right? Who can possibly be against raising money for scholarships for Muslim students. Not me.

But I do wonder why Hughes is getting mixed up with Elibiary and his organization. Elibiary was one of the speakers at the local event billed as a "Tribute to the Great Islamic Visionary, the Ayatollah Khomeini" a few years back here in town. He later explained in a newspaper column that he had no advance knowledge that the conference was going to be framed that way, but even if he had, he would still have participated, to offer what he calls a counter-perspective.

Elibiary is also the guy who argued that Sayyid Qutb's influential book "Milestones," which the Dallas Central Mosque had teenagers participating in an Islamic quiz contest study several years ago, was ... well, here's what he wrote to me:


I'm looking at a copy of "Milestones", "In the Shade of the Quran" and "Islam and Universal Peace" (all written by Syed Qutb) in the Library at our office as I'm writing you this. Now I'm not an extremist preacher nor a radicalism tolerating board member, but what I am is an American who knows our laws very well and first amongst these is freedom of speech. Now after overlooking your laced language once more harking back to a more convenient time period for your political views ("bloodcurdling manifesto"), I'd like to ask you to explain how Milestones calls for the "violent imposition of Islamic totalitarianism worldwide" because I must of missed something there? Like I've stated to you on multiple occasions and shared with your colleagues, you don't understand the subject matter you speak on with such authority and it would benefit you to act as a student before grabbing the teacher's ruler.

You can follow the link I provided to read excerpts from "Milestones," Qutb's manifesto calling for violent world Islamic revolution to impose shariah rule. Here are a couple of representative passages:

The way to establish God's rule on earth is not that some consecrated people - the priests - be given the authority to rule, as was the case with the rule of the Church, nor that some spokesmen of God become rulers, as is the case in a 'theocracy'. To establish God's rule means that His laws be enforced and that the final decision in all affairs be according to these laws.

The establishing of the dominion of God on earth, the abolishing of the dominion of man, the taking away of sovereignty from the usurper to revert it to God, and the bringing about of the enforcement of the Divine Law (Shari'ah) and the abolition of man-made laws cannot be achieved only through preaching. Those who have usurped the authority of God and are oppressing God's creatures are not going to give up their power merely through preaching...

This universal declaration of the freedom of man on the earth from every authority except that of God, and the declaration that sovereignty is God's alone and that He is the Lord of the universe, is not merely a theoretical, philosophical and passive proclamation. It is a positive, practical and dynamic message with a view to bringing about the implementation of the Shari'ah of God and actually freeing people from their servitude to other men to bring them into the service of God, the One without associates. This cannot be attained unless both 'preaching' and 'the movement' are used. This is so because appropriate means are needed to meet any and every practical situation.

...This religion is not merely a declaration of the freedom of the Arabs, nor is its message confined to the Arabs. It addresses itself to the whole of mankind, and its sphere of work is the whole earth. God is the Sustainer not merely of the Arabs, nor is His providence limited to those who believe in the faith of Islam. God is the Sustainer of the whole world. This religion wants to bring back the whole world to its Sustainer and free it from servitude to anyone other than God.

...If the actual life of human beings is found to be different from this declaration of freedom, then it becomes incumbent upon Islam to enter the field with preaching as well as the movement, and to strike hard at all those political powers which force people to bow before them and which rule over them, unmindful of the commandments of God, and which prevent people from listening to the preaching and accepting the belief if they wish to do so. After annihilating the tyrannical force, whether it be in a political or a racial form, or in the form of class distinctions within the same race, Islam establishes a new social, economic and political system, in which the concept of the freedom of man is applied in practice.

It is not the intention of Islam to force its beliefs on people, but Islam is not merely 'belief'. As we have pointed out, Islam is a declaration of the freedom of man from servitude to other men. Thus it strives from the beginning to abolish all those systems and governments which are based on the rule of man over men and the servitude of one human being to another. When Islam releases people from this political pressure and presents to them its spiritual message, appealing to their reason, it gives them complete freedom to accept or not to accept its beliefs. However, this freedom does not mean that they can make their desires their gods, or that they can choose to remain in the servitude of other human beings, making some men lords over others. Whatever system is to be established in the world ought to be on the authority of God, deriving its laws from Him alone. Then every individual is free, under the protection of this universal system, to adopt any belief he wishes to adopt. This is the only way in which 'the religion' can be purified for God alone.

