I'm still noodling over my next book, in which I want to focus on a few various communities where ordinary people are trying to live out a life of virtue in community. If I get a contract for the book,...
Rod,
Perhaps you could get her in contact with J.H. Kunstler. Since he's involved with the New Urbanism movement, he may know of a firm located up that way or at least someone who can help with the design.
Richard Barrett
September 4, 2007 7:21 AM
I thought they were trying to plant new missions?
Christ J. Kamages (http://www.cjkdesign.com/) is The Man where this kind of planning for Orthodox churches is concerned. All Saints in Bloomington, IN has ~24 acres and we're asking a similar set of questions (although no one here is discussing becoming the kind of intentional community St. John is); we're a few years yet from really being able to make use of what he can offer, but he came and talked to us about a year and a half ago, and he knows what he's talking about. Our first steps for now are doing things that don't require that kind of planning--we're almost done with our cemetery, for example.
The question I've always asked at All Saints (and it's a question I posed to Fr. Marc, too, when I met him) is--why would a skete not be a good use of at least some of the land? In principle, nobody ever seems to think that's a bad idea, but the practical question always seems to be, "Okay, from where do we get the monks?" The thing about the Antiochian Archdiocese is that there aren't exactly hundreds prospective monastics beating down their doors--but is this a question of "if you build it, they will come?"
Richard
harvey lacey
September 4, 2007 8:07 AM
Hmmmmm, of my many crosses, probably one of the heaviest of those is being an inventor. Last June my wife worked with a church group out of Shreveport working for the Navajos in northern Arizona. My wife told me about the Navajo Hogans and how neat they were.
I went online to the Navajo site and found out they are manufacturing a proprietary lightweight concrete block using fly ash from some power plants.
One thought led to another and the next thing you know I'd designed a modern version of the Hogan that could be built economically with minimal construction experience.
My idea involved using their light weight concrete blocks for the walls. I designed a fireplace/cooking center that was the structural support for the metal framed metal roof.
I understand that a forty foot diameter round house with a central kitchen area isn't part and parcel of the 3-2-2 with game room that seems to be the American dream these days. But when we look at the strength of the Native American family unit compared to our own it might be worth looking at.
Will
September 4, 2007 9:20 AM
Some of the best architects in the country have already done most of the work. Please see:
Habitat Congress Building America:
VERY COLD CLIMATE CASE STUDY
for Juneau, Alaska
www.buildingamerica.gov
Sarah in Maryland
September 4, 2007 12:29 PM
Talk to that person who developed the Katrina Cottage. Maybe she can desgin the "Eagle River Cottage" next :-) I think the idea behind the Katrina Cottage is brilliant. I love how simple it is, too! Charming, small, affordable... Were more architects like this one.
Adam Greenwood
September 4, 2007 1:43 PM
I hope you can do this book. I'm no crunchy con, nor even a tradcon, as exemplified by its practitioners, but a book that looked into some communitarian religious experiments would be of great interest to me.
Mary
September 4, 2007 2:07 PM
www.georgeholtdesign.com
George Holt is a designer of homes and whole neighborhoods. His architectural partner is Andrew Gould, an Orthodox Christian, who has also designed several Orthodox Churches in the Southeast, including his own parish of Holy Ascension (which Rod should be familiar with from the OCA-DOS website updates).
Mary
Luci
September 5, 2007 1:18 PM
I doubt this is what the folks in Alaska are looking for, but we visited a B&B at this community a few months ago. It was interesting--- to us, it seemed to try create a forced sense of community. The philosophy was very into maintaining green space. And it really has succeeded there- it's minutes from downtown Atlanta, but it looks as if you're in the absolute middle of po-dunk junction! Link is as follows minus the spaces.
http: //www. serenbecommunity.com /home.html
Thanks,
Luci
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Rod,
Perhaps you could get her in contact with J.H. Kunstler. Since he's involved with the New Urbanism movement, he may know of a firm located up that way or at least someone who can help with the design.
I thought they were trying to plant new missions?
Christ J. Kamages (http://www.cjkdesign.com/) is The Man where this kind of planning for Orthodox churches is concerned. All Saints in Bloomington, IN has ~24 acres and we're asking a similar set of questions (although no one here is discussing becoming the kind of intentional community St. John is); we're a few years yet from really being able to make use of what he can offer, but he came and talked to us about a year and a half ago, and he knows what he's talking about. Our first steps for now are doing things that don't require that kind of planning--we're almost done with our cemetery, for example.
The question I've always asked at All Saints (and it's a question I posed to Fr. Marc, too, when I met him) is--why would a skete not be a good use of at least some of the land? In principle, nobody ever seems to think that's a bad idea, but the practical question always seems to be, "Okay, from where do we get the monks?" The thing about the Antiochian Archdiocese is that there aren't exactly hundreds prospective monastics beating down their doors--but is this a question of "if you build it, they will come?"
Richard
Hmmmmm, of my many crosses, probably one of the heaviest of those is being an inventor. Last June my wife worked with a church group out of Shreveport working for the Navajos in northern Arizona. My wife told me about the Navajo Hogans and how neat they were.
I went online to the Navajo site and found out they are manufacturing a proprietary lightweight concrete block using fly ash from some power plants.
One thought led to another and the next thing you know I'd designed a modern version of the Hogan that could be built economically with minimal construction experience.
My idea involved using their light weight concrete blocks for the walls. I designed a fireplace/cooking center that was the structural support for the metal framed metal roof.
I understand that a forty foot diameter round house with a central kitchen area isn't part and parcel of the 3-2-2 with game room that seems to be the American dream these days. But when we look at the strength of the Native American family unit compared to our own it might be worth looking at.
Some of the best architects in the country have already done most of the work. Please see:
Habitat Congress Building America:
VERY COLD CLIMATE CASE STUDY
for Juneau, Alaska
www.buildingamerica.gov
Talk to that person who developed the Katrina Cottage. Maybe she can desgin the "Eagle River Cottage" next :-) I think the idea behind the Katrina Cottage is brilliant. I love how simple it is, too! Charming, small, affordable... Were more architects like this one.
I hope you can do this book. I'm no crunchy con, nor even a tradcon, as exemplified by its practitioners, but a book that looked into some communitarian religious experiments would be of great interest to me.
www.georgeholtdesign.com
George Holt is a designer of homes and whole neighborhoods. His architectural partner is Andrew Gould, an Orthodox Christian, who has also designed several Orthodox Churches in the Southeast, including his own parish of Holy Ascension (which Rod should be familiar with from the OCA-DOS website updates).
Mary
I doubt this is what the folks in Alaska are looking for, but we visited a B&B at this community a few months ago. It was interesting--- to us, it seemed to try create a forced sense of community. The philosophy was very into maintaining green space. And it really has succeeded there- it's minutes from downtown Atlanta, but it looks as if you're in the absolute middle of po-dunk junction! Link is as follows minus the spaces.
http: //www. serenbecommunity.com /home.html
Thanks,
Luci
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