Derb is incensed that John Gibbons, the adult son of the British subject now imprisoned in Sudan for calling a teddy bear Muhammad, is all knotted up over the possibility that the incident will make people think bad things about Muslims. Saith Derb:
No, that would never do, would it, John? They lock up your Mum in a filthy rat-infested dungeon for what was obviously an honest mistake, and your biggest fear is that someone will feel resentment towards them. You know my biggest fear, John? My biggest fear is, that there are enough whimpering poltroons like yourself in the Western world to turn our civilization to mush, the way political correctness has turned your brain to mush.

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Sorry, Will, my reply is being "held for approval."
On matters of faith or morals, no one. So, Will, why hasn't the Pope said the Iraq war is morally unjust? Point, game, match.
Before you start backslapping yourself, Cleveland, John Paul II came out against the invasion of Iraq before it started. And I'm not even a Catholic.
Now I understand why so many of your posts are held for approval.
Sorry, again, Will, my reply is being held for approval.
Cleveland,
It's obvious you think the war and/or Bush is morally just. I don't. The Pope, Wendell Berry, Jim Wallis, scads of Methodist bishops, a portion of our own intelligence community, and millions upon millions of ordinary citizens around the world believed the preemptive war was morally unjust then. Nothing has changed my mind, even if you've convinced yourself the Pope has done a 180 and endorses the war.
So, to your continued consternation, I declare myself competent to judge this purely elective, preemptive war and subsequent occupation morally unjust, illegal and criminal. And I find myself in excellent, distinguished company.
So spare yourself the next message approval cycle.
"The Pope...believed the preemptive war was morally unjust ....you've convinced yourself the Pope has done a 180 and endorses the war." Will
Either give me sources for those two absurd statements, or quit wasting my time. I thought you wanted an honest debate.
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