On another occasion, I wrote about the brilliant Sayyid Qutb's legacy of inspiring al-Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood (whose chief theoretician he was), and modern Islamic terror movements. In response, Elibiary wrote of Qutb:

Reading Rod's piece, I finally grasped why Qutb is so feared. It’s always easier to direct our fears at one focal point then face our challenge. ... Many Westerners who've read Qutb's and many others' work, see the potential for a strong spiritual rebirth that's truly ecumenical allowing all faiths practiced in America to enrich us and motivate us to serve God better by serving our fellow man more. At that point, America will have a spiritual product that’s exportable and satisfactory to the spiritual marketplace’s demand. So I'd recommend everyone read Qutb, but read him with an eye to improving America not just to be jealous with malice in our hearts.

I certainly agreed with Elibiary that everyone should read Qutb (see "Milestones" in English translation here), but not for the same reasons. It's helpful to come across Qutb passages like this:

It is not the function of Islam to compromise with the concepts of Jahiliyyah [unbelief] which are current in the world or to coexist in the same land together with a jahili system. ... Islam's stand is very clear. It says that the truth is one and cannot be divided; if it is not the truth, then it must be falsehood. The mixing and co-existence of the truth and falsehood is impossible. Command belongs to God, or otherwise to Jahiliyyah; God's Shari'ah will prevail, or else people's desires. [snip] The foremost duty of Islam in this world is to depose Jahiliyyah from the leadership of man, and to take the leadership into its own hands and enforce the particular way of life which is its permanent feature. ...The chasm between Islam and Jahiliyyah is great, and a bridge is not to be built across it so that the people on the two sides may mix with each other, but only so that the people of Jahiliyyah may come over to Islam...

So the Undersecretary of State is going to be the guest speaker at an event run by a guy who believes Sayyid Qutb is a potential agent of "strong spiritual rebirth" for America? Beautiful. Moreover, Elibiary created yesterday in his comment on the DMN religion blog a great new euphemism for Islamists: "evangelical Muslims." He would have people believe that any Muslim who wants to live as a Muslim is an "Islamist." In fact, the term commonly refers to Muslims who embrace political Islam, and who advocate -- some violently, but not all -- living in a society governed by shariah.

Does Elibiary want to live in a society governed by shariah? Incidentally, Elibiary is also the Dallas Muslim leader who wrote this to me, concerning my criticism of Islamic extremism:

Treat people as inferiors and you can expect someone to put a banana in your exhaust pipe or something.

Now, I wonder if the Undersecretary of State understands just what she's lending legitimacy to by her presence at the banquet. Or if she did, given the Bush administration's sorry record of coddling Islamists, I wonder if she'd care.

Advertisement
Comments
WholeBrainer
August 17, 2007 10:59 AM

I linked here from LGF. Thanks for another enlightening article on the threat-of-Islam.

Only read Chapter 9, from your linked version of "Milestones," but it's VERY clear: believers are to fight, fight, fight, for the imposition of Islam over the entire world, and with that the sharia/"God's" law [sp-!].

In that same chapter, Muslims are clearly told they have no loyalty to the actual physical country they currently live in, unless it is Islamic, w/ said system of law. And if they showed any such loyalty, respect, or obedience, they'd be breaking the Koran's law to be only under "God's law."

"Milestones" is a valuable piece for defenders of the West to read, as it is on the "Young Muslims" website, for one, and secondly is completely interwoven with Koranic quotations to back up every one of the author's exhortations [at least Chpt. 9].

Those of you with family members converting to Islam ought to be aware of one of the examples cited from the Koran to illustrate the need/command to respect parents and other [blood] relations who won't/haven't converted: a believer had his beheading-sword poised over his own dad's neck, ready to do the deed if Mohammed didn't say give permission for him to be let go. Fortunately the "cease and desist" order came.

I guess that's why so much of that is going on now: Mohammed's no longer around to give his permission to be "merciful." Sure.

Alicia
August 17, 2007 11:01 AM

ScurvyOaks, Berman goes into even more detail about the war of ideas in the book. I would be very interested if you, Rod or anyone else could recommend the best authorities on Liberalism, as a political theory?

I'm so used to the definition of being liberal as supporting a set of social programs that I'm not even sure I have a full appreciation of the concept anymore. In any event, I think we need a redefinition of both the liberal ideal and the conservative ideal to include people like me who feel like they are a little bit of both. Crunchy liberalism?

