Crunchy Con

Media bias

Wednesday October 10, 2007

Categories: Media
You may remember my September 9 column about the shocking Muslim Brotherhood strategy document revealed in the Holy Land Foundation trial. The memo outlined the powerful international organization's long-term plan to establish itself in civil society through a variety of...
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I_Like_Dragyn
October 10, 2007 3:42 PM

I just have a question. Let us suppose that they are bringing immigrants over here for the purpose to create a large enough group to influence government in such a way that they can impose Sharia Law upon us. Let us suppose that they are overhauling conversion techniques to have people convert to Islam so that they will eventually have a large enough group to democratically impose Sharia Law. If they are doing it legally, and then succeed in creating a Sharia Law through a popular vote (Obviously it would take generations to do so...), how can one stop them, if they are doing it simply through creating a majority, or at least a large enough plurality to override our own fighting factions?

Marian Neudel
October 10, 2007 3:50 PM

"If they are doing it legally, and then succeed in creating a Sharia Law through a popular vote..., how can one stop them, if they are doing it simply through creating a majority?"

Oh, that's simple. Just change the rules on them. Same way the Illinois State Legislature changed its rules on ratifying a constitutional amendment when the ERA came up in the '70s, and changed them back again ten years later when the danger was over. Of course, that would be un-American, but who cares?

Will
October 10, 2007 4:06 PM

By the way, one of the top five newspapers in the US commissioned an op-ed from me about the document after my initial column, and set it for publication -- but spiked it at the last minute, without explanation.

One possible explanation is that you're hanging way to much hope on a single document, a single, high-level document that doesn't even advocate anything illegal or violent.

Maybe this newspaper wanted something a little more balanced, something that at least mentions Israel's occupation of Palestine. Your anti-Muslim bias is too strong for serious journalism. And charges of political correctness work both ways. The trial of the HLF is considered a sweetheart gift to Israel by most Muslims.

Rod Dreher
October 10, 2007 4:35 PM

The Protocols are a proven forgery. The authenticity of this document is not in dispute, not even by the Muslims on trial. I realize you have no interest in accuracy on this matter, Kim, but really, do try to keep up.

Daniel
October 10, 2007 4:47 PM

The press is skeptical of the government's case in the HLF trial--as they should be--and having been led astray by the government's crack-pot theories in the past, they have reason to be suspicious. In the end, it's possible that your single-minded fascination with the trial and the document may prove to be right. But I think most people believe that this is a show-trial and that the government's reliance on the Muslim Brotherhood document is as specious and confused as its prosecution of people in Gitmo and its justification for torture. The administration has zero credibility on these matters, sadly, and crack-pot theories based on questionable readings of the document don't really go far in most newsrooms.

This isn't about political correctness--which is an embarrassingly shallow allegation--but sincere skepticism about the government's approach to terrorism. Until someone with a shred of credibility and objectivity takes this seriously, the press is correct to avoid falling for more government spin on this issue.

Lynn
October 10, 2007 6:31 PM

Okay, Mr. Dreher, why don't you give it up already? I mean, treason is so old fashioned! And beside, it’s the Bush administration . . . Isn’t EVERYONE plotting treason at this point? . . .(And it’s not like an islamic supremacist would ever really HURT anybody, right?)


Cleveland
October 10, 2007 8:27 PM

"And it's not being ignored for lack of knowledge or evidence. It's for lack of caring. It's for reasons of political correctness." Rod

If you ever wondered how Socialists took control of Germany and Russia, and is eating away at Canada, Briton and the West, just re-read the above comments, except for Lynn's.


Larry Parker
October 10, 2007 11:13 PM

Why does lack of caring have to be "political correctness"?

Couldn't it just be poor news judgment or, at worst, stupidity?

Larry Parker
October 10, 2007 11:16 PM

Lynn:

It's conservatives who have cheapened "treason," not liberals. And you don't have to go to Gitmo or Abu Ghraib to see this.

You don't even have to leave this Web site. Go to the Bnet discussion boards and see how many times even tentative support for liberal ideas is met with "treason" or "traitor" cries by conservative posters.

I believe in the early 1950s this was called McCarthyism.

Daniel
October 10, 2007 11:41 PM

"Why does lack of caring have to be "political correctness"?"

