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The visionary Benedict XVI

Thursday August 30, 2007

I promised a friend I'd mail him my copy of "Without Roots: The West, Relativism, Christianity, Islam", a slim but remarkable volume composed of the 2004 correspondence between Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger and Marcello Pera, an Italian professor, secularist and president...
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Jim McCullough
August 30, 2007 10:56 AM

Amen. Amen. Amen.

And thanks from one of your many friends in the Catholic Church.

kim margosein
August 30, 2007 11:51 AM

"belief in the true no longer exists: the mission of the true is considered fundamentalism"

No fooling. Why is it Christianity's answer to Islamic fundamentalism is to go fundy themselves

Kim M

Rob Grano
August 30, 2007 12:37 PM

"Why is it Christianity's answer to Islamic fundamentalism is to go fundy themselves"

So anyone who believes in objective truth is a fundamentalist?

Rod Dreher
August 30, 2007 1:14 PM

You got it, Rob. Isn't it interesting how the Pope is more open to understanding and amicably engaging the secular mind than at least some secular fundamentalists are in engaging with religious believers?

Christine
August 30, 2007 1:19 PM

This Catholic, too, is very grateful for this marvelous post. Thanks, Rod.

Rob Grano
August 30, 2007 1:38 PM

"Isn't it interesting how the Pope is more open to understanding and amicably engaging the secular mind than at least some secular fundamentalists are in engaging with religious believers?"

Indeed. This pope is one of the most philosophically and theologically astute men on the planet, yet he's dismissed as a 'fundy.' And philosophical/theological knuckleheads like Dawkins and Hitchens are touted as authorities. Go figure.

Alicia
August 30, 2007 1:39 PM

Great post, Rod. (Benedict also impressed the late Oriana Fallaci, who was not a believer, but was convinced that her beloved Italian civilization was under attack by radical Islamists.)

I particularly liked this quote from Benedict:

"Secular people are not a rigid block. ...They are people who do not yet feel able to take the step of ecclesiastical faith with everything that such a step involves. Very often they are people who passionately seek the truth, who are pained by the lack of truth in humankind."

I agree completely that there is a potential point of contact between seekers after truth whether these are secularists or believers. As long as neither group is dominated by fundamentalists or "true believers" I think there is a definite point of contact.

I think many of the young people who become Islamists are also "seekers after truth" who have been directed into an extremist, true-believing ideology. Perhaps there is hope for connecting on the basis of the common "search for truth" and moving beyond the need to have all the answers.


Simon
August 30, 2007 4:12 PM

Perhaps there is hope for connecting on the basis of the common "search for truth" and moving beyond the need to have all the answers.

Yes, indeed. As long as one can find at least some of the answers without thereby being labelled a "fundamentalist."

After all, a search for truth is pointless if it begins with the a priori assumption that truth can never be found.

Alicia
August 30, 2007 6:11 PM

I would never make the assumption that the search for truth is futile, Simon. Only that we can never be 100% sure of our answers, and so have to allow our fellow humans the right to be wrong about their answers as well (or right about them, for that matter).

But I do think we have the obligation, at some point, to say, "This I believe" just so long as we never lose our ability to question our answers.

Kit Stolz
August 30, 2007 6:16 PM

"Life in all its fullness and freedom..." This agnostic finds that thought quite interesting, and wonders what exactly Mr. Pope means by it.

Erin Manning
August 30, 2007 6:49 PM

Rod, I also found this very interesting reading.

My question, though, is whether these "creative minorities" the Pope refers to here are actually going to iterate themselves in our times as physical and intentional communities, or whether this particular notion, not a bad one in itself, too often proves untenable due to the various issues that arise when people attempt to live deliberately apart from the wider society in such a way that they allow others to have somewhat arbitrary, and sometimes near-absolute, power over them and over their families.

Further, it seems clear that Pope Benedict envisions such "creative minorities" as groups which will exist to bring light to the world, not exist to keep the darkness at bay. Will the intentional community do this, or is this more properly the function of organizations like the Catherine of Siena Institute and similar groups?

I'm looking forward to seeing how you delve into all of this in your book.

Marina
August 31, 2007 1:24 AM

From what I understand Pope Benedict has regularly scored IQ of 186 on any evaluations throughout his life. At 80 years old he oviously is not what he once was in the grey matter categoy and we all should know quite well that intelligenc is not everything.

But it is refreshing to have such a primary genius as a strong believer; or inversely to have such a great believer having such huge intellect and reasoning ability.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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