Abu-Hamaid
August 17, 2007 3:29 PM

Rodney boy,

Still up to the same "this is how I understand the world and damn it if you don't believe it like me" attitude. Anyways, I'm sure you're doing all this because you didn't get an invitation to the Banquet and you're upset about my taking your DMN post to task about CAIR earlier this week. You should just be happy that I didn’t cc the entire DMN editorial board to embarrass you. If it was up to me, I would have sent you an invitation but some felt you wouldn't know how to behave yourself in a civil atmosphere. Like I said before: "you don't understand the subject matter you speak on with such authority and it would benefit you to act as a student before grabbing the teacher's ruler."

My response to your tired Khomeini event is online (http://www.freeandjust.org/KhomeiniAyatollapoluza.htm) and the fact of the matter is that no mainstream media or government has ever cared about me giving a 10-15 minute talk telling folks to register to vote and get civically engaged.

The fact you’ll never be able to overcome is I and my views are an open book, and no one including yourself who’s ever asked me a question has ever not received an answer from me. You sent me a laundry list of question after that Sunni-Shia Unity event I spoke at and I answered them all in front of the entire DMN editorial board. You on the other hand still haven’t answered one single question sent to you on why on earth would you willingly attend a forum to discuss the effectiveness of “Nuking Mecca” as a national policy in response to 9/11.

I answer, you hide and complain online on a blog, sometimes forwarding to Charles at LittleGreenFootballs.com and Robert at JihadWatch.com (facts they’ve posted on their own blogs). What a dork…’manufacturing dissent’ while pretending to be a journalist.
And if that’s not lame enough, you attempted to turn my obvious reference to an Eddie Murphy movie (banana in your pipe for treating folks as if they’re below) into a veiled threat to your bigoted views. Like I told you before, pathetic dodge from the real issues being debated when you have no response. You pulled one comical sentence out of about a dozen page response showing you why your arguments are “incorrect”. What does that say for your journalistic ethics???

My offer to sit down over an extended lunch with you and answer any questions on how to improve US-Muslim World Relations has always been on the table and will remain there. Tens of thousands have taken it up by hearing my speeches over the years, but then again either you know your arguments supporting the clash of civilizations paradigm are weak or you're not really interested in improving relations because you can’t even like yourself much less get along with others. “Just kill them all and let God sort it out”...Have fun buddy boy!

Bugg
August 18, 2007 1:20 PM

While Rod can easily defend himself, but I'd note that "diologue" to Muslims consists of the Westernenrs giving up or givng in.Or burning cartoonists, or threatening to kill novelists, or some other such violence. And after which any such act will be followed with a "YES, but.." non-apology by the Muslims.

It's old. it was old on 9/12 and before. Go ahead and recite the awfulness of Christianity as a cover. What ever. Bad behavior deosn't excuse evil.

You guys think you and your prophet and his book of murder, thievery, heaven as conceived by purile adolescent boys, women as chattel slaves,and murder, etc. know better. So be it; you are entitled to be wrong.

But go back if it's so awful here. Stop whining and get thy self to JFK already.

As above, feckless Bush will sell us all out. KAren Hughes is a joke.

Norris Harrington
August 19, 2007 12:40 PM

Rodney boy?

Read All Comments

Post a Comment

By submitting these comments, I agree to the beliefnet.com terms of service, rules of conduct and privacy policy (the "agreements"). I understand and agree that any content I post is licensed to beliefnet.com and may be used by beliefnet.com in accordance with the agreements.



Please type the text you see in the box below to verify your post and help us prevent spam. You have a limited time to type - you may wish to compose your comment in a separate document and paste it here upon completion.

Type the characters you see in the picture above.

Advertisement

Search This Blog

About Crunchy Con

Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

feed icon Subscribe

RSS Feed

Receive updates from Crunchy Con

Advertisement

Advertisement


About Beliefnet

Our mission is to help people like you find, and walk, a spiritual path that will bring comfort, hope, clarity, strength, and happiness. More about Beliefnet.

Legal

Copyright © Beliefnet, Inc. and/or its licensors. All rights reserved. Use of this site is subject to Terms of Service and to our Privacy Policy. Constructed by Beliefnet.

Advertisement

Report as Inappropriate

You are reporting this content because it violates the Terms of Service.

All reported content is logged for investigation.