Because calling something PC is the catch-all conservative answer to explain most things. It's the easy, kneejerk answer that allows conservatives to avoid really digging into why something is happening. Like alleging media bias, it's a rote response.

rebeccat
October 10, 2007 11:41 PM

Unfortunately, I think Daniel has a point. The press doesn't like Bush anyways and this adminstration has shown itself to be mind bogglingly incompetant and untrustworthy. I will be SO glad come January 2009 when someone new comes into office. I really hope it's not one of the democrats, but regardless who it is, it will do our country a world of good to get Bush out of office. The hatred people have for him and complete lack of trust people have in our government is skewing everything. It's hard to even read a paper most days because everything is filtered through hatred and lack of trust in anything the government says or does. If someone else were in office or Bush had handled anything at all competently in the last 7 years, this might be the story it ought to be. I really do take it to be a measure of how much damage this administration has done to our government and society.

Scott in PA
October 11, 2007 7:09 AM

This document is argument alone for declaring a moratorium on Muslim immigration.

But it won’t happen because Americans cannot think critically about discrimination and are brainwashed into believing that all discrimination is irrational.

Americans also don’t understand risk. Some risks are unacceptable even though they are very small. What they believe about the majority ('Most Muslims are good people' yada yada) is irrelevant if the minority is unacceptably evil and dangerous.

Rob Grano
October 11, 2007 7:37 AM

"But it won’t happen because Americans cannot think critically about discrimination and are brainwashed into believing that all discrimination is irrational."

Boy, you said a mouthful there, Scott. As Burke, Kirk, and others have amply demonstrated, prejudice rightly understood is a good thing.

Will
October 11, 2007 10:10 AM

But it won’t happen because Americans cannot think critically about discrimination and are brainwashed into believing that all discrimination is irrational.

This is truly sad. After all this country has been through, from the civil war, womens' suffrage, the civil rights movement, etc., you describe Americans as "brainwashed."

How lucky we are to have neo-McCarthyites like Scott and Rob to help with the deprogramming.

Chris
October 11, 2007 10:38 AM

Will, Scott is saying that not all discrimination is bad or irrational. If a child molester moves next door, I'm going to make sure my daughter stays away from him. Would you let your kids be around him? Maybe he is reformed. Are you going to take that chance? In effect, his past behavior as a participant in a particular group, child molesters, causes me to discriminate against him, my child will have nothing to do with him and I'm going to watch him closely. Honestly, he shouldn't be allowed back in the general population due to the recidivism rate of child molesters.

Why did you call Scott a neo-McCarthyite? He hasn't attempt to suppress your views, called you names, or labeled you in some manner as you just did to him without proof.

Will
October 11, 2007 10:58 AM

Why did you call Scott a neo-McCarthyite?

Do you read his comments? In the last one alone he advocated a moratorium on Muslim immigration, made blanket statements that Americans are brainwashed and cannot think critically. In past comments follow the same pattern.

Like Rod, Scot and Rob are convinced that Muslims are to the United States what communism was in the 50s and 60s - a one size fits all boogie man for all your xenophobic needs.

I'm still waiting for one of these good Christian men to mention the illegal occuption of Palestine in any of thier anti-Muslim screeds.

Donna in Dallas
October 11, 2007 10:59 AM

Bush hatred is NOT an excuse for the media failing to report the facts of this story and NOTHING will change about that failure to report these facts when a new president takes up residence in the White House. Their ignoring this story is purposeful and is about the authority issues that many in the press, the legal system and in some government quarters have where they would rather trust terrorists than trust the government. It is a Sixties mindset that has refused to mature.

It was also a major card played in the defense of the HLF defendants, 'You aren't going to trust the government, are you?' mewed Nancy Hollander appealing to the authority issues of the jurors rather than their common sense about the evidence.

Thanks to Dreher for continuing to 'hold the fort' at the Dallas Morning News on these critical issues that need to see the light of day in the public domain.

Donna in Dallas
October 11, 2007 11:01 AM

Bush hatred is NOT an excuse for the media failing to report the facts of this story and NOTHING will change about that failure to report these facts when a new president takes up residence in the White House. Their ignoring this story is purposeful and is about the authority issues that many in the press, the legal system and in some government quarters have where they would rather trust terrorists than trust the government. It is a Sixties mindset that has refused to mature.

It was also a major card played in the defense of the HLF defendants, 'You aren't going to trust the government, are you?' mewed Nancy Hollander appealing to the authority issues of the jurors rather than their common sense about the evidence.

Thanks to Dreher for continuing to 'hold the fort' at the Dallas Morning News on these critical issues that need to see the light of day in the public domain.

Donna in Dallas
October 11, 2007 11:06 AM

Bush hatred is NOT an excuse for the media failing to report the facts of this story and NOTHING will change about that failure to report these facts when a new president takes up residence in the White House. Their ignoring this story is purposeful and is about the authority issues that many in the press, the legal system and in some government quarters have where they would rather trust terrorists than trust the government. It is a Sixties mindset that has refused to mature.

