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RIP, Alfred Peet and Michael Jackson

Monday September 3, 2007

Categories: Culture
Foodies among us will note with sadness the passing of two great men of good eating: Alfred Peet and Michael Jackson. Peet was the Dutch emigre who saved America from Maxwell House. From the NYT obit: “He was the guru...
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David J. White
September 3, 2007 12:06 PM

I'm afraid I like Maxwell House, Folgers, et al. I think coffee snobbery is as ridiculous as bottled-water snobbery.

Charles Cosimano
September 3, 2007 1:11 PM

Well, as someone who hates coffee and can no longer drink beer, they really don't matter very much but it is sad when people die, even if they always end up doing it.

Rod Dreher
September 3, 2007 2:22 PM

David J., there's no sin in preferring Folgers to the more boutique roasts, but there really is a marked qualitative difference between supermarket canned coffee and the better stuff. I drink Folgers at my office because that's on offer, but it tastes inferior. Similarly, there is a qualitative difference between mass-produced supermarket beer, and the stuff your local microbrewery makes. It's not a matter of baseless class prejudice to make that observation, even as one asserts one's right to enjoy the proletarian stuff.

On water, though, I think you have a point. I've never been able to discern any significant taste difference between the bottled stuff and tap water, at least in most places I've lived.

John E.
September 3, 2007 3:14 PM

Oh wow, I started homebrewing working from Jackson's recipes.

David J. White
September 3, 2007 3:56 PM

Rod,

When I was in high school I was drinking ten cups a day on some days, and I decided to try to cut down. I figured that at least part of my coffee addiction was simply the pacifier addiction -- holding a cup in my hand and taking sips from it. So I replaced part of my coffee consumption with cups of hot water -- and it worked. Nowadays I don't drink quite so much coffee (or any hot water), but I really do prefer the cheap stuff. What I'm after, esp. in the morning, is a cup of hot brown stuff with caffeine in it, and that's pretty much it.

For someone who really likes to eat, as I do, I'm afraid I have no real appreciation of so-called "good" food, wine, coffee, etc. I attribute part of it to the fact that I simply don't seem to have a very sensitive sense of smell, so all too often I'm afraid I really can't taste the difference. And, to be honest, I'm sure a good deal of it is just reverse snobbery on my part. I like seeing the look of shock on people's faces when I tell them that I would sell my mother to the Arabs for a sack of White Castle hamburgers. ;-) (But I really like the burgers, too.)

When my parents were first married, my mother (so she tells me) tried to be somewhat adventurous in the kitchen and make interesting things. After a while, she says, my father told her that, while he appreciated the fact that she was willing to make the effort, she might as well not bother, because he's a meatloaf-and-mashed-potatoes kind of guy. So my mother became the queen of opening cans and defrosting, and that's what I grew up with. And, well, what can I say, I am my father's son. ;-)

One of the big adjustments I have had to make since moving to Texas three years ago is that fact that just about everything is, to my tastebuds, extremely overspiced. I grew up with bland food, and that's what I like. I tell people that when I was growing up, "spicy" meant that my mother looked at the pepper shaker when she was cooking. ;-) Ordinary black pepper was a rare and exotic spice my mother's kitchen. In fact, to this day, my favorite chili is my mother's. It contains *no* chili powder -- it's essentially ground-beef-and-bean soup.

paagle
September 3, 2007 3:57 PM

Michael Jackson was also an excellent writer on Scotch whiskey. (One of?) Mr. Jackson's book on single malts was an essential component of my early investigations into Scotch. I toasted his memory with a glass of Talisker last Friday.

mik_infidelos
September 3, 2007 4:00 PM

Did you try Peet's coffee resently?
Coffee served in Peet's coffee shops tastes like pee with lots of acid.

10 years ago Peet's coffee was quite different.
In general Starbucks and Peet's coffee is vastly inferiour to coffee in a decent French or Itallian backery/coffee shop (shops in US of course).
Even McDonalds/Burger King coffee is better than Peet's.

Coffee served in most of Europe is much better than Starbcks/Peet's pee.

Rod Dreher
September 3, 2007 4:08 PM

I've never had Peet's coffee; I was just paying homage to his catalyst role in a beneficial cultural revolution. Frankly, I don't much like Starbucks, which is overroasted.

You know who has spectacular coffee? Krispy Kreme. I seem to recall that Dunkin Donuts coffee is superlative as well. But I recently had some McDonalds coffee on a long roadtrip, and it was undrinkable.

David J., my condolences on the taste bud thing. I have a touch of a neurological affliction called Sensory Processing Disorder, the one upside to which is that it gives me an acute sense of taste and smell. I can taste things in wine that most people can't, not because I have an educated palate, but because my wiring is screwed up. The downside of that particular manifestation of the condition is that I get real queasy real fast in the presence of unpleasant odors.

Zero-Equals-Infinity
September 3, 2007 4:39 PM

It could be worse Rod. What if you also had a gastro-intestinal disorder that resulted in wafters that could knock a buzzard off a shit-wagon at 100 paces. Be thankful, be very thankful.

James Kabala
September 3, 2007 4:46 PM

When I was a kid and first encountered the term "microbrewery" in the newspaper, I thought it meant they made the beer in extra-small cans.:)

SiliconValleySteve
September 4, 2007 12:08 PM

I drank my first good coffee at Peets in North Berkeley. It began a life-long addiction and love affair. Peets is now a public company but mostly follows in the tradition of Alfred Peet. I now buy my beans from a gal who roasts them in her shop in my neighborhood. I like the shop but the beans are are good but not great. Every so often one of my wife's students gift her with a Peets card and we indulge. Major Dick's blend is one of life's small pleasures.

elizabeth
September 4, 2007 1:52 PM

I hail from Minnesota, where a local commedienne once used this joke in her routine: "I've been married so long I'm on my second bottle of Tabasco Sauce." Needless to say, when she performed in Louisiana that fell flat. My mom had the same spice jars, with the same spices, in our kitchen for my entire life.

On coffee, many boomers got sent to Europe for a year during college, where we were exposed to wonderful coffee. For me, the search for coffee beans began after returning to Folger's land here in the Midwest. To this day, the smell of a freshly-opened can of Folger's makes me slightly nauseated - it smells rancid to my dainty nose.

Well done, Mr. Peets! Thank you for bringing coffee-knowledge to our backward country.

David J. White
September 4, 2007 6:13 PM

Hmm, I think the only think that smells better to me than a freshly-opened can of Folgers is a freshly-opened jar of Skippy peanut butter! ;-)

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