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Chimeras' right to life

Wednesday September 26, 2007

Categories: Bioethics
Somehow I missed this one: this past summer, the Roman Catholic bishops of England said that chimeras -- the part-human, part-animal creatures Britain's mad scientists are to concoct in their labs -- have the right to life. Excerpt: But the...
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sd
September 26, 2007 6:05 PM

I agree that the prospect of creating part-human genetic chimeras is deeply troubling, quite likely inherently evil and even if not inherently evil then at least complicated enough to warrent a firm "hold" until society can sort the relevant ethical issues out.

But please tell me you don't really think that this is leading to the creation of "pig men" or anything of the like. Any genetic alteration significant enough to materially change the morphology of a creature would surely make it completely non-viable.

By the way, we already mix human DNA into other species. My understanding is that most "artificial" insulin is produced by bacteria that have had the human gene for insulin production inserted into their genomes.

Anonymous
September 26, 2007 6:25 PM

Rod, I think all this stuff has gone way too far (understatement of the year), but just for informational purposes what they're mainly talking about doing here is putting a human nucleus (with all the DNA) into an animal egg that has had the animal nucleus taken out(but which contains the mileu needed to kick-start the nucleus/egg to start behaving like an embryo). They would let the embryo grow for a few days, do all their experiments, and then throw it away. UK law would (for now, anyway) require them to destroy the embryo after 14 days. If, God forbid (not that that consideration would be stopping anyone), they implanted it and let it grow to term, almost all its DNA would be human (a tiny proportion of DNA would be from the mitochondria of the egg). Thus, it wouldn't look (or talk) like Porky Pig.

The reason they're doing this is because there is a shortage of human egg donors--for some reason, women aren't just lining up to be pumped full of hormones, go under anesthesia, have a laparascope shoved through their belly button, all for the benefit of a biotech company, er, ahem, for humanity.

R.

John E.
September 26, 2007 7:02 PM

I really appreciate that the first two posts were from folks who actually explained the science of what is happening here.

Lisa
September 26, 2007 8:57 PM

Not that I want them to have done this, but what have been the results of intraspecies (intragenus, intrafamily, intraorder) nuclear transfer?

Gene insertion in bacteria doesn't bother me a bit morally; the things mutate like...bacteria, anyway. Gene insertion in animals does - spider genes in sheep so that sheep can produce silk protein in their milk, for instance.

Wholesale nuclear transfer and chimera creation give me the willies. When it comes doing it to humans, the word is "abomination."

Yet, to people to whom it is not abomination, you cannot prove that it is, any more than you could prove that incest is.

Max Schadenfreude
September 26, 2007 10:57 PM

I can hear the mom now, "CLEAN YOUR ROOM! This place is a P-I-G PIG-STY!

Jim
September 27, 2007 12:08 PM

I consider myself a scientist (well, of the mathematical/computer bent), and I am scared by even the prospect of gene insertion in bacteria, in the sense that there has to be the potential for an "oops" here or there. What terrible disease could be inadvertently created by an unfortunate combination of genetic material. My schooling in biology is high-school level, circa 1980, but I know over and over from my own work and that of fellow software engineers that we are quite capable of spectacular "oops" moments.

Until we have the potential to "back up" this planet and hit the restore button, as much as I admire the outcomes of many uses of biotechnology, I fear our abilities will outpace our wisdom and ethics.

Elisa
September 27, 2007 3:11 PM

I think what it comes down to is that if you are in doubt whether something is human nor not, err on the side of caution. Creating these chimeras is horrible, but once created, they must be treated with human dignity in case they are.

Lorenz
September 27, 2007 4:09 PM

If this is what society is coming to, perhaps an Islamic takeover would not be such a bad thing.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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