It was also a major card played in the defense of the HLF defendants, 'You aren't going to trust the government, are you?' mewed Nancy Hollander appealing to the authority issues of the jurors rather than their common sense about the evidence.

Thanks to Dreher for continuing to 'hold the fort' at the Dallas Morning News on these critical issues that need to see the light of day in the public domain.

Dale Price
October 11, 2007 11:51 AM

I don't think it's a PC agenda so much as a worldview problem combined with paternalism and basic laziness.

Most journalism grads are liberal in the same way most business grads are conservative. That's the worldview--an instinctive inclination to stand up for the little guy against an "overzealous" criminal prosecution.

Toss in the paternalism: I think a lot of them actually believe that even mentioning the Muslim angle will lead to pogroms.

Here's where I'm going to veer off course a little bit and look at the consequences of it. Of course, the paternalism has the miserable side effect of shutting off a good deal of the external pressure for the Muslim community to address its real problems, reform and assimilate. This leads to the infantilization of too much of the Muslim community and the cultivation of a victim mentality and the repeated playing of the fraying "Islamophobia" card.

This, of course, has the ironic effect of poisoning an increasing number of the non-Muslim population against Muslims. Sorry, but the Muslims don't have the moral authority or genuinely aggrieved status of, say, American Indians or black Americans. Muslims can't claim any such analogy to those groups or even Latinos, who have also been subject to significant, if lesser, discrimination.

All of this leads to increasing friction and the decay in regard for Muslims in this country, as the polls show. And I'm afraid that it's only going to get worse with time.

To use an analogy: nobody pretended that there wasn't a massive Italian component to organized crime in America, reporting busts without using surnames or trying to spin the fact that some of the suspects were from Palermo and others from Messina made them from "diverse [and otherwise unspecified] backgrounds."

Franklin Evans
October 11, 2007 12:14 PM

The Bush administration bears the first-cause responsibility for its egregious secrecy in all of its dealings with the press on this and other issues. Why should a government source be trusted, if the reasonable assumption is either it is directly associated with the administration and is deliberately withholding information, or it is dependent on information from the administration and simply not getting it?

Having and keeping secrets is a critical aspect of government, I never dispute that. The Bush years show how this necessity can be abused.

Will
October 11, 2007 12:38 PM

Look, lots of important stories receive little or no attention. But I am convinced this is one of the biggest. And it's not being ignored for lack of knowledge or evidence. It's for lack of caring. It's for reasons of political correctness.

The more I think about this, the more I consider that Rod could be right about the PC component, even if he's right in a way he doesn't want to consider.

Why isn't the HLF trial more widely covered if it's so important? And I do agree that it's an important trial. Could it be that the state of Israel stands to lose more with negative press on this trial? No one really wants to discuss Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine, no one really wants to talk about how Israeli secret agents testify anonymously in the trial, and these secret agents present 'evidence'that was gathered by Israeli soldiers from houses that were destroyed in occupied territories by Israeli ordnance.

But the main reason the HLF trial and the "shocking" MB document are being "ignored" as Rod puts it, is because too many people in the media don't want Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine to get the media coverage it really deserves.

Any serious investigation of this MB document and the trial that brought it to light would require a serious investigation of Israel's occupation of Palestine and how this occuption helps fan the flames of hatred of Muslims and Jews as well as Christians.

Rob Grano
October 11, 2007 12:41 PM

"Like Rod, Scot and Rob are convinced that Muslims are to the United States what communism was in the 50s and 60s - a one size fits all boogie man for all your xenophobic needs."

As usual, Will, you have no idea what you're talking about. I won't speak for Rod and Scott, but I'm in no way xenophobic. I'm all for immigration provided it's legal (both sides of my family are from early 20th century immigrant stock). Many Muslims, however, have shown themselves to be untrustworthy, and I'd argue that they need to be screened more carefully than others when they enter the country. Call this profiling if you'd like. If men in tartan kilts started blowing things up and hijacking planes, I'd say the same thing about Scotsmen.

Cleveland
October 12, 2007 2:15 PM

American patriots versus American hatriots. The battle has been going on for well over half a century, but the hatriots have gained powerful, incestuous allies: the Democrat Party base; most of the major media; a growing Western Socialism; almost all of the homosexual movement; most of the atheist movement; the academy to a great extent; and, only when it suits their purpose, the Islamists.

Still, it's only fifty-fifty that the hatriots will win in 2008.

"And an Angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm".

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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